Chicago freezes Teslas out!

[PMCErnie]

“A surge of stranded electric vehicles, predominantly Tesla cars, has overtaken the Oak Brook Supercharger station in Chicago, as a severe cold snap renders many EVs powerless and immobile.”

'A Bunch of Dead Robots:' Frigid Chicago Temps Turn EV Charging Stations into 'Car Graveyards'

A surge of stranded electric vehicles, predominantly Tesla cars, has overtaken the Oak Brook Supercharger station in Chicago, as a severe cold snap renders many EVs powerless and immobile.

www.breitbart.com

 

[steveinarizona]

I get it. You don't like EVs. So stick to your dinosaur remains powered vehicle and leave us alone!

 

[Husky]

Breitbart??

 

[Alfer]

I find it a bit amusing to see how the EV world can't hold up to weather issues like this and power outages etc.

I'll stick with "dino" car for many years until we have the tech and infrastructure AND enough power (dino generated!) to handle and all EV world.

 

[PMCErnie]

I get it. You don't like EVs. So stick to your dinosaur remains powered vehicle and leave us alone!

Who is us? We are all members here with opinions. Post away, but don’t try to muzzle anybody.

 

[EdP]

“A surge of stranded electric vehicles, predominantly Tesla cars, has overtaken the Oak Brook Supercharger station in Chicago, as a severe cold snap renders many EVs powerless and immobile.”

'A Bunch of Dead Robots:' Frigid Chicago Temps Turn EV Charging Stations into 'Car Graveyards'

A surge of stranded electric vehicles, predominantly Tesla cars, has overtaken the Oak Brook Supercharger station in Chicago, as a severe cold snap renders many EVs powerless and immobile.

www.breitbart.com

Would be interesting to find out how much is out of owner ignorance. AFAIK, you do have to pre-condition the battery in very cold.

Considering the source, they write for headlines and attention more than researching actual facts.

 

[Trixie86]

Honor the dinosaur, they gave their lives for us.

 

[Alfer]

Would be interesting to find out how much is out of owner ignorance. AFAIK, you do have to pre-condition the battery in very cold.

Considering the source, they write for headlines and attention more than researching actual facts.

So anyone who reports about this mess that actually happened is biased?

Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here'

Many Chicago-area Tesla owners were visibly frustrated on Monday after their electric vehicles failed to charge amid freezing temperatures.

www.foxbusiness.com

EV drivers struggle to keep batteries charged amid winter freeze

CHICAGO — The winter freeze is impacting residents across Chicagoland, but some EV drivers are facing an additional handful of problems as they deal with long lines at charging stations and reduced…

wgntv.com

 

[Husky]

I find it a bit amusing to see how the EV world can't hold up to weather issues like this and power outages etc.

I'll stick with "dino" car for many years until we have the tech and infrastructure AND enough power (dino generated!) to handle and all EV world.

I'll stick with my horse. These horseless carriages are just a noisy, unreliable flash in the pan. Sure.

 

[PMCErnie]

Sources?

“I've been here for over five hours at this point, and I still have not gotten to charge my car," said Tesla driver Brandon Welbourne. "A charge that should take 45 minutes is taking two hours."

Tesla owners run into battery charging trouble in Chicago's bitter cold

Tesla advises owners to keep the charge level above 20 percent during bitter cold weather.

www.cbsnews.com

Electric vehicle owners face huge challenges amid Chicago cold snap

It’s been years since the city of Chicago has had a prolonged period of cold weather like this, and some residents are learning the hard way that electric vehicles have difficult coping with the frigid conditions too.

www.nbcchicago.com

'Don't Buy a Tesla': Chicago's EV Drivers Struggle With Sub-Zero Temperatures

Below-freezing temperatures are rapidly draining EV batteries across Chicago, meaning more tows and long lines to charge.

www.pcmag.com

EV drivers struggle to keep batteries charged amid winter freeze

CHICAGO — The winter freeze is impacting residents across Chicagoland, but some EV drivers are facing an additional handful of problems as they deal with long lines at charging stations and reduced…

wgntv.com

Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here' | Fox Business

Many Chicago-area Tesla owners were visibly frustrated on Monday after their electric vehicles failed to charge amid freezing temperatures.

www.foxbusiness.com

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/16/1224913698/teslas-chicago-charging-extreme-cold

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[Husky]

I don't understand the love for "Dino generated" energy, since it's slowly making our planet un-inhabitable. The US spent nearly $100 Billion dollars in recovering from climate related disasters in 2023 alone.
The fact is that 40% of our electricity is now being generated by non-fossil sources, with wind and solar increasing rapidly. Why on earth would this not be considered a good thing?

 

[Alfer]

I don't understand the love for "Dino generated" energy, since it's slowly making our planet un-inhabitable. The US spent nearly $100 Billion dollars in recovering from climate related disasters in 2023 alone.
The fact is that 40% of our electricity is now being generated by non-fossil sources, with wind and solar increasing rapidly. Why on earth would this not be considered a good thing?

Source?

This Earth we live on is 4.5 billion years old and chugging along just fine. The whole "climate change" (world is ending soon!) all because of mankind is a total farce IMO. Every year for decades someone says "world will freeze over in 10 years!" or "World is going to melt!" and none of it rings true. It's all just a money grab for a certain sect of folks who love to fear monger.

I have nothing against EV's but they are very impractical in this day and age.

 

[EdP]

So anyone who reports about this mess that actually happened is biased?

Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here'

Many Chicago-area Tesla owners were visibly frustrated on Monday after their electric vehicles failed to charge amid freezing temperatures.

www.foxbusiness.com

EV drivers struggle to keep batteries charged amid winter freeze

CHICAGO — The winter freeze is impacting residents across Chicagoland, but some EV drivers are facing an additional handful of problems as they deal with long lines at charging stations and reduced…

wgntv.com

I didn't say anyone. Brietbart often is though so I have skepticism with them. Again, I question how much is design, how much is driver lack of knowledge. Did they report how many ICE cars had dean batteries? That happens every cold snap.

 

[EdP]

Source?

This Earth we live on is 4.5 billion years old and chugging along just fine. The whole "climate change" (world is ending soon!) all because of mankind is a total farce IMO. Every year for decades someone says "world will freeze over in 10 years!" or "World is going to melt!" and none of it rings true. It's all just a money grab for a certain sect of folks who love to fear monger.

I have nothing against EV's but they are very impractical in this day and age.

At some point, the earth will run out of oil. This is a good time to prepare for it, be in 40 or 60 years from now. It is a finite material. Can you imagine jumping into this when there is a real shortage?

As for global warming, burning millions of tons of fossil fuels every day over the past 100 years would not be much affect.

 

[Husky]

I'm very sorry to hear that you deny the science that virtually all climatologists and other scientists agree on. There are thousands of sources where you can educate yourself. Not to mention the fact that it's gotten pretty obvious for all to see and experience. We see the effects of global climate change all around the world on a daily basis.
I'm not talking about "we're all going to die in the next ten years", and the scientists aren't either, but we are at a tipping point where major changes are becoming irreversible. The conditions that make life as we know it on this planet are in a delicate balance. Once you upset it, there are positive feedback effects which caused things to deteriorate rapidly.
Does it really seem reasonable to you that we humans can put tens of Billions of metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, year after year, with no serious effect? Our emissions have ramped up dramatically in the last few decades. This whole "the planet is 4.5 billion years old" argument is silly and easily addressed. The industrial age only began about 200 years ago. That represents just 0.0044% of the life of the planet. Our annual global emissions in 2023 are about 100 times higher than they were in the early 1800s.
Maybe you don't believe in science. It's incredibly ignorant and selfish to dismiss it, or not be concerned about it because you don't think it will effect you in the years you have left on this earth.

 

[GeeVee7T]

I was similarly skeptical when Breitbart was the source but I did a cursory fact-check against a number of more "conventional" sources, and as has already been posted above, seems legit.

One article had this however, which addressed what @EdP mentioned and made me chuckle out loud:

"Like any new technology, there’s a learning curve for people,” Bilek told WFLD.

The problem is, the preconditioning feature needs power to operate and if the car is sapped out, it isn’t going to work.

Indeed, Mr. Bilek. The “learning curve” should find drivers “learning” that an EV doesn’t work in a Chicago winter.

 

[PMCErnie]

I didn't say anyone. Brietbart often is though so I have skepticism with them. Again, I question how much is design, how much is driver lack of knowledge. Did they report how many ICE cars had dean batteries? That happens every cold snap.

One huge problem is that when you pull into an EV charging station it can be a raucous free for all to plug in. At best it can be a polite LONG WAIT. I, for one, wouldn’t want to be at the mercy of an EV charger in downtown Chicago in the depth of endless winter.

 

[Alfer]

Until I can charge a car to full in under 10 minutes like I can with a "dino car", and until I can find a "filling" station on every corner of every town like I can with my "dino car", when I don't have to invest $2k+ to put a decent charger in my garage, and until it doesn't cost 5 figures to replace a battery in an EV when it dies at potentially less than 100K miles, I'll stick with my "dino car" and enjoy every minute of stress free filling up and driving.

 

[Alfer]

I'm very sorry to hear that you deny the science that virtually all climatologists and other scientists agree on. There are thousands of sources where you can educate yourself. Not to mention the fact that it's gotten pretty obvious for all to see and experience. We see the effects of global climate change all around the world on a daily basis.
I'm not talking about "we're all going to die in the next ten years", and the scientists aren't either, but we are at a tipping point where major changes are becoming irreversible. The conditions that make life as we know it on this planet are in a delicate balance. Once you upset it, there are positive feedback effects which caused things to deteriorate rapidly.
Does it really seem reasonable to you that we humans can put tens of Billions of metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, year after year, with no serious effect? Our emissions have ramped up dramatically in the last few decades. This whole "the planet is 4.5 billion years old" argument is silly and easily addressed. The industrial age only began about 200 years ago. That represents just 0.0044% of the life of the planet. Our annual global emissions in 2023 are about 100 times higher than they were in the early 1800s.
Maybe you don't believe in science. It's incredibly ignorant and selfish to dismiss it, or not be concerned about it because you don't think it will effect you in the years you have left on this earth.

I do love our hypocritical "climate czar" John Kerry and his "do as I say, not as I do" attitude.

John Kerry has heated exchange at WEF over size of his carbon footprint

Kerry appeared to lose his temper Tuesday after he was confronted about the size of his carbon footprint in Davos, Switzerland.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[EdP]

One huge problem is that when you pull into an EV charging station it can be a raucous free for all to plug in. At best it can be a polite LONG WAIT. I, for one, wouldn’t want to be at the mercy of an EV charger in downtown Chicago in the depth of endless winter.

Reminds you of the long gas lines from years ago.

That problem was solved. This one will be too. New technology will bring the charge times to about 10 minutes and driving distance more than a tank of gas.