What tires did you replace the OEM with and how would you rate them?

[homeofstone]

Replaced the dumflops first with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus which made the car pull hard to the right. As I have posted in another thread the Michelin tires were replaced at about 800 miles on them with Bridgestone Turanza Serenity oem size. Car drives perfect again and handles better and rides better than when new. These tires are great in rain.

 

[RCRice]

Dunflops lasted till 33600.

I decided upon the Bridgestone Turanza w/ Serenity. I had the tires for a week and I'm very happy with them. I immediately noticed the slow speed handling was greatly improved. I always felt that the steering took too much effort at slow speeds and I thought it was the suspension and steering gear. What a surprise when I drove the car the first time with the new tires. Turning the wheel in a parking lot was now effortless.

The Bridgestone tire is a little stiffer ride until they get warmed up. Tires balanced well and run smooth at 70 to 80 mph.

 

[homeofstone]

Dunflops lasted till 33600.

I decided upon the Bridgestone Turanza w/ Serenity. I had the tires for a week and I'm very happy with them. I immediately noticed the slow speed handling was greatly improved. I always felt that the steering took too much effort at slow speeds and I thought it was the suspension and steering gear. What a surprise when I drove the car the first time with the new tires. Turning the wheel in a parking lot was now effortless.

The Bridgestone tire is a little stiffer ride until they get warmed up. Tires balanced well and run smooth at 70 to 80 mph.

Wow you got a lot of miles out of the Dunflops. My wife drives the Genesis 4.6 more than I do and she is a faster driver than I am which dates back to one of her first cars, a v8 mustang with a four speed manual, therefore the oem tires were almost gone at 18,000 miles. Anyway,after one week on a set of bad Michelins I also put the Bridgestone Turanza Serenity tires on. The Bridgestone Turanza Serenity set is the fourth set of this tire I have had on cars and they are great tires. Handling and ride is sooo much better. Handling in the rain at 60 mph is like the road is not wet.

 

[MHT]

I have had the following tires on my car:
Dunlop Sport 5000M 300 miles
Continental Contact Extreme DWS 4,300 miles
Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 40 miles
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 500 miles
Of the tires listed I have found the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S IMO to be at this point the better tire. The car tracks so straight that it takes very little effort to keep it on the road. The steering response is great and driving in the rainI feel secure. When I put these tires on we were only getting light snow but I was pleased with the way the tires performed. The Continental Contact Extreme DWS gave a slightly softer ride over rough pavement but that was about the only thing that impressed me. Of the tire listed the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S IMO has the least amount of road noise on any surface with the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 being the loudest. I did not care for the road feel and I had some vibration with the Michelin HX MXM4 that the dealer could not solve with tire balance, probably a bad tire on one or two wheels but I chose not to keep the tires. The HX MXM4 is a Grand Touring Tire and IMO the Bridgestone Serenity is probably the better Grand Touring Tire. The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S has also been the smoothest with absolutely no vibration of any kind in the steering wheel.
I never thought I would like a directional tire as is the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S but so far so good. I guess my tire recommendation would be:
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity
Continental Contact Extreme DWS

 

[sooththetruth]

I have had the following tires on my car:
Dunlop Sport 5000M 300 miles
Continental Contact Extreme DWS 4,300 miles
Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 40 miles
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 500 miles
I never thought I would like a directional tire as is the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S but so far so good. I guess my tire recommendation would be:
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity
Continental Contact Extreme DWS

Thank you for such a useful review.

 

[jchung]

Just put a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus on my 4.6. Dunlops replaced at 22,555. Really should have replaced them back at 20,000 but was waiting until my next scheduled maintenance.

Haven't had a chance to drive it much. But I'm excited about how it will feel during my commute tomorrow.

 

[MHT]

I have had the following tires on my car:
Dunlop Sport 5000M 300 miles
Continental Contact Extreme DWS 4,300 miles
Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 40 miles
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 500 miles
Of the tires listed I have found the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S IMO to be at this point the better tire. The car tracks so straight that it takes very little effort to keep it on the road. The steering response is great and driving in the rainI feel secure. When I put these tires on we were only getting light snow but I was pleased with the way the tires performed. The Continental Contact Extreme DWS gave a slightly softer ride over rough pavement but that was about the only thing that impressed me. Of the tire listed the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S IMO has the least amount of road noise on any surface with the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 being the loudest. I did not care for the road feel and I had some vibration with the Michelin HX MXM4 that the dealer could not solve with tire balance, probably a bad tire on one or two wheels but I chose not to keep the tires. The HX MXM4 is a Grand Touring Tire and IMO the Bridgestone Serenity is probably the better Grand Touring Tire. The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S has also been the smoothest with absolutely no vibration of any kind in the steering wheel.


I never thought I would like a directional tire as is the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S but so far so good. I guess my tire recommendation would be:
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity
Continental Contact Extreme DWS

After 2000 miles I have found the ride of the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S to be a little to firm for my liking. I am also getting a little road noise from the tires. I have ordered a set of Michelin Energy Saver A/S 235-50-18 97V. Michelin list the Energy Saver A/S as a passenger tire but several tire dealers have told me that with a V speed rating the tire will be more on the performance level. The Michelin Energy Saver A/S in the 235-50-18 97V was just released in this size. The reviews on the tire at Tire Rack are very good and the tire dealer feels that this tire may be better suited for me. I will post back and let everyone know what I think about this tire.
MHT

 

[morpheus2969]

After 2000 miles I have found the ride of the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S to be a little to firm for my liking. I am also getting a little road noise from the tires. I have ordered a set of Michelin Energy Saver A/S 235-50-18 97V. Michelin list the Energy Saver A/S as a passenger tire but several tire dealers have told me that with a V speed rating the tire will be more on the performance level. The Michelin Energy Saver A/S in the 235-50-18 97V was just released in this size. The reviews on the tire at Tire Rack are very good and the tire dealer feels that this tire may be better suited for me. I will post back and let everyone know what I think about this tire.
MHT

Just took my first long distance road trip this past weekend (MD to SC) and, with a total of 3000 miles on the car, I'm ready to ditch those Dunlops. They are very loud at higher speeds especially on anything but the smoothest of pavements. Additionally, as many of you have noted, they start to vibrate at around 75 miles per hour .

I'm going to have the service department do speed and road force balancing in the hopes of eeking out a little bit better performance out of these tires (3000 miles is a short time to be thinking about changing tires). If that doesn't work, I have had my eye on the Michelin Energy Saver A/S as well.

 

[Mark_888]

I just recently replaced OEM Dunlop tires at 22K miles with Michelin Primacy MXV4. I am very pleased with the tire so far, which rides much smoother than the Dunlops. I have the 17" wheels, and it doesn't seem to come in 235/50R18 size, which may be why not many on this forum have mentioned it.

 

[Mark_888]

If that doesn't work, I have had my eye on the Michelin Energy Saver A/S as well.

I don't claim to be an expert on tires, but after doing a lot of research, I got the impression Energy Saver tires ride a little stiffer than others. For some cars, this would not be a problem, but on the Genesis (pre-2012) it might be an issue if one wanted to improve the ride with new tires. My suspicion is that the Dunlops do well in the energy saving category, which may be why they were chosen (EPA CAFE laws, etc).

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[OBCT]

I've got 4k miles on a set of new Continental DW rubbers. Love 'em so far. Great traction wet or dry, very compliant when turning or braking, and very quiet, too (especially for a performance tire). Only one gripe: driving on certain surfaces causes strange extra road noise, almost certainly due to the unique tread pattern. It isn't a common issue, however, and is hardly even worth noting when compared to the Dunlops' "quirks" IMO, but it is worth considering.

 

[Mark_888]

Castrol Syntec 0W-30 {European Formula} @ 12500 mi;

I hope you have no future plans to use this oil. A European formula 0W-30 or 0W-40 is not suitable for the Genesis.

 

[MHT]

I now have 700 miles on the Michelin Energy Saver A/S 235-50-18 97V and it is the softest riding of all the tires that I have had on my car.
The tires absorb road imperfection very well. They also grip and handle well. I have had the Dunlop Sport 5000M (OEM), Continental Extreme DWS,
Michelin Sport A/S Plus, Michelin HX mxm4 and out of all of these tires I like the Michelin Energy Saver A/S the best.

 

[Mark_888]

I now have 700 miles on the Michelin Energy Saver A/S 235-50-18 97V and it is the softest riding of all the tires that I have had on my car.
The tires absorb road imperfection very well. They also grip and handle well. I have had the Dunlop Sport 5000M (OEM), Continental Extreme DWS,
Michelin Sport A/S Plus, Michelin HX mxm4 and out of all of these tires I like the Michelin Energy Saver A/S the best.

Is your tire retailer still in business, or did you drive them into bankruptcy? (I assume you got the tires replaced at no charge to you).

 

[MHT]

Is your tire retailer still in business, or did you drive them into bankruptcy? (I assume you got the tires replaced at no charge to you).

I paid an adjusted amount on all of the tires except for one set which I was not charged for. The tire dealer was just as interested to know as to what tire I thought was the better tire and which tire gave the Genesis the best ride.

 

[OBCT]

I hope you have no future plans to use this oil. A European formula 0W-30 or 0W-40 is not suitable for the Genesis.

How so?

From Castrol's website:

SAE 0W–30:
Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer’s warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Exceeds European ACEA: A3, B3, B4; VW 502 00, 505 00; MB 229.1, 229.3, 229.5; BMW LL-01; GM-LLA-025, GM-LL-B-025 and the engine protection requirements of ILSAC GF-3 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils.​

I realize the Genesis owner's manual recommends 5W-20 or 5W-30 oil, but I used this 0W-30 oil during the winter. Additionally, many online sources (I know... you can't believe everything you read on the internet...) suggest that the "true synthetic" nature of the oil in question allows it superior protection in the short- and long-term, even when compared to other similar grades of "partial synthetics" or "somehow-less-true synthetics". I don't know about the veracity of such claims. What do you know?

Anyway, here's the bottom line for me. I saw that it was getting a lot of praise online. It was available at a reasonable price at Auto Zone. I thought I'd give it a try. I haven't used it since. I don't have anything remarkably positive or negative to say about it (or any of the "full synthetic" oils I've poured in my Genesis). I'm really just wondering what it is about this particular oil that raises your eyebrows enough to make such a comment, Mark. We're all here to learn something, I hope.

 

[MHT]

Just checked and I am averaging 21.5 mpg city with the Michelin Energy saver A/S.

 

[Mark_888]

Anyway, here's the bottom line for me. I saw that it was getting a lot of praise online. It was available at a reasonable price at Auto Zone. I thought I'd give it a try. I haven't used it since. I don't have anything remarkably positive or negative to say about it (or any of the "full synthetic" oils I've poured in my Genesis). I'm really just wondering what it is about this particular oil that raises your eyebrows enough to make such a comment, Mark. We're all here to learn something, I hope.

I have been on forums such as "Bob is the Oil Guy" and seen all the raves about the Castrol 0W-30 European Formula, and it is a very robust oil. But viscosity does not tell the whole story about which oils are best suited for your car (and even if it did, not all "30 weight” oils have the same viscosity, believe it or not). The European Formula oils (not just Castrol) do not meet ILSAC GF-4 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils, or Energy Conserving Standards. In addition, European Formula oils are formulated with low sulfated ash, phosphorus and sulfur (SAPS), which could cause damage with some catalytic converters not designed to handle that oil.

Mobil 1 makes a 0W-30 oil sold in the US as AFE (Advanced Fuel Economy) that is suitable for the Genesis and other Asian and American cars. I use this oil in my Genesis. I believe Mobil 1 also makes (or did at one time) a 0W-30 European Formula Oil that is only sold in Europe. Mobil 1 does currently sell 0W-40 European Formula oil in the US, and it likewise should only be used in the recommended European Engines for which it is designed.

 

[OBCT]

I have been on forums such as "Bob is the Oil Guy" and seen all the raves about the Castrol 0W-30 European Formula, and it is a very robust oil. But viscosity does not tell the whole story about which oils are best suited for your car (and even if it did, not all "30 weight” oils have the same viscosity, believe it or not). The European Formula oils (not just Castrol) do not meet ILSAC GF-4 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils, or Energy Conserving Standards. In addition, European Formula oils are formulated with low sulfated ash, phosphorus and sulfur (SAPS), which could cause damage with some catalytic converters not designed to handle that oil.

Mobil 1 makes a 0W-30 oil sold in the US as AFE (Advanced Fuel Economy) that is suitable for the Genesis and other Asian and American cars. I use this oil in my Genesis. I believe Mobil 1 also makes (or did at one time) a 0W-30 European Formula Oil that is only sold in Europe. Mobil 1 does currently sell 0W-40 European Formula oil in the US, and it likewise should only be used in the recommended European Engines for which it is designed.

Thanks for the info. I'll certainly keep that in mind in the future.

Interesting that there's such a difference between the American and European automobile industries. I suppose it shouldn't be that surprising.

 

[Mark_888]

Thanks for the info. I'll certainly keep that in mind in the future.

Interesting that there's such a difference between the American and European automobile industries. I suppose it shouldn't be that surprising.

Different laws. They favor low polution oils and sacrifice some fuel economy, but also many of the German engines require much more robust oils. They offset the lower fuel economy to some degree with longer oil change intervals (and tax the heck out of gas to discourage its use). I don't think it applies to European cars made outside of Germany, but not sure.