14000 miles on factory tires

[allenfc]

I just had to replace the rear tires on my 2009 genesis 4.6L after only 14000 miles. I admit I'm a bit aggressive on the throttle but this seems a bit much. Anyone else have this problem?

 

[imaphaetonguy]

Replaced mine @ 14,500, which is common with the Dunlop 5000M.

I went with Pirelli PZero Nero A/S. Great tire!

 

[CanukV6]

Yep. I got about 25,000 km (15,625 miles) out of my OEM Dunlops. I think that is typical for those tires. Regular rotation front to back helps but not by much.

 

[rickfen]

Yep. I got about 25,000 km (15,625 miles) out of my OEM Dunlops. I think that is typical for those tires. Regular rotation front to back helps but not by much.

Don't know whether the type of driving makes a difference, but I have a 2010 3.8 with around 23000 km. As I just started a 10000km trip I checked my tires before I left and I have around 75% of the tire left, so I should be good for at least 35-40km before I have to replace. I'm retired so my driving is probably around 50-50 hwy and city (no rush hour). Anyone know which type of driving is harder on the tires? I rotate around 10k, so twice so far.

 

[darrell]

Don't know whether the type of driving makes a difference, but I have a 2010 3.8 with around 23000 km. As I just started a 10000km trip I checked my tires before I left and I have around 75% of the tire left, so I should be good for at least 35-40km before I have to replace. I'm retired so my driving is probably around 50-50 hwy and city (no rush hour). Anyone know which type of driving is harder on the tires? I rotate around 10k, so twice so far.

Similar experience with my 2010 3.8 I have around 12,000 miles and the Dunlops have a tread left in the 8/32 to 7/32 range. The wear so far is fairly even. Tires rotated once so far. I believe the new tire original tread is 10/32.

 

[mikec]

Steady rolling is easy on tires; braking and especially turning causes more wear. Highway driving is pretty much the easiest for the whole car actually: 70 miles on the highway is about an hour of operation, right? Yet 70 miles of city driving is at least 2 or 3 hours typically... with a lot more up-n-down RPMs on the engine plus idle time... so the number of revolutions can be far higher for 70 city miles than 70 highway miles. Transmission wear occurs during the shifts... not many of those on the highway. Not much brake pad wear on the highway either.

One thing that many folks do that "consumes" tires a little bit - especially folks that never learned to drive a car without power steering - is to turn the steering wheel while the vehicle isn't rolling. That just makes the front wheels drag across the pavement, grinding off a little rubber at the "contact patch" area. With power steering it's easy to turn the wheels this way; without power steering is MUCH more difficult to turn the steering wheel... unless the car is creeping forwards/backwards - then it's no harder than when you're moving at normal driving speeds. Folks that learned to drive without power steering likely developed habits that include driving 1 or 2 MPH whenever they need to really crank on the steering wheel - like when cranking the steering for that first cut into a parallel parking spot.

Softer rubber tires typically grip better - i.e. "performance" tires. But this softer rubber is less durable so the tires wear out faster. Those 80,000 mile rated tires often use very hard rubber - and have little grip. Stick those on a Genesis (or any car) and you'll see your cornering ability drop and emergency braking distances can increase dramatically. The factory Dunlops are a fairly soft rubber... and they had less tread depth to start with... so they wear fast.

mike c.

 

[waveman]

One thing that many folks do that "consumes" tires a little bit - especially folks that never learned to drive a car without power steering - is to turn the steering wheel while the vehicle isn't rolling. That just makes the front wheels drag across the pavement, grinding off a little rubber at the "contact patch" area. With power steering it's easy to turn the wheels this way; without power steering is MUCH more difficult to turn the steering wheel... unless the car is creeping forwards/backwards - then it's no harder than when you're moving at normal driving speeds. Folks that learned to drive without power steering likely developed habits that include driving 1 or 2 MPH whenever they need to really crank on the steering wheel - like when cranking the steering for that first cut into a parallel parking spot.

mike c.

Funny you should mention this - I noticed a bunch of tire marks on our driveway last week and realized that they were from my daughter doing exactly what you're describing. I told her to always make sure that the car is moving a bit when she turns the wheel sharply if she can. I don't recall if the first car I drove a lot - a '68 Dodge Monaco - had power steering or not, but I suspect it did.

 

[CanukV6]

Majority of my driving is Highway and while I drive enthusiasticly, I don't engage in burn-outs or harsh acceleration (normally ). I use winter tires in the colder months so the actual mileage on the OEM tires is difficult to calculate exactly, but I think the 25k km would be about right. I have the Tech package with the 18" wheels/tires. Not sure if they are worse than the 17" for wear or if they changed the OEM compound for 2010, but I recall many posts about premature tire wear for 2009 owners.

 

[ATA]

Yep, 13,700 miles and I am done with the Dunlop's, the noise was driving me crazy. My new tires are Pirelli P Zero Nero 97W.
Price I paid was $798.00 slightly more than Tire Rack but like to keep my business local if possible.
Ratings and description seemed just what I am looking for.

 

[nextcar]

Yep, 13,700 miles and I am done with the Dunlop's, the noise was driving me crazy. My new tires are Pirelli P Zero Nero 97W.
Price I paid was $798.00 slightly more than Tire Rack but like to keep my business local if possible.
Ratings and description seemed just what I am looking for.

how is the noise and ride comfort?

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[homeofstone]

Got about 18,000 on the Dunflops. Now have 20,000 on a set of Bridgestone Turanza Serenity tires and they are about 50% worn. The Bridgestone's are smooth riding, and great in wet weather.

 

[ATA]

Put 200 miles on the P zero's and find that the noise is less pronounced but still noticeable on certain highway surfaces. I do notice that the P Zero's take bumps with much less harshness, which is a plus.

The question is was the expenditure worth it? As the Dunlop's were 6/32 tread wear at the 13K mark I guess I was but 6 months away from needing new tires anyway and now having new tires for the winter is a plus.

The new tires are quieter overall but certain highway surfaces are still somewhat loud and there is nothing that can be done about that with a high performance tire.

Bottom line, I am glad I bought the new tires, as they are quieter and will give me peace of mind for the next 18 months or so when the P Zero's get to 6/32's, at which time I will see if they get noisy also.

 

[Manofknobs]

I have put 30,000 miles on the Dunlops and I definitely will need new tires before snow falls. I have been planning on going with the Continental DWS but the Cooper Zeon RS3-A looks very interesting. Consumer Reports rates them as a top tire in the Oct issue slightly better than the DWS and my local dealer has a buy 3 get one free plus an additional $75 rebate. That comes to $112 each. Sure beats the $180 to $200 price on the DWS. But has anyone else had experience with the Coopers? I think they have always been considered a cheaper tire but it looks like they have improved greatly. Any thoughts on the Coopers? Being in Wisconsin I need a tire that works well in the snow but I dont want to go with a snow tire.

 

[scottdk]

I have put 30,000 miles on the Dunlops and I definitely will need new tires before snow falls. I have been planning on going with the Continental DWS but the Cooper Zeon RS3-A looks very interesting. Consumer Reports rates them as a top tire in the Oct issue slightly better than the DWS and my local dealer has a buy 3 get one free plus an additional $75 rebate. That comes to $112 each. Sure beats the $180 to $200 price on the DWS. But has anyone else had experience with the Coopers? I think they have always been considered a cheaper tire but it looks like they have improved greatly. Any thoughts on the Coopers? Being in Wisconsin I need a tire that works well in the snow but I dont want to go with a snow tire.

My local tire shop owner uses Cooper tires on his truck. My friend has Cooper tires on his Accord and said they're a vast improvmenet of the Michelins that came on the car.

Cooper tires are the only tires made in the good ol' US of A.

 

[tompass]

I certainly am enjoying my Bridgestone Serenity's. Running at 32psi ambient.

 

[gadgetboy]

I only got 26k out of my Michelin Energy Savers on my 2012 4.6. They all come with a limited factory tread warranty and Discount Tire gave me $144 off per tire for the Pilot Sport A/S Plus I purchased ($235 each before reduction)

 

[nb_mike]

I have a 2009 3.8 Gennie I had 25,210 on them. I was raised in Wisconsin and never had snow tires and got thru all kinds of snow with no problem. The Dunlaps made me feel like driving on an ice skating rink when it snowed....and that is in Indiana. I have Pirelli tires and they are much better.

 

[pacwest]

2010 with 26k on the original Dunlops.
Time to replace. Can anyone recommend a quite, smooth riding tire? I live on the west coast, so snow tires aren't necessary. I never liked the rough ride of the Dunlops, and would love a softer riding tire that is also quiet and gets good wear. I'm probably asking for too much, but would really appreciate your input!

 

[rickfen]

2010 with 26k on the original Dunlops.
Time to replace. Can anyone recommend a quite, smooth riding tire? I live on the west coast, so snow tires aren't necessary. I never liked the rough ride of the Dunlops, and would love a softer riding tire that is also quiet and gets good wear. I'm probably asking for too much, but would really appreciate your input!

I got 30000km (20000miles) out of my dunlops. By that time, the dunlops were noisy (almost 'thumping") so I replaced with Bridgestone Turenza serenitys. I wear hearing aids, so noise is a very important consideration for me (no matter how expensive or computerized hearing aids are, they are just fancy amplifiers - loudest sound wins). The Bridgestones are very quiet and have "kept" the smooth ride of the genesis.
I recommend them.

 

[Southern Boy]

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I have posted this on a pervious thread, but feel it may have some value to this discussion.

I purchased a new set of wheels for my Genesis and went from 17” stock wheel to 18” wheels. That put me in the market for a new set of shoes for my Genesis. I had a hard time with a thousand dollars for tires, so I did a little looking around for what was available.
My searches lead me to General G-Max AS03 ZR18 tires.
The Continental tire company bought General back in the late 90s along with Uniroyal and continues to manufacture tires under those brand names.
The bottom line is I purchased these tires (General G-Max AS03 225/50ZR18) for $574 delivered to the door from http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...018638&yr=2011.
General G-max AS03 comes with a 45 day Customer Satisfaction Trial. If you don’t love them they will replace them.

http://generaltire.custhelp.com/app/...detail/a_id/36

Information and video for General G-Max AS03 tires.

http://www.generaltire.com/tires/per...ce/g-max-as-03

http://generaltire.custhelp.com/app/...SFZQcWVPOWw=

I live in Florida so my main concern is wet and dry traction, but they also perform well in light snow.

I wanted a quite smooth ride and a good preforming tire at a reasonable price.
I have had these tries since June of 2012. The tires have about 5K miles on them and I’m very satisfied with them. IMPO for half the price and a 45 day Customer Satisfaction Trial they might be worth a look.