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gknyce said:

As the subject says - getting attached messages after manually updating (May maps/update) the car. I let the Maps/MM OTA expire, b/c I don't mind doing this manually and I see little value in paying for it - but NOW, with this latest update, it seems to indicate that it uses online only and falls back to off-line maps only for connectivity issues... and even though (I checked) the Map OTA subscription doesn't say anything about this feature, I'm wondering - anyone else see these msgs? Or, am I the only one who let the Maps OTA subscription lapse? I _did_ dbl-check with the USB, says it's the same version as to what I have.

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I read that the new version sources from Google in real time.

GV60Lem said:

I read that the new version sources from Google in real time.

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Right - that is why I'm suspecting the map OTA subscription right now be a requirement, but so far customer support says no

Solved, seemingly. I had three phone calls, two different divisions of maps and one with Genesis connected services. Everybody said that the Map OTA subscription is not required, even the release notes indicate the other subscription services. I even reinstalled the May update, with no change in behavior

But once I repurchased the Map OTA subscription, the air went away, it seemingly downloaded another update, and now everything is hunky-dory. Honestly this is what I suspected the entire time. Documented here in case anyone else encounters this

I prefer the integrated screen in the dash like in my 2015 Genesis and my 2020 G90. Seems like more thought was put into the design. Let's face it, screens are a cost saving measure. Saves on a lot of materials by replacing buttons, gauges, wiring with a screen. At least some manufacturers are getting the message and putting the most commonly used buttons back in their new cars...

While we're at it, bring back analog gauge clusters on higher end cars. Doesn't look like they belong. It's like looking at a digital Rolex... it's not right... lol

I went with an older G70 just to stay away from some the digital controls.

My mom wanted a GV70 or GV80 but refused to buy one with the screen.

If this digital cockpit trend continues there probably won't be a used car market at some point....We all know that screen will suck in 5-7 years.

@SuperKing is hitting the nail right on the head here. These big 27" panoramic displays are a cost saving measure masquerading as cutting edge luxury.

It's way cheaper for a manufacturer to source one big glass panel from an electronics supplier than it is to design, wire, and fit a beautifully integrated dashboard with physical analog clusters, custom bezels, and hidden vents.

But to @MrMegadeth’s point about the used market... what choice do we actually have moving forward? If you don't like the big screens, where do you go? BMW has the giant curved iDrive display, Mercedes has the massive Hyperscreen, and Audi is doing the triple screen setup.

At least Genesis had the decency to leave us a physical rotary wheel and dedicated knobs for the climate control so we aren't crashing into a ditch trying to adjust the AC. It might look a bit like a digital Rolex, but compared to what Tesla or Rivian are doing by stripping every single button out of the cabin, the Genesis setup feels like a reasonable compromise between 2026 tech and traditional usability.

I remember being an a mall that had a Tesla dealer around 2020, and when I looked inside the car and saw one big squarish screen and very little else, I said to my self, "I don't think I can own a car with a bland dashboard like that". That being said, the newer Genesis dash looks a lot better than the 2020ish Tesla did. I could probably get used to it in a short period of time.
Different strokes for different folks, but I like a dash with a lot of gauges and dials. Some new cars use all dials and some use the screen, but I like the 2021 Genesis because you can control a lot of stuff with dials and with the screen. Your choice.....The best of both worlds.

Fred Mancini said:

@SuperKing is hitting the nail right on the head here. These big 27" panoramic displays are a cost saving measure masquerading as cutting edge luxury.

It's way cheaper for a manufacturer to source one big glass panel from an electronics supplier than it is to design, wire, and fit a beautifully integrated dashboard with physical analog clusters, custom bezels, and hidden vents.

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I’d be interested in seeing that cost comparison, if you have it available.

My first stab at it would be to disconnect the electrical connections related to the unit and inspect for corrosion. Clean them up with some de-ox spray and maybe put a little dielectric grease on the seals on the connectors and then re-mate them. See if that makes any difference with the issue. Are the under-covers still installed? I've heard of problems developing with the steering when the undercover is left off.

joegr said:

My first stab at it would be to disconnect the electrical connections related to the unit and inspect for corrosion. Clean them up with some de-ox spray and maybe put a little dielectric grease on the seals on the connectors and then re-mate them. See if that makes any difference with the issue. Are the under-covers still installed? I've heard of problems developing with the steering when the undercover is left off.

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Just got a call and email with video showing issues. The video shows the voltage measured at the electrical connections to be as expected in the service manual. They are quoting him $8,000 to replace the "MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING MODULE". The car is only worth $9000 sold to an individual in great condition, and much less if traded in. It doesn't make sense to replace the steering module at this price.

My son looked the part up online and can get one for $1000, but none of the independent shops in my area are willing to work on the car. In fact, the local Hyundai dealers in my hometown of Tupelo, MS and an hour away in Columbus, MS refused to work on the 2015 Hyundai Genesis, even though it is a Hyundai! The dealer that it is with now is two hours away.

Does anyone know of any independent shops in Memphis, TN or Birmingham, AL that would tackle replacing the power steering module?

Or, is there a part of the steering module that can be replaced or overhauled, such as a bad electric motor, without replacing the entire assembly?

I'm not surprised at all. I'm really happy with the quality of my GV60 after three years and 36,000 miles. It has only had one minor issue that was free to repair. I've owned numerous Lexus Porsche and Mercedes cars amongst other brands, and this one ranks right near the top with those for initial quality. And given that it's an electric car, I expect many fewer repairs in the future. Just as long as the ICCU doesn't give out.

Following in Lexus' footsteps - though they don't wait forever to introduce new technology...

Here is the newly release TSB: RCRIT-26V229-3627.pdf

newskatercat said:

Good afternoon! Just purchased a 2026 Genesis GV70. My first Genesis, hopefully it will be a good experience!

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Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. Congratulations on your brand new Genesis GV70! What did the GV70 replace for you? I'm glad you found us.

We replaced a 2019 Lexus UX 200! We bought it new, and was a terrific no problem car!. Hoping we get a similar experience with the Genesis!

newskatercat said:

We replaced a 2019 Lexus UX 200! We bought it new, and was a terrific no problem car!. Hoping we get a similar experience with the Genesis!

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The UX is a nice car - but the GV70 - that's a big upgrade. Congratulations! Lexus does have a great reputation for reliability - though I've found they're always quite late to the game when it comes to technology. Probably one of the reasons their vehicles has so few issues. They want until every other brand has worked out the bugs...

Thanks, hoping all bugs have been eradicated!

scottsedy said:

I didnt know this website existed and I've had my 2014 Equus for 3 years.

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Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. I'm glad you finally found us! How are you liking the Equus - and what did it replace for you?

Same here

Adary said:

Same here

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You too? What year is your Equus?

bugsbunny said:

Thrilled to be part of this family and looking forward to contributing and sharing my thoughts regarding Genesis! I just purchased a 2024 G90 with 29k (non-CPO) and I'm amazed and pleased with the vehicle. Took the car to the local Genesis dealer for a recall; no issues, and the job was done perfectly (I really like this Genesis dealer service department). Anyway, the finance department quoted me almost $5k for a next 5-year extended warranty or 75k, but I still have almost 3 years and 20k miles of manufacturer warranty left on it. When's a good time to shop for an extended warranty, and from whom? TIA! #Family #Thoughts #Genesis #Vehicle #Recall #Service #Warranty #Miles

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Some thoughts for you based on my experience.

1. If you still have 3 yrs and 20k left I wouldn't get it yet. In essence you would be paying for extra coverage that you already have. The additional coverage starts from the day you purchase it not when the manufacturer's warranty ends. So if your manufacturer's warranty were to last for three years, if purchased now, you would be buying a two year extended warranty. The only plus if you were to get it now would be it would be a little less expensive. The higher the mileage, the more costly the warranty.

Having almost 3 yrs left is great but, depending on how much you drive, it would not be hard to put 20k on in a year or two. If you think you will put that 20k on in the not to distant future, in the long run, it may be cheaper to get the extra warranty sooner rather than later.

2. In either case, I have heard but don't know for sure that if you try to purchase an extended warranty after the manufacturer's warranty (yrs or mileage) expires, they will not sell you one. Again, I am not sure if this is correct.

In my case i have a 23 GV80 with maybe 2 years left on the manufacturer's warranty. My mileage really is not an issue in that I only have 36k on it.

I am however planning on purchasing a contract in the not to distant future though because the higher the mileage the more costly the plan is. As of right now if I were to purchase the Genesis platinum for 5 yrs 100k it would cost me $3744. If I wait until I have 46k the 5 yr 100k is not available. A 5 yr 60k would cost $5739. That is quite the difference. All figures BTW are from Genesis' site.

Interesting note. I just played with the numbers and the key mileage appears to be anything over 40k for the 5yr 100k. I put in 40k and it gave me it. I then put in 40950 miles and the 5yr 100k was gone only 5yr 60k was available. So it looks like I'm going to be purchasing one soon. So with what you said they quoted you, I would bet you are already over 40k mileage wise.

I am actually glad you posted this. It made me look up my numbers. It just save me a good amount of money.

If I was you, I would go to the Genesis site and play with the mileage and numbers and see what you get before making any decision.

Hope this helps a bit. And, there are other members that have more knowledge of this than me. I may not be 100% correct on everything.

Gerry

Thank you for informing, I'm in Norcal bay area & Genesis doesn't offer California residents extended warranty on line, you have to go to a Genesis dealer to purchase one. And yes if my car's odometer reads 50001 I will not be able to buy extended warranty.
In next 3 years I might drive 15k to 18k miles. This is a weekend car. So I guess I'll wait couple of more years & than try buying extended warranty.

I would recommend the GPP or HPP if you can get it from Genesis/Hyundai. It is the best one & way to get - it is just too bad it doesn't extend it as much as did when it was under the Hyundai nameplate.

If you don't or can't get the GPP - then here is the best I can advise:

Avoid anything with "shield" or "guard" in the name. You are in for an uphill battle almost every time. Instead - go with:

Endurance (though I have read reports on a few forums that they are getting tougher to get approvals from)
Fidelity
Zurich (pricey but approves everything pretty much, without a fight)
Route 66

Anything else I would skip. You can contact the companies above directly.

bugsbunny said:

Thrilled to be part of this family and looking forward to contributing and sharing my thoughts regarding Genesis! I just purchased a 2024 G90 with 29k (non-CPO) and I'm amazed and pleased with the vehicle. Took the car to the local Genesis dealer for a recall; no issues, and the job was done perfectly (I really like this Genesis dealer service department). Anyway, the finance department quoted me almost $5k for a next 5-year extended warranty or 75k, but I still have almost 3 years and 20k miles of manufacturer warranty left on it. When's a good time to shop for an extended warranty, and from whom? TIA! #Family #Thoughts #Genesis #Vehicle #Recall #Service #Warranty #Miles

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Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. I'm glad you found us! It looks like you're getting some great advice relating to extending the warranty on your Genesis G90. By the way, what did the G90 replace for you? It's really a beautiful car. In my opinion, and I really am not biased, it is the nicest full-size premium luxury sedan available outside of a Rolls Royce or Bentley.