2012 5.0 blown motor

[Mark_888]

Mark_888 you are making assumptions that because he says motor he probably abuses his car.

I drive a route every single day to work where I merge from a 50kph road to a 110kph highway. My car hits near Redline every single time. Does that mean it's being nfc abused?
I do absolutely understand the point you are trying to make. I just don't see why you are trying to make it. It is completely moot om this subject as warranty is covering it. Therefore hyundai has not found and evidence of obvious abuse.
It just sounds to me like the equivalent to an old man complaining about teenagers and their loud music and stupid clothes.

I said that there may be a correlation between the fact that he uses the phrase "blown motor" to driving the car in a spirited fashion, achieving redline RPM on a much more frequent basis than the average person. It was just an interesting observation of language and rhetoric.

You are the one who is attaching the term "abuse" to such driving habits. Anyone who buys a car can do with it how they please, and any warranty issues are between Hyundai and the owner, not involving me.

I don't know why some people are so sensitive about this subject.

 

[T_D_Diggs]

Your first comment in this thread was a snide remark. And your demeanor throughout has been the same. You may not have actually said the word abuse. But we all know what you were insinuating. And for you to try and play the innocent aloof doe eyed roll here shows you are being a silly person. And now ego is getting in the way and you are passing the buck on people being "so sensitive"

 

[dmitriylm]

Your first comment in this thread was a snide remark. And your demeanor throughout has been the same. You may not have actually said the word abuse. But we all know what you were insinuating. And for you to try and play the innocent aloof doe eyed roll here shows you are being a silly person. And now ego is getting in the way and you are passing the buck on people being "so sensitive"

I couldn't agree any more.

 

[Mark_888]

Your first comment in this thread was a snide remark. And your demeanor throughout has been the same. You may not have actually said the word abuse. But we all know what you were insinuating. And for you to try and play the innocent aloof doe eyed roll here shows you are being a silly person. And now ego is getting in the way and you are passing the buck on people being "so sensitive"

I certainly would not drive my care to redline on a regular basis, so I am not denying anything. But it's your car and you can do what you want with it. I don't know why you are so concerned about my opinion on the matter.

 

[LandoAWD]

I don't know what you mean about "unusual." 95% of drivers don't reach redline on a routine basis. .

63% of statistics are made up on the spot...

 

[Mark_888]

63% of statistics are made up on the spot...

Probably higher. I know I made mine up.

 

[craigt]

For those who really care:

http://engineering.mit.edu/ask/what’s-difference-between-motor-and-engine
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/42027/semantic-difference-between-engine-and-motor
http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/industrial/difference-between-engine-and-motor/
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=206484

Hopefully this will keep Mark busy for a little while.

 

[Mark_888]

For those who really care:

http://engineering.mit.edu/ask/what’s-difference-between-motor-and-engine
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/42027/semantic-difference-between-engine-and-motor
http://www.differencebetween.net/technology/industrial/difference-between-engine-and-motor/
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=206484

Hopefully this will keep Mark busy for a little while.

Not really sure they are synonymous. The following just don't sound right:

• Hyundai Engines America
• Ford Engine Company
• General Engines

 

[craigt]

Then why be presumptuous when someone mentions their motor blew?

 

[Mark_888]

Then why be presumptuous when someone mentions their motor blew?

In racing circles (and among many fans of racing) they call the engine a motor. Most people would say that their engine blew. I was just guessing based on the rhetoric he used, and the fact that he routinely drove the car to redline, that he is a fan of auto racing.

I don't understand why people are so upset just because I speculated that deepcolor is a racing fan? I would expect a lot of R-Spec owners to be auto racing fans.

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[craigt]

I am hardly upset, and I'm sure others here are also not upset.

But, and I'm going to take liberty with this... we all think you're nuts.

 

[Mark_888]

But, and I'm going to take liberty with this... we all think you're nuts.

I have no problem with you or anyone else expressing an opinion about my sanity.

But I am not sure about everyone else, because some others do appear to be upset when I express my opinion.

 

[T_D_Diggs]

In racing circles (and among many fans of racing) they call the engine a motor. Most people would say that their engine blew. I was just guessing based on the rhetoric he used, and the fact that he routinely drove the car to redline, that he is a fan of auto racing.

I don't understand why people are so upset just because I speculated that deepcolor is a racing fan? I would expect a lot of R-Spec owners to be auto racing fans.

Again you are trying to cover for yourself. It had nothing to do with you speculating he was a racing fan. We aren't stupid. Again you're ego is getting in the way. You know people would probably actually gain respect in your opinion if you just admitted your folly. Instead the fact that you are continuing with this facade of false innocence makes you look worse and worse

 

[Mark_888]

Again you are trying to cover for yourself. It had nothing to do with you speculating he was a racing fan. We aren't stupid. Again you're ego is getting in the way. You know people would probably actually gain respect in your opinion if you just admitted your folly. Instead the fact that you are continuing with this facade of false innocence makes you look worse and worse

I didn't say it was only just that he was a racing fan. I said he was probably a racing fan (or even a participant), and also that he liked to run his car to redline as a real (or simulated) racing experience (depending on much space he had available to him).

I also made it clear that I would not drive my car that way except in a rare emergency, for several reasons, including that I might keep it past the warranty period.

So, I don't think I am hiding anything. But if you disagree, please explain in more detail what you think I am hiding.

Also, I was not looking for respect, just making a whimsical observation.

 

[dareckibmw]

 

[T_D_Diggs]

"Any time someone refers to the term "motor" instead of "engine" that is a tell, indicating that the person is a race car driver, or a wannabee race car driver. That would probably explain what happened to the engine" - direct quote from Mark_888

What you were suggesting is that he used the term motor instead of engine. Which suggests he is a racing fan or "a wannabe raceway driver". Which intern suggests he drives it like a race car. Which in turn suggests he abuses his car. Which in turn yet, led to his cars failure. This is the assumptions you put fourth. It's the assumptions and opinion everybody got from what you said. Now you are basically denying it even though it's right in front of everybodies eyes.
The reason I have taken interest is because you out of nowhere started rudely participating in this thread with negative remarks and assumptions towards someone without any cause or reason.
If I saw someone doing this in the street to somebody I'd call them on it too. It's nothing personal. I agree with you in a lot of other threads. Just in this particular case you are in the wrong.

 

[amartz]

But if you disagree, please explain in more detail what you think I am hiding.

*Pulease* Don't!!

 

[Mark_888]

What you were suggesting is that he used the term motor instead of engine.

Yes I said that.

Which suggests he is a racing fan or "a wannabe raceway driver". Which intern suggests he drives it like a race car.

I definitely speculated that these things may be true. I don’t think that is a big stretch, since deepcolor said he was “working it hard in manual and getting up near the red line rpm's.”

Which in turn suggests he abuses his car. Which in turn yet, led to his cars failure.

I would not drive my car that way unless it was an emergency, but I am not naïve and I understand that a lot of people who buy a R-Spec like to drive it that way. I do believe that a car frequently driven that way is more likely to have problems than one not driven that way. Maybe it was a complete coincidence that the engine blew while he was near redline, but I doubt it. But that’s just my opinion and yours may be different.

This is the assumptions you put fourth. It's the assumptions and opinion everybody got from what you said. Now you are basically denying it even though it's right in front of everybodies eyes.

I don’t think I am denying anything. Some other comments came up about the warranty, and I agree that as long as the car is under the mileage and months limit, it is covered by the warranty. However, it wouldn’t surprise me if Hyundai would have given him some flack about the engine failure if they knew about his driving habits (Hyundai likes to get out of warranty coverage if they can), but I agree they have no legal grounds for denying coverage, and I don’t see how they can find out anyway.

 

[zielritter]

This thread is making me laugh out loud at my desk. Mark is clearly trolling the crap out of some of you. It's like he gets bored because nothing interesting is happening here, and starts an argument on the merits of using the term "motor" versus "engine" and some of us get sucked right into a charade.

I've seen him do this in many threads. It looks like he's taken a serious stance on some inane, trivial topic, but he's really not as vested in it as it looks like on the surface. I know, because I have a friend who does the same stuff - argues for the sake of entertainment.

I've been sucked into arguing about stupid topics like lunch meat with my friend so many times and this conversation here has all the telltale signs of one of those scenarios.

 

[Gunkk]