2017 G90 5.0L Reliability?

[NickinSimi]

I have a 2017 G90 Ultimate 5.0 with 27.400 miles bought it new in and I am the only person that drives it. About two weeks ago I noticed a couple of drops of oil in my garage so I checked underneath by the oil filter section and saw some dampness, then the leak got worse. I took it to the dealer on Thursday and was told that there was an upper oil pan leak, I do not have all of the specifics as to what that means since I haven't talked to the mechanic. I was told that the car would be ready Monday Feb 15 but from the information that I did receive (online info) it is a panel area above the oil pan and is not easy to repair. So here I am with a vehicle that I keep in pristine condition that has let me down, I am glad that I wasn't on a road trip as that could have been a nightmare, so to say that this vehicle has shattered my confidence in the Genesis brand would be an understatement. I had always planned to keep the car for a long time as I really like driving it and it has all of the features that I like but now?

 

[GnatGoSplat]

That's really bad, and quite surprising. Typically, engine oil pan gaskets last the life of the car. It's only BMWs I've ever heard of needing one in the 5-digit mileage range (a 2016 750i I was going to buy had its upper oil-pan gasket done at 24k). On most cars, it requires suspending the engine and dropping the subframe out the bottom along with the steering rack. If AWD, often the axles and front differential need to be removed. It's one of those huge jobs that would make you glad you have a warranty and makes me question whether I'd want to buy one with not much warranty left.

 

[NickinSimi]

Thanks for that input, good info. I am not sure what it entails on the G90 but along with your info and everything else I am hearing, it is a big deal. I have RWD so at least that's a plus.

 

[[NOBODY]]

I sprayed a can of CRC valve cleaner into the throttle at 100k km and there was little to no smoke after letting it sit for an hour. Either the stuff doesn't work or the carbon build up isn't that bad

I have read somewhere that the Genesis engineers worked hard to make this engine as carbon free as possible through design choices, since it was not going to have port injection. I hope so! My G37 ran super strong up to 175k miles, when I sold it. Engine - NA V6, port injection, was as strong as ever at 175k. No smoke, no oil leaks, no power loss, if anything it got stronger. I hope my G70 3.3 can match that sort of reliability over time.

 

[turnne]

HMG and GM have had fewer issues with carbon build up than other automakers with regard to DGI.

The LS 500 is a different type of flagship sedan than its predecessors or the G80, and it has below average reliability (so, you're really not missing out - notwithstanding that you're looking at V8 equipped sedans).

What???
The Lexus LS500 has below average reliability?.....Please post links to those stats because I have heard its quite the opposite

I have not seen you post anything that unhinged since you said used Tellurides were going for sticker or that they were the most expensive vehicle in the Kia showroom!!


The Lexus LS is a different type of car...There is no V8

But the finish, technology and customization options are at a higher level than the G90......and so is the cost ,new or used
The Lexus LS500 is also faster 0-60 and in the Quarter mile than the V8 G90...if one cares about those stats
www.carindigo.com...is the source of the performance stats

Neither vehicle compares to the twin turbo V8's and V12's, performance wise, of the Germans full size sedans...but that is completely different ball park of money
Like I have posted many times...that buyer wants absolutely cutting edge technology and customization
Something that the Germans excel at

Warren

 

[[NOBODY]]

CR says the new LS 500 is a misfire from Lexus, has lots of issues, and buyers should consider the new G90 instead. Love it!

 

[turnne]

CR says the new LS 500 is a misfire from Lexus, has lots of issues, and buyers should consider the new G90 instead. Love it!

LOL...you should read that article in its entirety
it basically says for those buyers that wanted that " the LS used to deliver"....quote below

"Shoppers who want what the LS used to deliver should consider the more satisfying Genesis G90, which we think has stolen the crown for luxury driving experience"

Unfortunately those buyers havent really been buying the LS is numbers for many years...In fact the much higher priced S class has outsold the Lexus LS three to one in the last several years

So Lexus probably felt they need to go another direction for an increase in sales
I am betting their average buyer was both older and less affluent than a Mercedes S class buyer

Its like people that say Cadillac should have kept the luxo barges they were known for years ago
They probably would have if they had been selling like the Europeans and growing in market share

Warren

 

[[NOBODY]]

What???
The Lexus LS500 has below average reliability?.....Please post links to those stats because I have heard its quite the opposite

I have not seen you post anything that unhinged since you said used Tellurides were going for sticker or that they were the most expensive vehicle in the Kia showroom!!


The Lexus LS is a different type of car...There is no V8

But the finish, technology and customization options are at a higher level than the G90......and so is the cost ,new or used
The Lexus LS500 is also faster 0-60 and in the Quarter mile than the V8 G90...if one cares about those stats
www.carindigo.com...is the source of the performance stats

Neither vehicle compares to the twin turbo V8's and V12's, performance wise, of the Germans full size sedans...but that is completely different ball park of money
Like I have posted many times...that buyer wants absolutely cutting edge technology and customization
Something that the Germans excel at

Warren

LOL...you should read that article in its entirety
it basically says for those buyers that wanted that " the LS used to deliver"....quote below

"Shoppers who want what the LS used to deliver should consider the more satisfying Genesis G90, which we think has stolen the crown for luxury driving experience"

Unfortunately those buyers havent really been buying the LS is numbers for many years...In fact the much higher priced S class has outsold the Lexus LS three to one in the last several years

So Lexus probably felt they need to go another direction for an increase in sales
I am betting their average buyer was both older and less affluent than a Mercedes S class buyer

Its like people that say Cadillac should have kept the luxo barges they were known for years ago
They probably would have if they had been selling like the Europeans and growing in market share

Warren

One can always formulate an argument against or for anything, regardless of facts, so I decline to continue your 'discussion.'

 

[turnne]

One can always formulate an argument against or for anything, regardless of facts, so I decline to continue your 'discussion.'

Or lack of capability to separate facts from opinion

But hey...to each their own....

Warren

 

[Backslack]

Seems like you aren't on the same page as everyone else as to what article we're referring to. LS500 is a reliability and quality disaster according to CR subscribers who own one.

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[turnne]

Seems like you aren't on the same page as everyone else as to what article we're referring to. LS500 is a reliability and quality disaster according to CR subscribers who own one.

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And yet owners at Edmonds have different reviews

Used 2018 Lexus LS 500 Consumer Reviews - 24 Car Reviews | Edmunds

View all 24 consumer vehicle reviews for the Used 2018 Lexus LS 500 on Edmunds, or submit your own review of the 2018 LS 500.

www.edmunds.com

Here are some JD Power actual owners as well

2018 Lexus LS LS 500 AWD Ratings, Pricing, Reviews & Awards

Get accurate pricing information for 2018 Lexus LS LS 500 AWD, and explore other options.

www.jdpower.com

That Consumer reports lost me when it said the Genesis G90 " felt quicker"....when it actually wasnt versus the LS500 in 0-60 or 1/4 mile

Here is US News 4.5 star out of 5 in reliability

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/lexus/ls/2019/reliability

I am more interested in facts...

Warren

 

[Backslack]

I am more interested in facts...

Warren

So CR, which actually measures specific mechanical problem areas based on reports of hundreds if not thousands of verified owners is somehow less factual than some 20 arbitrary user reviews you found on Edmunds?

Just because they don't validate your silly little brand biases doesn't make them not facts.

 

[turnne]

So CR, which actually measures specific mechanical problem areas based on reports of hundreds if not thousands of verified owners is somehow less factual than some 20 arbitrary user reviews you found on Edmunds?

Just because they don't validate your silly little biases doesn't make them not facts.

Please show me where CR had "hundreds if not thousands" of verified owners of the LS to sample from
I listed more than Edmuds there...and there are many more places to look at mirror Edmunds

Do you need more links than I have provided?

Warren

 

[Backslack]

Please show me where CR had "hundreds if not thousands" of verified owners of the LS to sample from
I listed more than Edmuds there...and there are many more places to look at mirror Edmunds

Do you need more links than I have provided?

Warren

"Here is this random used car sales site with a handful of customer reviews, it is more factually valid than a decades-spanning non-profit industry-recognized organization that specializes in measuring specific reliability issues with cars." -turnne

Please go troll elsewhere.

 

[turnne]

"Here is this random review site with a handful of customer reviews, it is more factually valid than a decades-spanning non-profit industry-recognized organization that specializes in measuring reliability issues with cars." -turnne

Please go troll elsewhere.

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You cant prove your point.....and children have tantrums...



Warren

 

[Backslack]

Translated

You cant prove your point.....and children have tantrums...

Covering your ears and pretending that something credible is fraudulent because it doesn't validate your biases doesn't win you arguments or elections. It's also what children do when throwing tantrums.

 

[turnne]

Covering your ears and pretending that something is fraudulent because it doesn't validate your biases doesn't win you arguments or elections.

Again

I am still waiting on the "hundreds if not thousands" of owners ....

Still waiting on those facts.........

Warren

 

[Backslack]

Again

I am still waiting on the "hundreds if not thousands" of owners ....

Still waiting on those facts.........

Consumer Reports: Lexus has most reliable car of 2022, Tesla has 'problems'

Consumer Reports released its annual Auto Reliability Report, showing the most reliable new trucks, SUVs and cars of 2022.

www.usatoday.com

The Consumer Reports rankings reflect the magazine's predictions of 2021 model-year reliability based on an assessment of recent vehicle performance data reported by more than 300,000 car owners.

Now find me the "many more places to look that mirror Edmunds" like your promised.

 

[turnne]

Consumer Reports: Lexus has most reliable car of 2022, Tesla has 'problems'

Consumer Reports released its annual Auto Reliability Report, showing the most reliable new trucks, SUVs and cars of 2022.

www.usatoday.com

Now find me the "many more places to look that mirror Edmunds" like your promised.

LMFAO...you are funny

You ever hear the statement " the devil is in the details"?

I am still waiting for those "hundreds if not thousands" of LS500 owner's reporting

I am still waiting for those facts....

Those 300,000 people were driving all the cars they surveyed

Should I link ( and count) ALL THE VEHICHLES that Edmunds has review data on

Is it relevant to a LS500.....LMFAO......

Warren

 

[Backslack]

Oh, so you CAN'T find the "many more places" like Edmunds as you originally claimed and continue in your feeble attempts to discredit Consumer Reports. Thanks for proving my point. A certain ex-president would welcome you on his legal team.

Should I link ( and count) ALL THE VEHICHLES that Edmunds has review data on

Yes please, be sure to also include the relevant portions that measure reliability for the fuel system, engine components, brakes, body integrity, and so on like the criteria established in Consumer Reports. Oh wait... where are those on Edmunds?