5.0 vs. 3.8 decision again

[Ernie3647]

Hyundai says this:

The suspension in the V6 models is not electronically adjustable.

Some how Blue Link never got that news.

 

[Nikgen]

Some how Blue Link never got that news.

Pretty funny - they appear to just use a generic monthly vehicle report - no mention if the H-trac AWD is good in those either . The i-phone app doesn't even color code systems as green if they're OK (have not had anything go bad yet, so not sure they turn red either?)

 

[joeyz400]

Bottom line is, where will you be driving? Do you encounter frequent snow and ice? Then AWD is a better choice and you really dont give up much performance. AWD puts the power down and handles well. If you are in warmer climates go for the 5.0, nothing beats displacement.... I think Mot Blue w/ Ivory is an excellent combo. I wish I went for that myself.

 

[amartz]

If you choose the 5.0 you can always drive it "like" the 3.8. If you choose the 3.8 you can't drive it like the 5.0.

I think I could disagree with that statement!

 

[parpi]

The 3.8 is more than adequate in terms of power as it is I am exceeding the speed limit without noticing. The main reason for me to go with the V8 in the US would be the 19 inch wheels and to lesser extent the fog lights. They just suit the car better. Too bad they don't offer them as an added option...

 

[15GenesisAWD]

Lexus GS received high marks on *sport* factor for a car that had barely over 300 hp on almost 4000 lb car and it only had 6 sp auto for awd. And I believe it had alot to do with its 6 sp auto. It almost always knew exactly which gear it needed to be in and it kicked down with such authority when needed.

I think what genesis needs is not necessary 5.0 but a sporty transimission. There are so many times when I am merging into faster lane, I think it would be easy but ends up taking way too long to gain speed when my GS would do it much much easier. I think V8 would have helped, but it would have masked the problem rather than fixing it, meaning if GS with its 6 sp can be sporty, Genesis with 8 sp can be too. Hyundai should just use 8 sp that BMWs or Audis use rather than keep using their subpar ones made in house for their high end cars until they can make a decent one.

 

[UmALum1990]

I had a 2012 4.6. I now have a 2015 with the 3.8. I prefer driving the 3.8 more. I do not notice much of a difference in terms of the power, but being that the car is lighter, and the new suspension on the 2015, the car drives much better. I am happy and do not miss the V8. The one thing I do miss is the 17 speaker Sound System. It is better that the 14 speaker, hands down. Having said that, the 14 speaker is not bad. Anyhow, although you had a V8, driver them one after another again and pay attention to the subtle differences of the ride, not just V8 vs V6 power. You may be surprised.

 

[quanva]

i would actually if possible hold off until the 2016's are open for orders, june i assume.. I accept my V6, I would have preferred a turbo or SC 6. this car needs about 340-360

 

[Aquineas]

Hyundai should just use 8 sp that BMWs or Audis use rather than keep using their subpar ones made in house for their high end cars until they can make a decent one.

They did that until 2012; prior to 2012 Hyundai sourced the ZF 8 speed. In 2012 they switched to their in-house unit. Having owned both, honestly the Hyundai built 8 speed in my 2012 feels smoother than the ZF 8 speed I had in my 2010. I got the distinct impression that my 2010 was headed for future transmission problems, but that was likely specific to my unit.

In any case, I believe it's a tuning and gearing issue more than anything. I believe they made a choice to go with fuel economy (remember the weight of the vehicle) and transmission preservation over performance.

 

[jimb100]

Can someone explain the different suspension systems mentioned above? What does the electronic suspension system do differently? Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

My understanding is that the electronic suspension has a variable and electronically controlled orifice in the shock. The cars computer takes into account a variety of sensor inputs and adjusts the orifice to provide more or less oil flow, thus adjusting the amount of damping the shocks provide.

Its an electro-mechanical alternative to the magnetic shocks currently available on cars sold by Ferrari, GM and, I think, a couple of other mfgs.

As far as 3.8 vs 5.0 - If you really can't tell much difference in your style of driving between the 3.8 and 5.0 you have no need for the 5.0. Also, there is no huge difference in handling between the 3.8 and 5.0 due to weight.

With the 5.0 perhaps 175 pounds is in the engine and the rest of the weight difference (225 pounds) is spread out in the wheels, tires, panoramic roof, electronics, etc. The biggest difference in handling comes from the electronic dampers. If you don't like the way they work, that's personal preference, but the car doesn't handle "better" with the base suspension. Roll resistance is improved with the electronic dampers, as is skidpad grip when combined with the bigger wheels and tires.

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[DFWGenny]

If you were happy with the 3.8 and you had a 5.0, I think you have answered your own question. Foglights can be added to a 3.8, but it is a cludge. Same with wheels.

Color, both exterior and interior is something that you will look at every day and cannot be changed.

It all depends on how you drive and what you want out of the car. For me, I haven't regretted buying the 3.8.

 

[bnajack]

I would be happier with either engine. Both have their + and -. I chose the 5.0 because it was in dealer stock and they agreed to $1K under invoice. Going with a 3.8 would have required getting it from another dealer and they would only sell it at $200 under invoice.

 

[scottdk]

They did that until 2012; prior to 2012 Hyundai sourced the ZF 8 speed. In 2012 they switched to their in-house unit. Having owned both, honestly the Hyundai built 8 speed in my 2012 feels smoother than the ZF 8 speed I had in my 2010. I got the distinct impression that my 2010 was headed for future transmission problems, but that was likely specific to my unit.

In any case, I believe it's a tuning and gearing issue more than anything. I believe they made a choice to go with fuel economy (remember the weight of the vehicle) and transmission preservation over performance.

Hyundai sourced the ZF 6 speed and not an 8 speed from 2009-2011 prior to their in house built 8 speed.

 

[Aquineas]

Hyundai sourced the ZF 6 speed and not an 8 speed from 2009-2011 prior to their in house built 8 speed.

You're right it was the 6 speed, my bad.

 

[suggi]

I think the v6 and v8 aim to be different type of cars.
V6 is light and pleasant whereas the v8 is more calm and relaxing vehicle. For me it would come down to what type of car you'd want for the 80% of your 6+ year ownership..

 

[ferrethouse]

I test drove a V6 and it felt slow to me. I had a previous gen 4.6 so maybe that is why. If the V6 felt fast to you then it is probably more than enough. If AWD wasn't an option on the V8 here in Canada I would have got the AWD V6.

 

[irvingtondad]

sorry about your accident, totaled is better in the long run, I went from a 2012 5.0 to 2015 3.8 because I wanted to awd, don't feel like I am missing a thing, good luck with the new one

 

[irvingtondad]

even though I love my 2015, I am jealous of our northern neighbors ability to get the 5.0 awd. how much more difficult would it have been for hyundai to send some of those to cold weather states? smh

 

[Bernster]

I really appreciate the 5.0 power when getting on I-95 in South Florida. The entrance ramp i often use and adjacent lane turns into the exit ramp for another expressway so I have to get over to the left quickly. Using turn signals is often not sufficient because South Florida drivers are either oblivious or intentionally ignore you. So I often have to get assertive and the V8 is really a powerful way to do that.

The whole driving experience with the V8 is superb.

 

[Alwaysforward]

I really appreciate the 5.0 power when getting on I-95 in South Florida. The entrance ramp i often use and adjacent lane turns into the exit ramp for another expressway so I have to get over to the left quickly. Using turn signals is often not sufficient because South Florida drivers are either oblivious or intentionally ignore you. So I often have to get assertive and the V8 is really a powerful way to do that.

The whole driving experience with the V8 is superb.

I agree 100%. In South Florida when people see a turn signal they don't say to themselves "I need to slow down and let that person in", they instantly hit the gas to close up the gap so you cannot get in.

You are much better off to start making your turn (with the exceptional acceleration of the V8) prior to turning on the turn signals if not in parallel.