5.0 vs. 3.8 decision again

[UmALum1990]

This is hilarious. I to live in SoFl and it is brutal, Palmetto, Dolphin, I-95, US-1; it does not matter! Turn signals simply mean "close the gap!"

 

[Midnightsun]

I agree 100%. In South Florida when people see a turn signal they don't say to themselves "I need to slow down and let that person in", they instantly hit the gas to close up the gap so you cannot get in.

You are much better off to start making your turn (with the exceptional acceleration of the V8) prior to turning on the turn signals if not in parallel.

I did not know there were so many snowbirds down there as that is exactly how they drive here.

The biggest difference between the 6 and 8 is you just give a little gas and the 8 scoots right along with no effort whatsoever. The 6 needs to down shift and get the revs up to to accomplish the same thing. I call the V8 "effortless power".

 

[jimb100]

I did not know there were so many snowbirds down there as that is exactly how they drive here.

The biggest difference between the 6 and 8 is you just give a little gas and the 8 scoots right along with no effort whatsoever. The 6 needs to down shift and get the revs up to to accomplish the same thing. I call the V8 "effortless power".

You would think the drivers here in Florida would be mellow, living in the Sunshine State, and all. But they are as bad or worse than NY, PA, Il, etc.

V6 owners keep insisting that motor is just fine and it may be but the V8 is so much better and no amount of insisting will change that.

I drove the V6 several times and found it to be barely adequate to move a 4200 lb car on roads with aggressive drivers.

On the other hand, when driving the V6 I wanted another 100 HP. I have the 5.0 and I still want another 100 HP.

 

[B.P.]

You would think the drivers here in Florida would be mellow, living in the Sunshine State, and all. But they are as bad or worse than NY, PA, Il, etc.

V6 owners keep insisting that motor is just fine and it may be but the V8 is so much better and no amount of insisting will change that.

I drove the V6 several times and found it to be barely adequate to move a 4200 lb car on roads with aggressive drivers.

On the other hand, when driving the V6 I wanted another 100 HP. I have the 5.0 and I still want another 100 HP.

So I have plans to leave for Tampa-St Pete on Thursday, driving my barely adequate, 311 hp V6. Now considering staying away from FL for fear of being run over by an aggressive, blue haired OAP in her Mercury Gran Marquis at an Interstate on ramp! If I stay home I might be able to, almost, hold my own on the LIE, Taconic, Garden State, and other scenic, leisurely byways around here where drivers are more mellow and friendly.

 

[PaFromFL]

I finally hit the 600 mile mark today and tested the performance of my V6. It has more than enough power for Central Florida purposes. It sounds pretty good for a V6 and will let me drive further between fillups.

 

[jimb100]

So I have plans to leave for Tampa-St Pete on Thursday, driving my barely adequate, 311 hp V6. Now considering staying away from FL for fear of being run over by an aggressive, blue haired OAP in her Mercury Gran Marquis at an Interstate on ramp! If I stay home I might be able to, almost, hold my own on the LIE, Taconic, Garden State, and other scenic, leisurely byways around here where drivers are more mellow and friendly.

If you don't own the 5.0, you don't get it.

 

[Nikgen]

If you don't own the 5.0, you don't get it.

Yawn... Your endless put downs of the V6 are getting a little old. Clearly for the majority of Genesis owners the V6 is more than adequate. In fact, for many of us in the US snowbelt areas, the V6 AWD is a better choice to the V8 RWD. The additional touches like heated steering wheel and heated rear seats are really handy with cold weather like we're experiencing this year as well - but if you don't own a V6 AWD, you don't get it either... Just enjoy your V8, but realize that most people don't want one. That fact seems too much for you to handle...

 

[jimb100]

Yawn... Your endless put downs of the V6 are getting a little old. Clearly for the majority of Genesis owners the V6 is more than adequate. In fact, for many of us in the US snowbelt areas, the V6 AWD is a better choice to the V8 RWD. The additional touches like heated steering wheel and heated rear seats are really handy with cold weather like we're experiencing this year as well - but if you don't own a V6 AWD, you don't get it either... Just enjoy your V8, but realize that most people don't want one. That fact seems too much for you to handle...

Awfully defensive aren't you?

Anyone in snow areas who want AWD, well... you don't have much choice. Anyone not interested in performance, a margin of safety when passing or merging or simply enjoying effortless acceleration, then the V6 is fine.

But to say that the V6 is more than enough HP for a 4200 lb car is true for some people but certainly not everyone. Its certainly not 'overpowered' as some here have suggested.

Actually, outside of AWD, for the sake of a couple of miles per gallon, I don't see why anyone wouldn't want the V8. Where's the downside to having more power on reserve?

If you tell me the V8 puts it out of your price range or the couple of MPGs really makes a difference (surely less important now that the price of gas has gone down), why choose the lesser engine?

Especially when the V8 comes with the suspension upgrade which really improves the ride in all situations.

And don't bother telling me that the magazine reviewers like the V6. My guess is Hyundai doesn't make as much money on the V8 cars and the reviewers/shills reflect that.

 

[Alwaysforward]

You would think the drivers here in Florida would be mellow, living in the Sunshine State, and all. But they are as bad or worse than NY, PA, Il, etc.QUOTE]

Most of those are out of towners. Snowbirds. The herd thins out around May as they head back north. The restaurants are no longer crowded, you don't have to wait in lines at the banks and grocery stores. When I retire I will be spending my winters in Vail and summers here in paradise

 

[Nikgen]

Awfully defensive aren't you?

Anyone in snow areas who want AWD, well... you don't have much choice. Anyone not interested in performance, a margin of safety when passing or merging or simply enjoying effortless acceleration, then the V6 is fine.

But to say that the V6 is more than enough HP for a 4200 lb car is true for some people but certainly not everyone. Its certainly not 'overpowered' as some here have suggested.

Actually, outside of AWD, for the sake of a couple of miles per gallon, I don't see why anyone wouldn't want the V8. Where's the downside to having more power on reserve?

If you tell me the V8 puts it out of your price range or the couple of MPGs really makes a difference (surely less important now that the price of gas has gone down), why choose the lesser engine?

Especially when the V8 comes with the suspension upgrade which really improves the ride in all situations.

And don't bother telling me that the magazine reviewers like the V6. My guess is Hyundai doesn't make as much money on the V8 cars and the reviewers/shills reflect that.

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[Nikgen]

Awfully defensive aren't you?

Anyone in snow areas who want AWD, well... you don't have much choice. Anyone not interested in performance, a margin of safety when passing or merging or simply enjoying effortless acceleration, then the V6 is fine.

But to say that the V6 is more than enough HP for a 4200 lb car is true for some people but certainly not everyone. Its certainly not 'overpowered' as some here have suggested.

Actually, outside of AWD, for the sake of a couple of miles per gallon, I don't see why anyone wouldn't want the V8. Where's the downside to having more power on reserve?

If you tell me the V8 puts it out of your price range or the couple of MPGs really makes a difference (surely less important now that the price of gas has gone down), why choose the lesser engine?

Especially when the V8 comes with the suspension upgrade which really improves the ride in all situations.

And don't bother telling me that the magazine reviewers like the V6. My guess is Hyundai doesn't make as much money on the V8 cars and the reviewers/shills reflect that.

You're the one who is defensive and seems to have to constantly tell everyone how much "better" the V8 is and suggest the V6 is underpowered to the point of almost not being safe! The V6 has more than enough power to provide a satisfying and safe driving experience (and I've never seen anyone say the V6 is overpowered as you claim). As we've said many times, we get that the V8 has more power, but your comments on the V6 shows your ignorance. Lol, you're arrogant and delusional and I'm done with you. Have a nice life!

 

[B.P.]

If you don't own the 5.0, you don't get it.

If you've never owned a '66 Chevelle SS 396, '01 Yahama FZ1, '10 Mustang GT, you don't get it. My testicles trump your testicles. Ridiculous argument.

 

[Ernie3647]

I’ve been sitting on the sidelines monitoring these ridicules rants in not just this but multiple threads on exactly the same topic. Most people who have the V6 are satisfied with it. The most objections come from V8 owners who don’t or can’t understand why anybody would choose the V6. Everybody has their own criteria on their needs and expectations. The factors that govern this decision are unique to each person. There is no right or wrong choice because if there is shame on that poster for not adequately verifying their decision. Posters trying to introduce controversy and sarcasm as a form acknowledgement are nothing new here and should be apparent to all by now.

 

[jimb100]

You're the one who is defensive and seems to have to constantly tell everyone how much "better" the V8 is and suggest the V6 is underpowered to the point of almost not being safe! The V6 has more than enough power to provide a satisfying and safe driving experience (and I've never seen anyone say the V6 is overpowered as you claim). As we've said many times, we get that the V8 has more power, but your comments on the V6 shows your ignorance. Lol, you're arrogant and delusional and I'm done with you. Have a nice life!

There's no "arrogance" involved and certainly no delusions.

The V8 is better. That's why its an upgrade. If you think the V6 is "better" wouldn't Hyundai charge LESS for the V8. That should be pretty obvious, even to you. LOL.

No one said the V6 is unsafe. But clearly, the V8 offers an extra margin of safety by having acceleration in reserve for passing and merging.

I don't see how anyone can deny these obvious facts. Yet you claim I'm the one who is ignorant. What a joke.

Here, I'll make it very clear. If you bought the V6 you saved some money and you get better gas mileage, by a few MPGs. You don't care about improved acceleration or power for passing and merging or the improved ride that comes with the electronic suspension.

Trying to marginalize the V8 by saying its benefits don't matter may make you feel better about buying the V6 but it makes no sense. You bought a Genesis with a V6 accept that you don't want or need to enjoy the benefits the V8 provides.

But don't try to tear down the V8 to make yourself feel better about the choice.

 

[Nikgen]

There's no "arrogance" involved and certainly no delusions.

The V8 is better. That's why its an upgrade. If you think the V6 is "better" wouldn't Hyundai charge LESS for the V8. That should be pretty obvious, even to you. LOL.

No one said the V6 is unsafe. But clearly, the V8 offers an extra margin of safety by having acceleration in reserve for passing and merging.

I don't see how anyone can deny these obvious facts. Yet you claim I'm the one who is ignorant. What a joke.

Here, I'll make it very clear. If you bought the V6 you saved some money and you get better gas mileage, by a few MPGs. You don't care about improved acceleration or power for passing and merging or the improved ride that comes with the electronic suspension.

Trying to marginalize the V8 by saying its benefits don't matter may make you feel better about buying the V6 but it makes no sense. You bought a Genesis with a V6 accept that you don't want or need to enjoy the benefits the V8 provides.

But don't try to tear down the V8 to make yourself feel better about the choice.

Where did I tear down the V8? I'm only defending your continued derision of the V6.

BTW - I didn't buy the V6 to save money and get better mpg. I bought the V6 as the AWD, heated steering wheel and heated rear seats appealed to me living in the cold and snowy NE.

I did test drive both the V8 and V6 and felt the V6 had good power (and have not been let down) and actually preferred the ride on the 18 inch wheels over the 19's on our potholed roads here in NJ - While I certainly noted more power on tap in the V8 if pushed - in "normal" driving, I didn't feel much difference. In addition, I honestly didn't notice any improvement in ride with the V8's electronic suspension. Maybe if pushed hard, one would notice - but if I wanted to push my car hard, I would have bought a real sports sedan and not the Genesis.

 

[Monolith2001]

There's no "arrogance" involved and certainly no delusions.

The V8 is better. That's why its an upgrade. If you think the V6 is "better" wouldn't Hyundai charge LESS for the V8. That should be pretty obvious, even to you. LOL.

No one said the V6 is unsafe. But clearly, the V8 offers an extra margin of safety by having acceleration in reserve for passing and merging.

I don't see how anyone can deny these obvious facts. Yet you claim I'm the one who is ignorant. What a joke.

Here, I'll make it very clear. If you bought the V6 you saved some money and you get better gas mileage, by a few MPGs. You don't care about improved acceleration or power for passing and merging or the improved ride that comes with the electronic suspension.

Trying to marginalize the V8 by saying its benefits don't matter may make you feel better about buying the V6 but it makes no sense. You bought a Genesis with a V6 accept that you don't want or need to enjoy the benefits the V8 provides.

But don't try to tear down the V8 to make yourself feel better about the choice.

This has been a very entertaining thread in a twisted kind of way. The V8 is better if you favor the smoother more effortless power it brings. The V6 is better if you want to save money, fuel and have a vehicle that will excel in 99% of road situations. If you spend a lot of time on super short merges that extra second of acceleration to speed might be more meaningful to you. My V6 has never struggled to pass anyone or merge but I would agree that the V8 might only need 80% throttle where I need to floor it. Any pass above what the V6 is capable of is likely a pretty risky pass or merge with either car. It's not like the V8 turns the car into an M5 or E63 AMG.

The V8 costs more because it has more parts and people have been marketed to that bigger is better. I'might have one if I didn't care about the extra cost and fuel but I would not be under the illusion that the real world power difference is transformative beyond the seat of my pants.

In the end, people bought the engine and trim they wanted for the price they wanted. As a V6 owner I am very pleased with its performance and I'm a guy who loves performance (why I've owned sportbikes for the past 15 years). I don't feel I'm missing much of anything with the V6 but clearly you need the V8 and that's okay.

 

[ferrethouse]

It's not like the V8 turns the car into an M5 or E63 AMG.

It is true that the jump from a 40k car to a 50k car doesn't turn it into a 95k car.

Still 50k for a 420 HP luxury car is pretty insane.

 

[Monolith2001]

It is true that the jump from a 40k car to a 50k car doesn't turn it into a 95k car.

Still 50k for a 420 HP luxury car is pretty insane.

Oh it's fantastic value but I wasn't comparing price, just saying that the it doesn't become a sub 4-second car where you would be in a whole different class of real world acceleration than the V6.

From what I've seen, V6's run 60's between 6.2 and 6.4 (for AWD) and V8's between 5.2 and 5.4. The V8 will kick the quarter 102-104mph (5-7 mph) faster than the V6 and a second sooner. Those aren't slouch numbers for either but the V8 is not otherworldly fast like said 100K cars that do 3.6 to 60 and 1/4 traps over 120mph where you'd see massive real world differences. Just saying that there would be rare instances where you'd merge or pass with the V8 that you couldn't in the V6 without being reckless.

 

[jimb100]

Where did I tear down the V8? I'm only defending your continued derision of the V6.

BTW - I didn't buy the V6 to save money and get better mpg. I bought the V6 as the AWD, heated steering wheel and heated rear seats appealed to me living in the cold and snowy NE.

I did test drive both the V8 and V6 and felt the V6 had good power (and have not been let down) and actually preferred the ride on the 18 inch wheels over the 19's on our potholed roads here in NJ - While I certainly noted more power on tap in the V8 if pushed - in "normal" driving, I didn't feel much difference. In addition, I honestly didn't notice any improvement in ride with the V8's electronic suspension. Maybe if pushed hard, one would notice - but if I wanted to push my car hard, I would have bought a real sports sedan and not the Genesis.

You said you would not respond. What else have you been lying about? Lol!

 

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