Add Xenon headlights?

[Disaster]

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Go to DDMtuning.com

Click on HID kits (actually, the $50 is right now on the main page under the title "DDM HID KIT SLIM BALLAST (35W OR 55W)")

Click on "DDM HID KIT SLIM BALLAST (35W OR 55W)" Note it says "$49.95" with $70 lined out.

Leave "wattage" at "35 Watt"
Change "bulb type" to "H11"
Change "bulb color" to "4500K" if you want brightest bulb.

Click "Add to Cart" and check out.

 

[Sayantsi]

I have the HID for the low beams as part of the V6 Full Tech package and I would like to install HID for the High beams. Any thoughts, guidance, instructions, difficulties as compared to the low beams shown on the other thread by Sayantsi?

Don, someone else did install HIDs in the high beams - I'm not sure if there are instructions, just impressions. The thread is in the Electronics forum I believe, but I can't find it - I think it was posted by jonah.

 

[scottdk]

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Thanks D

 

[6789]

I did not have to install relays. With a quality HID kit, you don't need them from what I've experienced and read here, unless you want to add HID fog lights, then, maybe you do. The Genesis has a huge battery so power shouldn't be an issue. You just have to be careful wher you get your kit -eBay specials are a gamble due to poor quality control, so you want a kit with a lifetime warranty from a company with some sort of reputation. This is why I went with DDM in my original thread - it has been supplying kits to BMW and sportbike owners for years with good local support.

For each set of lights, you would need a kit. So, if you want HID low beams, high beams, and fog lights, that would be three kits. You essentially need to add the electronics necessary to raise the light voltage for HIDs. HIDs don't work well as high beams because they need a moment to brighten up, and frequently turning them on and off shortens their lives - HIDs work best when they are on and left on, but these days the bulbs can be replaced cheaply.

There is an HID bulb that has a motorized shield - this is used in mainly German cars to adjust the beam of light for high and low and utilizes a single beam. This is nice because the HID is always on and you just change its area of effect. More elegant a solution and you get HIDs for high beams, but more expensive and not even an option on our Genesis.

Someone here added HIDs to his high beams, but did not recommend it for others due to the characteristics of HIDs and the level of effort required. I know other people that have done similar, with the same opinions. personally I don't see much point in HID foglights - foglights are supposed to be low intensity, short range, peripheral lights for low speed driving. I would consider some HID driving lights however, and mount them in the lower grill.

Regarding "Someone here added HIDs to his high beams, but did not recommend it for others due to the characteristics of HIDs,"
what characteristics are problematic?

I would like to convert my 3.8 headlights to Xenons using
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W

 

[6789]

Go to DDMtuning.com

Click on HID kits (actually, the $50 is right now on the main page under the title "DDM HID KIT SLIM BALLAST (35W OR 55W)")

Click on "DDM HID KIT SLIM BALLAST (35W OR 55W)" Note it says "$49.95" with $70 lined out.

Leave "wattage" at "35 Watt"
Change "bulb type" to "H11"
Change "bulb color" to "4500K" if you want brightest bulb.

Click "Add to Cart" and check out.

Disaster:
Are the following suggestions accurate for a 2009 Genesis sedan?

"Leave "wattage" at "35 Watt"
Change "bulb type" to "H11"

 

[6789]

I did not have to install relays.

For each set of lights, you would need a kit. So, if you want HID low beams, high beams, and fog lights, that would be three kits. You essentially need to add the electronics necessary to raise the light voltage for HIDs."

Sayantsi:
How much time required for installation?

 

[Disaster]

Regarding "Someone here added HIDs to his high beams, but did not recommend it for others due to the characteristics of HIDs,"
what characteristics are problematic?

I would like to convert my 3.8 headlights to Xenons using
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-HID-Kit-Slim-Ballast-35W-or-55W

The high beams don't use a projector housing. They use a reflector housing that is optimized for halogen. There are two problems with installing an HID in these housing.

1. HID's take time to warm up and there lifetime is shortened by multiple cycles. High beams are typically turned off and on...sometimes hundreds of times during a trip. If they were HID they wouldn't reach full brightness when you first switched them on...and they would have to reenergize each time you used them. They would not last as long as low beams that stay on.

2. The reflector housing is all wrong for location of the lighting element and the beam pattern would be terrible. It would be "hot" in some areas, dark in others, and throw lots of light and glare where it shouldn't.

Disaster:
Are the following suggestions accurate for a 2009 Genesis sedan?

"Leave "wattage" at "35 Watt"
Change "bulb type" to "H11"

Yes. Make sure you get a smaller digital controller so it can package inside the light assembly. Otherwise you will have to mount the kit outside the light and cut holes for wiring.

 

[Sayantsi]

I did not have to install relays.

For each set of lights, you would need a kit. So, if you want HID low beams, high beams, and fog lights, that would be three kits. You essentially need to add the electronics necessary to raise the light voltage for HIDs."

Sayantsi:
How much time required for installation?

It took me around 2 hours to figure things out and cut holes for my wiring for the DIY i wrote up, but if you place everything inside the light housing like Disaster says, you could do it in one hour. The lights are basically plug and play - you just need to get to them.

 

[6789]

The high beams don't use a projector housing. They use a reflector housing that is optimized for halogen. There are two problems with installing an HID in these housing.

Yes. Make sure you get a smaller digital controller so it can package inside the light assembly. Otherwise you will have to mount the kit outside the light and cut holes for wiring.

OK, so I should _not_ have HIDs installed on 2009 Genesis sedan for hi beams? I hoped to get both low and high beam Xenons installed for safety during night driving.....

 

[radicaltimes]

I know most of you guys love your HID headlights, however I am not a fan of them.
Yes, my Genesis has them, plus my former 07 Lincoln had them, and although I often take long trips driving all night, I just have not found any advantage of the HID lights compared to QI lights. My 02 Continental has the QI bulbs, and yes, they are slightly different "color" than the HID's, but IMHO, the HID is no better. People are putting too much stock in the fact that HID's are "whiter" than QI lamps, (which themselves are whiter than the old "Sealed Beam" headlights). Whiter does not mean seeing better.
Also, much easier changing out a QI bulb than a HID bulb.

Before 2001 or 2002, all headlights in France were YELLOW. I drove all over Europe with yellow headlights, and never had problems seeing. (Now with a Unified Europe, all EU countries must have the same laws, so France switched to White headlights, as well as adopting the Euro).

What is a Q1 bulb?

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[waveman]

OK, so I should _not_ have HIDs installed on 2009 Genesis sedan for hi beams? I hoped to get both low and high beam Xenons installed for safety during night driving.....

I've been wondering the same thing so I did some online research today. From what I've read, there is pretty good evidence that HIDs offer several advantages that improve safety, including higher light output, longer life, and tighter focusing. On the downside, they cause more glare than tungsten filament or quartz-iodine (halogen) lamps.

Also, as Disaster pointed out, HIDs take some time to ramp up, and they wear more quickly when cycled repeatedly, which is what happens with high beams. I'd be interested to know how people who've installed HID low and high beams have gotten around this limitation.