Adjust the electronically controlled suspension on your Genesis GV60

[Sal Collaziano]

Mando ECS10 Suspension Control

Plug ‘n play device for the Kia Stinger, Genesis G70 and Genesis G80 with an Electronically Controlled Suspension. Stock damping force is set at only 60% of what the suspension can use. This module allows you to use 100% – even on “uneven” roads. It automatically detects the damping pressure.

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If your GV60 came with the ECS (electronically controlled suspension) system - which is made by Mando - you can further adjust your suspension exactly the way you want it with the Mando ECS-10 Suspension Control Unit.

"I just installed the Mando controller on my G70. I just ran the default Sport and Comfort mode and I'm amazed at how good it is. The sport setting feels much "sportier" then the stock setting, yet also seems more comfortable. I can't understand why the car wasn't programmed this way from the factory." (review from the Stinger forum)

If your GV60 does not already have an electronically controlled suspension (ECS) system, the Mando ECS10 unit will not work with your vehicle.

Stock damping force is set at only 60% of what the suspension can use. This module allows you to use 100% – even on “uneven” roads. It automatically detects the damping pressure. Damping force can be adjusted according to your taste.

When set for comfort, the ride will be more comfortable than without the module. When sport mode is set, the ride will be firmer than possible without the module. When set to 100% firm, it becomes very firm.

 

[azurecardinal]

Mando ECS10 Suspension Control

Plug ‘n play device for the Kia Stinger, Genesis G70 and Genesis G80 with an Electronically Controlled Suspension. Stock damping force is set at only 60% of what the suspension can use. This module allows you to use 100% – even on “uneven” roads. It automatically detects the damping pressure.

kdmwarehouse.com

If your G80 came with the ECS (electronically controlled suspension) system - which is made by Mando - you can further adjust your suspension exactly the way you want it with the Mando ECS-10 Suspension Control Unit.



If your GV60 does not already have an electronically controlled suspension (ECS) system, the Mando ECS10 unit will not work with your vehicle.

Stock damping force is set at only 60% of what the suspension can use. This module allows you to use 100% – even on “uneven” roads. It automatically detects the damping pressure. Damping force can be adjusted according to your taste.

When set for comfort, the ride will be more comfortable than without the module. When sport mode is set, the ride will be firmer than possible without the module. When set to 100% firm, it becomes very firm.

Lol that's amazing and hilarious at the same time! Will any other GV60 owners give this a test run and report back how well it works?

Thanks for sharing Sal!

Edit: It's much cheaper on eBay

 

[wolverine]

Wonder if the dealers can detect this being installed and if they might try to deny any warranty claims related to the suspension or electronics.

Have an aftermarket air suspension module on my Porsche Macan which enables me to adjust the height of the car via a smartphone app, and I can turn it off so PIWIS can't see it (PIWIS is the factory developed diagnostic and repair tool that Porsche dealer technicians use to perform a multitude of diagnostic and repair functions). I assume Hyundai and it's sister brands have something similar.

 

[Looney100]

Wonder if the dealers can detect this being installed and if they might try to deny any warranty claims related to the suspension or electronics.

It appears that the unit would read, reinterpret, and/or resend data in real time, rather than reprogram anything. Therefore, I’d think that simply disconnecting/disabling the unit if/when the car was brought in for service would be enough to prevent detection.

 

[Looney100]

I have no idea what the suspensions are like in the other vehicles, but I don’t see a lot of room for improvement in the GV60’s. It is very comfortable when it’s supposed to be, and the sport mode stiffens things up enough to meet the needs and expectations for the type of spirited driving likely to be done in a crossover.
If you want more from the suspension than Sport mode can provide, you’ve bought the wrong car.

 

[jeff585]

It appears that the unit would read, reinterpret, and/or resend data in real time, rather than reprogram anything. Therefore, I’d think that simply disconnecting/disabling the unit if/when the car was brought in for service would be enough to prevent detection.

Difficult to say without reading the actual installation instructions, but based on the photos supplied it appears it would take more than a few minutes to disconnect it each time you take the car in for service.

As for detection, sounds like it supplies commands to the suspension outside the expected range, and that could very well set error codes repeatedly that the dealer tech would see when they run diagnostics. And if they started to trace down the problem they no doubt would eventually find the controller.

Then again if you were not having other issues with the suspension or electronics, probably no harm done unless the dealer wants to get pissy and wants to charge you for their diagnostic time.

 

[wolverine]

I have no idea what the suspensions are like in the other vehicles, but I don’t see a lot of room for improvement in the GV60’s. It is very comfortable when it’s supposed to be, and the sport mode stiffens things up enough to meet the needs and expectations for the type of spirited driving likely to be done in a crossover.
If you want more from the suspension than Sport mode can provide, you’ve bought the wrong car.

I would think being able to dial in even more damping force than Sport Mode provides would be highly beneficial for those of us that prefer a sportier drive. While Sport Mode provides a definite improvement, even in Sport Mode the GV60 still wallows too much compared to something like an X3 or Q5, much less the Macan.

The GV60 just does not have good body control. Granted the GV60 is penalized with the heavy battery, but there is certainly room for handling improvement. I also suspect the GV60 would benefit from sportier tires versus the standard touring grade Michelins. In fact IIRC there are one or two people here that mentioned switching over to Michelin Pilots with significant handling improvement.

While you may have little interest in improving the handling (and you likely represent the average owner in this respect), there are some of us that would like improved handling to complement what is a very fast crossover.

 

[Dan H]

I would think being able to dial in even more damping force than Sport Mode provides would be highly beneficial for those of us that prefer a sportier drive. While Sport Mode provides a definite improvement, even in Sport Mode the GV60 still wallows too much compared to something like an X3 or Q5, much less the Macan.

The GV60 just does not have good body control. Granted the GV60 is penalized with the heavy battery, but there is certainly room for handling improvement. I also suspect the GV60 would benefit from sportier tires versus the standard touring grade Michelins. In fact IIRC there are one or two people here that mentioned switching over to Michelin Pilots with significant handling improvement.

While you may have little interest in improving the handling (and you likely represent the average owner in this respect), there are some of us that would like improved handling to complement what is a very fast crossover.

Well said, and I would add being able to adjust the damping on the fly based on road conditions and type of driving being done would be a big plus.

 

[Looney100]

I would think being able to dial in even more damping force than Sport Mode provides would be highly beneficial for those of us that prefer a sportier drive. While Sport Mode provides a definite improvement, even in Sport Mode the GV60 still wallows too much compared to something like an X3 or Q5, much less the Macan.

The GV60 just does not have good body control. Granted the GV60 is penalized with the heavy battery, but there is certainly room for handling improvement. I also suspect the GV60 would benefit from sportier tires versus the standard touring grade Michelins. In fact IIRC there are one or two people here that mentioned switching over to Michelin Pilots with significant handling improvement.

While you may have little interest in improving the handling (and you likely represent the average owner in this respect), there are some of us that would like improved handling to complement what is a very fast crossover.

I disagree with nothing that you've stated here.

I'm am certainly a performance-focused owner/driver - having owned many performance vehicles and regularly driving on track. I'm just more in the camp of using the right tool for the job, and think that the GV60 suspension executes its purpose very well. Even though I may, occasionally smack something with the handle of a screwdriver, I'm not going to complain that it's hammer-like attributes could be improved. (@EdP , insert witticism here)

When I want to drive sportily, I head to the track, hop in the go kart and take a few turns at ~2Gs - or do some sim racing when the weather is like it is now.

 

[steveinarizona]

I also suspect the GV60 would benefit from sportier tires versus the standard touring grade Michelins. In fact IIRC there are one or two people here that mentioned switching over to Michelin Pilots with significant handling improvement.

I am planning to replace the AS Michelin Primacy tires with Pilot 4S HL tires when the OEMs wear down. BUT...I am in almost always warm and dry Scottsdale and Looney is in Canada. So what works for me won't necessarily work for him and the reverse.

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[Looney100]

I am planning to replace the AS Michelin Primacy tires with Pilot 4S HL tires when the OEMs wear down. BUT...I am in almost always warm and dry Scottsdale and Looney is in Canada. So what works for me won't necessarily work for him and the reverse.

Regardless of how or what we drive, we can always benefit from improved traction. I haven't looked into details yet, but since I use a dedicated winter tire when it's cold, I could swap with either a summer-only or performance all-season for the warmer months. It's been a few years since I've needed to buy a summer tire, but the latest generation of performance all-season tires seem to provide 90% of the performance of a summer-only, with fewer compromises.

 

[Filbert]

If you want more from the suspension than Sport mode can provide, you’ve bought the wrong car.

I could not disagree more with such a statement. What's wrong with being interested in upgrading the suspension of your crossover/SUV to make the handling sportier? Sure, many if not most owners may have no interest, but it's not at all a surprise to hear that some owners of a crossover capable of sub 4 second 0-60 runs have interest in tweaking the handling.

 

[Dan H]

I could not disagree more with such a statement. What's wrong with being interested in upgrading the suspension of your crossover/SUV to make the handling sportier? Sure, many if not most owners may have no interest, but it's not at all a surprise to hear that some owners of a crossover capable of sub 4 second 0-60 runs have interest in tweaking the handling.

For sure. That's like saying anyone interested in modifying their car bought the wrong car.

 

[azurecardinal]

I could not disagree more with such a statement. What's wrong with being interested in upgrading the suspension of your crossover/SUV to make the handling sportier? Sure, many if not most owners may have no interest, but it's not at all a surprise to hear that some owners of a crossover capable of sub 4 second 0-60 runs have interest in tweaking the handling.

If would've been nice if Genesis gave us the ability to config full range of suspension dampening in "My Drive Mode"

 

[wolverine]

If would've been nice if Genesis gave us the ability to config full range of suspension dampening in "My Drive Mode"

Sure, one step up from Sport Mode would be "Race" Mode. Wait a second, doesn't the Alfa Stelvio Q4 have that? Would additional dampening put more stress on other suspension components?

 

[Looney100]

I could not disagree more with such a statement. What's wrong with being interested in upgrading the suspension of your crossover/SUV to make the handling sportier? Sure, many if not most owners may have no interest, but it's not at all a surprise to hear that some owners of a crossover capable of sub 4 second 0-60 runs have interest in tweaking the handling.

Okay, fair. I was being a little hyperbolic. I've done A LOT of modification in my past.

If spending a few bucks makes the car feel better to you and improves your driving experience, go for it. However, for those that may be seeking performance improvements, my experience has been that 90% of those that would consider themselves sporty/performance drivers have little ability to handle a car at >8/10 of what a vehicle can do. The existing setup is easily capable of doing absolutely fine at 8/10.

If you're driving your GV60 beyond that, 1) you're asking for trouble, regardless of what kind of suspension you have, and; 2) why the !@#$ are you doing that on public roads? 0% of us are tracking our GV60s.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Okay, fair. I was being a little hyperbolic. I've done A LOT of modification in my past.

If spending a few bucks makes the car feel better to you and improves your driving experience, go for it. However, for those that may be seeking performance improvements, my experience has been that 90% of those that would consider themselves sporty/performance drivers have little ability to handle a car at >8/10 of what a vehicle can do. The existing setup is easily capable of doing absolutely fine at 8/10.

If you're driving your GV60 beyond that, 1) you're asking for trouble, regardless of what kind of suspension you have, and; 2) why the !@#$ are you doing that on public roads? 0% of us are tracking our GV60s.

What if somebody wants to autocross in their GV60?

 

[Looney100]

What if somebody wants to autocross in their GV60?

Given the camera angle, it's tough to say what model of car that was, but it certainly didn't sound like a GV60.

 

[vexige]

The steering feedback in gv60 car is equal to a school bus, which makes the value of the suspension modifications only about "my suspension is modified" thingy. If someone is into "performance driving", this is not the car for you, although it is a perfect cruiser/commuter car. Unless the "racing/ performance driving" is a white knuckle straight line acceleration into triple digits for a 0.5 mile
Drove my RS5 today, so fun...

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Given the camera angle, it's tough to say what model of car that was, but it certainly didn't sound like a GV60.

It's a Genesis Coupe. It shows that in the title of the video. The GV60 is too new to have people posting autocrossing events on YouTube. I'm just saying - not everyone will use the improved performance on the street. And with the entirely few people who will ever even upgrade their GV60's suspension, perhaps it will be very rare that anyone tests the limits on the street. But modified or not, there will be people who do.