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At-home charging requirements?

Thanks. The electrician is working on an estimate to install a new plug in the garage, asking which type I would prefer. Sounds like it does not matter as far as the GV60 is concerned. So any reason I should choose one plug over the other?
majority of household 240V use 14-50, ie, if someday you want to use the outlet plug for something else, it would most likely need 14-50
 
majority of household 240V use 14-50, ie, if someday you want to use the outlet plug for something else, it would most likely need 14-50
That was my logic when I did mine.
 
Thanks. The electrician is working on an estimate to install a new plug in the garage, asking which type I would prefer. Sounds like it does not matter as far as the GV60 is concerned. So any reason I should choose one plug over the other?
We have 2 chargepoints (one at home and one at the lake). Not sure if this is relevant info for you, but the home one was $2,500 installed and the lake was $1,500. The units were $1,000 each and the difference is the electrical work. We have a panel in the garage at the lake so it was much cheaper. Also, if you are in Canada and they tell you the Chargepoint flex is backordered (it was a couple of weeks ago when we got ours), I found them online at London Drugs. I have nothing to compare the Chargepoint to, but we have a complete absence of issues and get the info we want, so we're happy. The one thing we don't like is that you can't have two chargers on the same app account. We have to have separate accounts for each charger.
 
Also, I am using Grizzle-e. It is much simpler than some others out there because with GV60, you don't need any fancy remote programming on the wall charger as you can do all that by scheduling your GV60. Therefore, it is much more durable with less components to break down.
Have a look at this reviews:

 
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Thanks...I am in the USA and found they are available on Amazon and an electrical online retailer. I have read good things about them, best of which they have the best cable in cold weather, so that was my reason towards leaning that way. Sounds like their app is decent also. I am going to try to get quotes going 6-50 as well as 14-50 to see what price difference is in the wiring work.
 
Also, I am using Grizzle-e. It is much simpler than some others out there because with GV60, you don't need any fancy remote programming on the wall charger as you can do all that by scheduling your GV60. Therefore, it is much more durable with less components to break down.
Have a look at this reviews:

I have the Grizzl-e Avalanche one like in the photo. Love it. Don't even have my car yet, but let my EV owner friends who visit to charge for free, since I am generating a metric crap ton of free solar power.
 
Thanks...I am in the USA and found they are available on Amazon and an electrical online retailer. I have read good things about them, best of which they have the best cable in cold weather, so that was my reason towards leaning that way. Sounds like their app is decent also. I am going to try to get quotes going 6-50 as well as 14-50 to see what price difference is in the wiring work.
There shouldn't be any price difference between 6-50 vs 14-50. There are price differences, however, on the quality and the material of the outlets, make sure you have a descent one - a good quality is worth the price for safety and protection of your house and car.
 
There shouldn't be any price difference between 6-50 vs 14-50. There are price differences, however, on the quality and the material of the outlets, make sure you have a descent one - a good quality is worth the price for safety and protection of your house and car.
Yes...I was referring to the price difference of running the 3-wire (6-50 plug) vs 4-wire (14-50 plug) from the box in the basement to the garage. I was told installation for 14-50 is more as it is a heavier, more costly cable and harder to install. As you said, the charger price is the same either way (although on Amazon, the 14-50 version seems to be more expensive, maybe based on demand).
 
I believe the 6-50 plug itself is quite a bit cheaper than the 14-50 plug. I went with 6/3 wiring. I ran the wiring outdoors for 80' and paid for a Hydro official inspection (for insurance purposes). Cost in total was $1000.
My Grizzl-e was $750 (I got the Smart one just because).
Haven't had any issues.
 
I believe the 6-50 plug itself is quite a bit cheaper than the 14-50 plug. I went with 6/3 wiring. I ran the wiring outdoors for 80' and paid for a Hydro official inspection (for insurance purposes). Cost in total was $1000.
My Grizzl-e was $750 (I got the Smart one just because).
Haven't had any issues.
The online pricing that I see for the sockets themselves is the same, about $10 for the cheap version of either one, or $50 to $70 for the good version.
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As the vehicle deliveries are approaching, the GV60 will become the first electric vehicle for many owners, me included. Many of us will need to get our homes/garages ready to charge our new car and this brings a few newbie questions that may be obvious to some, but not to all:

1. Is there a charger cable supplied with the GV60? what kind is it and how fast will it charge the battery?
2. Is there a need to buy a different charger at home for a faster charge?
3. If yes to question 2, what make/models should one consider? Where is the best place to buy (in Canada)?
4. Besides getting a 220V plug outlet for a Level 2 charger, is there anything else to consider and/or to ask an electrician?

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1) Yes, the GV60 comes with a Level 1 EVCE cable. It's a 120v unit capable of up to 12 amperes, which is 1440 watts, or 1.44kW. (That's about the equivalent of a toaster oven.) If you're going by "industry standard" 10% - 80% charge on the 77.4kWh battery in a GV60, that's ~54kWh of charge, which makes it ~37 hours. Not exactly "fast", but overnight, you could add about 40 miles of range, which might be enough to get to work and home, or take the kids to school and do some shopping.
2) If you only do short trips, or don't use the car often, maybe not. I'm guessing that the price of Level 2 (240 volt) home EVCE units will be dropping as Electric Vehicles become more common. As noted elsewhere, currently (no pun intended) your electric company and the federal government may have rebates which can make a BIG dent in the cost of installing an EVCE. Some are capable of delivering up to 48 amperes at 240 volts, or over 11.5kW, making charging go 8 times faster. A 10% to 80% charge would be less than 5 hours! Note that the GV60 can take a maximum of 48 amperes from a Level 2 EVCE. Don't spend the extra cash on a EVCE that can output 50 amperes - I only know of two that can do that anyway.
3) There are literally dozens of brands to choose from. Offhand, I know of one actually made in Canada, and it's had good reviews from Ziff-Davis and other reputable magazines. The GV60 has some built-in charging features that allow you to delay charging, which may make it cheaper to charge late at night, after you've gone to bed - plug in the cable, set the timers, and not worry about it until the next morning! Some EVCEs have other features like nice displays, wifi, which allows you to monitor charging status, turn on & off charging etc., but those features will add to the cost of the EVCE. As for places to buy, our Genesis dealer said they bought theirs online from "a large e-commerce company."
4) Beware of the higher-voltage, higher-current receptacles. The NEMA 14-50 connections are pretty common in the US, but it's one that's suitable for an electric dryer or electric range and may not be capable of handling high current for extended periods of time. Those inexpensive "residential" receptacles are intended for intermittent higher current, not for continuous high current use, as would be required for charging a car. Reports of melted receptacles abound, as they're made of plastic. Some even catch on fire. (Google it.) That $10 receptacle might be okay for a clothes dryer, but you'll spend ten to fifteen times that for one that can handle the punishment of up to 8 hours of continuous 40 ampere currents. It's safer to get a higher-power EVCE hard-wired in. Yes, it may more expensive (see #2 above), but do you REALLY want to risk that new $70,000+ GV60 (not to mention your home) being burned up?
 
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