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As a frequent early adopter, I took the plunge and downloaded the upgrade for my 2015 5.0. I popped the existing SD card into my reader, hit up the MyHyundai site and began the download of the 9.7GB installation.
Of my 100Mb connection, I was capped at about 24Mb for the download. The tool prompted that depending upon the map version I was on, the download size would vary. Considering I bought the car with 800 miles on it, and never updated it, I'm pretty sure that the original map was on the card. Still, it was simple. Insert the card into the reader, run the tool and watch the progress bar.
Once that finished, it had to then format and offload the files to the card. That also took quite a while. I wanna say in total, the download and card setup was around 2 hours. I was playing Overwatch and only half-glancing at the installer window every now and then to make sure it hadn't crapped out.
The next morning, I started the car, put the card in and pressed setup. I have a 45-60 minute commute to work, and figured it'd be the perfect time to let it do its thing. The instructions said it can take anywhere from 20 minutes to beyond 40 minutes to complete the upgrade.
40 minutes later, the upgrade finished without issue. However, I did notice a few things. There is a typo or just poor grammar on one of the info screens during the upgrade. It says "Restart the system" and then says to not force the restart. I was a little confused at the competing instructions. As I was about to pull over into a parking lot, the radio system restarted. So, it should have said "Restarting the system" to allude to the fact it was all automatic. So, don't freak out if it sits on that screen for a minute or two before rebooting.
Also, there were a few times during the upgrade that the progress bar didn't move at all for several minutes. I was expecting it to error out when it'd suddenly start filling up the empty bar with progress being made. So, don't freak out about that either. A few of the steps like the "GPS" update took forever.
One the way home from work I got to actually try Carplay with my 5c since I forgot to bring a cable with me in the morning. Overall, Carplay is basically "meh". I really don't see much value in the system yet to warrant people losing their minds that the Ultimate version isn't getting the upgrade. I could do everything with the factory unit via voice command or via Eyes Free that I can do now.
In fact, CarPlay nearly forces you to touch the screen in some instances which kind of defeats the point of hands free. One thing that I liked about the factory default system was the map and music being on the same screen (split screen). Well, that's gone if you use CarPlay (unless use the default navigation map). If you want to use Apple Maps, you're going to see that full screen even if you're playing music off your phone. Also, your mini-screen between the tach and speedo, no more music info or turn by turn directions if you are using CarPlay. All you'll see on those screen options is an icon of a folder and "Apps" below it.
To me, that really stinks. The nice part about the factory navigation was being able to have the mini display of my instructions right in front of me. The other apps you can use from the screen on CarPlay? The phone, messaging and itunes. I personally use Amazon Music for 12GB of offline music on my phone. That app doesn't appear on my screen. I have to start it on the phone in order to get the song info to show up. And again, I can't see that song info when I'm using Apple Maps.
With EyesFree I could send: text messages, voice dial people, have Siri read me recent texts and be asked if I want to reply to them all over Bluetooth. Now, I have to take my phone out of my pocket and plug it in every time I want to use CarPlay. I'm not seeing the benefit here. Now, if I don't plug in, I can keep using EyesFree like I was and bypass CarPlay.
So far, the sole advantage I see for CarPlay is use of Apple Maps. For where I live, the traffic data is as good, if not marginally better, than Sirius' traffic data. Not having to pay for traffic info is nice. Apple Maps looks really good on the screen too. But, it renders my mini-display next to the speedo pretty pointless for turn-by-turn directions or music info. Now 99% of the time, my mini-display is on the speed anyway.
Another downside is that for CarPlay, you only get Apple Maps which must have a data connection to download the maps as you drive. It is not an offline map app (like the TomTom app). I've been in quite a few places where I don't get data connection on my phone rendering Maps pointless--which is why I have the TomTom app as well (and a hard atlas in the trunk). But, I can't see the TomTom app on the screen through CarPlay.
Overall, as it stands now for CarPlay, I don't see what the big deal is (and I am a tech geek). Nearly everything that is important can be done via Bluetooth to your phone. The benefit of free traffic info and free updated maps via Apple Maps even come at the cost of you needing an internet connection and losing the nice split-screen setup the original system gives you. I'm pretty sure that 95% of the time, I'll be connecting via Bluetooth using the default infotainment system along with EyesFree to send/receive text and stream my music that way rather than via CarPlay. Perhaps, as Carplay matures, better features will make it more useful.
Don't fret Ultimate owners, you're not missing out at least as far as CarPlay is concerned. Heck, I'm still considering continuing to update my factory maps every now and then I like the current factory system so much. Of all the cars I've owned, it's one of the nicer infotainment systems. CarPlay, at least, doesn't really improve upon that yet.
Of my 100Mb connection, I was capped at about 24Mb for the download. The tool prompted that depending upon the map version I was on, the download size would vary. Considering I bought the car with 800 miles on it, and never updated it, I'm pretty sure that the original map was on the card. Still, it was simple. Insert the card into the reader, run the tool and watch the progress bar.
Once that finished, it had to then format and offload the files to the card. That also took quite a while. I wanna say in total, the download and card setup was around 2 hours. I was playing Overwatch and only half-glancing at the installer window every now and then to make sure it hadn't crapped out.
The next morning, I started the car, put the card in and pressed setup. I have a 45-60 minute commute to work, and figured it'd be the perfect time to let it do its thing. The instructions said it can take anywhere from 20 minutes to beyond 40 minutes to complete the upgrade.
40 minutes later, the upgrade finished without issue. However, I did notice a few things. There is a typo or just poor grammar on one of the info screens during the upgrade. It says "Restart the system" and then says to not force the restart. I was a little confused at the competing instructions. As I was about to pull over into a parking lot, the radio system restarted. So, it should have said "Restarting the system" to allude to the fact it was all automatic. So, don't freak out if it sits on that screen for a minute or two before rebooting.
Also, there were a few times during the upgrade that the progress bar didn't move at all for several minutes. I was expecting it to error out when it'd suddenly start filling up the empty bar with progress being made. So, don't freak out about that either. A few of the steps like the "GPS" update took forever.
One the way home from work I got to actually try Carplay with my 5c since I forgot to bring a cable with me in the morning. Overall, Carplay is basically "meh". I really don't see much value in the system yet to warrant people losing their minds that the Ultimate version isn't getting the upgrade. I could do everything with the factory unit via voice command or via Eyes Free that I can do now.
In fact, CarPlay nearly forces you to touch the screen in some instances which kind of defeats the point of hands free. One thing that I liked about the factory default system was the map and music being on the same screen (split screen). Well, that's gone if you use CarPlay (unless use the default navigation map). If you want to use Apple Maps, you're going to see that full screen even if you're playing music off your phone. Also, your mini-screen between the tach and speedo, no more music info or turn by turn directions if you are using CarPlay. All you'll see on those screen options is an icon of a folder and "Apps" below it.
To me, that really stinks. The nice part about the factory navigation was being able to have the mini display of my instructions right in front of me. The other apps you can use from the screen on CarPlay? The phone, messaging and itunes. I personally use Amazon Music for 12GB of offline music on my phone. That app doesn't appear on my screen. I have to start it on the phone in order to get the song info to show up. And again, I can't see that song info when I'm using Apple Maps.
With EyesFree I could send: text messages, voice dial people, have Siri read me recent texts and be asked if I want to reply to them all over Bluetooth. Now, I have to take my phone out of my pocket and plug it in every time I want to use CarPlay. I'm not seeing the benefit here. Now, if I don't plug in, I can keep using EyesFree like I was and bypass CarPlay.
So far, the sole advantage I see for CarPlay is use of Apple Maps. For where I live, the traffic data is as good, if not marginally better, than Sirius' traffic data. Not having to pay for traffic info is nice. Apple Maps looks really good on the screen too. But, it renders my mini-display next to the speedo pretty pointless for turn-by-turn directions or music info. Now 99% of the time, my mini-display is on the speed anyway.
Another downside is that for CarPlay, you only get Apple Maps which must have a data connection to download the maps as you drive. It is not an offline map app (like the TomTom app). I've been in quite a few places where I don't get data connection on my phone rendering Maps pointless--which is why I have the TomTom app as well (and a hard atlas in the trunk). But, I can't see the TomTom app on the screen through CarPlay.
Overall, as it stands now for CarPlay, I don't see what the big deal is (and I am a tech geek). Nearly everything that is important can be done via Bluetooth to your phone. The benefit of free traffic info and free updated maps via Apple Maps even come at the cost of you needing an internet connection and losing the nice split-screen setup the original system gives you. I'm pretty sure that 95% of the time, I'll be connecting via Bluetooth using the default infotainment system along with EyesFree to send/receive text and stream my music that way rather than via CarPlay. Perhaps, as Carplay matures, better features will make it more useful.
Don't fret Ultimate owners, you're not missing out at least as far as CarPlay is concerned. Heck, I'm still considering continuing to update my factory maps every now and then I like the current factory system so much. Of all the cars I've owned, it's one of the nicer infotainment systems. CarPlay, at least, doesn't really improve upon that yet.
The upgrade is free and only requires minimal effort. I think everyone should do it--esp. for the point you mention. 
Maybe is has something to do with the HUD causing issues.
