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Change OE tires?

I've been reviewing tire options as well as the OE Dunlops have about 30K on them and are in need of changing. After reviewing all the info on this site (there are a few threads re: tires) and other sites, I've learned a lot. I've also visited some local dealers in my area (Knoxville, TN) to discuss the issue. The best offer I've gotten is on a Continental Pro Contact OE size 235/50/R18 w/60K miles treadwear warranty. Package price--mount/balance (lifetime rotate/balance) w/road hazard, nitrogen, taxes at about $800 for the set from Tire Barn. The only notable difference is the "service description"/speed rating of 97H (max speed 130 mph), while our OE Dunlops have 97V (max speed 149 mph). I've had this car about 18 mos. now, and have never come anywhere near 130 mph, much less 149 mph. Does anyone have any useful/practical thoughts regarding this issue?

Thanks, as always for your thoughts and info.

Happy New Year to all!

Dan :>)
 
I've been reviewing tire options as well as the OE Dunlops have about 30K on them and are in need of changing. After reviewing all the info on this site (there are a few threads re: tires) and other sites, I've learned a lot. I've also visited some local dealers in my area (Knoxville, TN) to discuss the issue. The best offer I've gotten is on a Continental Pro Contact OE size 235/50/R18 w/60K miles treadwear warranty. Package price--mount/balance (lifetime rotate/balance) w/road hazard, nitrogen, taxes at about $800 for the set from Tire Barn. The only notable difference is the "service description"/speed rating of 97H (max speed 130 mph), while our OE Dunlops have 97V (max speed 149 mph). I've had this car about 18 mos. now, and have never come anywhere near 130 mph, much less 149 mph. Does anyone have any useful/practical thoughts regarding this issue?

Thanks, as always for your thoughts and info.

Happy New Year to all!

Dan :>)

The Conti ProContact's don't get great ratings on TireRack (7) and run $130/tire there. For $3 less per tire you could get General Exclaim UHP rated 8.3. The Exclaims are performance tires and won't do well in snow but that shouldn't be an issue in Tennessee.
 
I've been reviewing tire options as well as the OE Dunlops have about 30K on them and are in need of changing. After reviewing all the info on this site (there are a few threads re: tires) and other sites, I've learned a lot. I've also visited some local dealers in my area (Knoxville, TN) to discuss the issue. The best offer I've gotten is on a Continental Pro Contact OE size 235/50/R18 w/60K miles treadwear warranty. Package price--mount/balance (lifetime rotate/balance) w/road hazard, nitrogen, taxes at about $800 for the set from Tire Barn. The only notable difference is the "service description"/speed rating of 97H (max speed 130 mph), while our OE Dunlops have 97V (max speed 149 mph). I've had this car about 18 mos. now, and have never come anywhere near 130 mph, much less 149 mph. Does anyone have any useful/practical thoughts regarding this issue?

Thanks, as always for your thoughts and info.

Happy New Year to all!

Dan :>)
Those tires have been around for a while. They are fairly inexpensive and a lot of tire places carry them. With that being said, it really depends what type of consumer you are. The tires will suit you just fine if you are an average Joe, and just want to get around town and not think too much about sport or handling or need the newest and greatest thing. They are much softer than the Dunlops and are an all season touring tire. The fact that they are H rated shouldn't matter for you.
 
The Conti ProContact's don't get great ratings on TireRack (7) and run $130/tire there. For $3 less per tire you could get General Exclaim UHP rated 8.3. The Exclaims are performance tires and won't do well in snow but that shouldn't be an issue in Tennessee.

I've read the ratings on TireRack and a few other sites regarding the Continentals. Most of the not-so-positive ratings seem to revolve around the average handling issues during winter weather. It's winter here today as well--I think it's about 25 degrees out now (mid-day), but no snow--and like most years, probably won't see any to speak of. I've had Eagle GTs in the past, so I looked at them as well and a few others...seems about the same in a lot of (less subjective) categories, albeit at a higher price. My driving style is average, considering a split between city/hwy driving at/near posted speed limits. I don't drive "hard", and frankly the Dunlops have performed reasonably well for me. But, they are a more expensive tire in our market than other similarly rated tires.

TireRack doesn't offer a Road Hazard warranty on this tire, and after reviewing their RH policy, I'm not enthused about getting one from them. You can review their policy/prices, etc. Generally, I like the idea of getting it locally and having it serviced locally. I've also done a bit of review on "road force balancing"--a very interesting process, if/when done correctly. I found one site that had a review written by one of the 4 engineers who claims to have written some of the software used on that Hunter machine. I'm guessing he's correct, because if he's blowing smoke, he's blowing it in the right direction! Tire Barn offers this service.

After paying Tire Rack's price, shipping, and the local dealer's cost for mounting/balancing, etc., the only thing I'd be saving is the cost of the RH warranty that they don't offer, so not much of a bargain buying from them.

TR's site is great for product reviews, though--I've learned a ton just by studying for the last couple of weeks.

The General you describe also doesn't seem to perform well in inclement weather--just like so many tires in this overall category.

I think I remember reading somewhere else on this site where someone suggested there should be a place to go and actually "try out" tires before making the purchase...anyone want to open such a business?? (And take on that liability and cost)? You'd be everyone's friend, except your banker!

Dan :>)

PS: I guess I should make one other point, which probably refutes something I wrote earlier. I recognize how business works, including how tires are selected by a manufacturer for one of their auto products. The company would put out a bid spec, and offers would come in from qualified manufacturers that can build new/offer existing product that meet the specs, and at a certain price point based on expected sales in a given period of time. With that in mind, I suppose I shouldn't put a lot of emphasis on Dunlop vs. some other potential make considering they were selected for use on the Gennys. They were most likely the lowest bidder! If there were some other more pressing stat, why are Hankook Optimos used on the Equus? (They don't make a size for the Gen's....yet).
 
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Really depends on what type of driver you are. The tire rack summarizes this tire as a value oriented grand touring tire. Which to me says, average, middle of the road performance at a reasonable price, which is going to suit most people. If this sounds like you than go for it. If you want to keep the sporting nature of the car I would opt for high performance all season equivalent. If you are one of those who thinks the ride could benefit from some softer rubber, to smooth out some of the harshness of the car at lower speeds, than I think your choice is a good one.
 
since tires are the number 1 safety item you can buy i opt for spending the additional $200 or $300 and in this case it would be the michelin a/s sport plus.
 
Mine was also, until I put a set of Bridgestone Bliz. on the rear.....What a difference!!!!

What are you using for rear rims? I want to get some winter tires but want matching rims
 
Mine was also, until I put a set of Bridgestone Bliz. on the rear.....What a difference!!!!

That is not a good idea. You really should have winter tires on your steering wheels as well. It will also hurt during braking, when 60-70% of the stopping force is placed on the front wheels do to weight transfer.
 
What are you using for rear rims? I want to get some winter tires but want matching rims

It is always best to get a full set of matching tires for winter. For one thing, traction is important on ALL wheels...not just the driving ones. For another, you should rotate your tires for optimum life and handling. You want to swap the winter tires, front to back, each season. The summer tires should be rotated at each oil change.
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It is always best to get a full set of matching tires for winter. For one thing, traction is important on ALL wheels...not just the driving ones. For another, you should rotate your tires for optimum life and handling. You want to swap the winter tires, front to back, each season. The summer tires should be rotated at each oil change.

I change my oil every 3000 miles. Theres no way the tires need rotating that much. I usually wait till the fronts start to feather a little then rotate them.
 
I change my oil every 3000 miles. Theres no way the tires need rotating that much. I usually wait till the fronts start to feather a little then rotate them.

You are right. 3000 miles would be too much. I was basing it on the average oil change of 5000-7000 miles.
 
They are much softer than the Dunlops and are an all season touring tire. The fact that they are H rated shouldn't matter for you.

A few local tire dealers have suggested that going "backwards" w/speed ratings isn't a good idea--having little to do with speed, but more about handling/control issues due to softer sidewalls. Any thoughts?

Also recommended by other dealers:

1. Firehawk GT
2. Bridgestone Turanza
3. Falken ZE 912

Does anyone have any experience with any of these?

Thanks again--

Dan
 
A few local tire dealers have suggested that going "backwards" w/speed ratings isn't a good idea--having little to do with speed, but more about handling/control issues due to softer sidewalls. Any thoughts?

Also recommended by other dealers:

1. Firehawk GT
2. Bridgestone Turanza
3. Falken ZE 912

Does anyone have any experience with any of these?

Thanks again--

Dan
The tire dealers are correct, but in context. If you want the most performance out of your car then going backwards isn't a good idea. But if you're looking for more ride comfort, treadwear life, and affordability, then going to H rated tires are perfectly fine for this car.
I had the turanzas as the OEM on my 1995 LS 400. They are universally hated by every owner who had this car new. Very little road input, poor treadlife and expensive. Very bad combinations.
Falken is a subsidiary of Sumitomo tire, don't no much about them , but they pretty much position themselves as the bargin basement Japanese tire company. Firestone, don't know much about. They are a subsidiary of Bridgestone, which I believe is the largest tire manufacturer in the world. But other than the shit storm with the Ford Explorer, I haven't heard much about them. I'm sure they must be pretty inexpensive though. Your tire dealers are recommending old ass tire models. Not that they're bad, but you better be getting some bargain basement quotes.
 
Dan I guess I should clarify that the Bridgestone Turanzas were the model ER33, that came as OEM with the Lexus. There are several Turanza models. I have heard stellar things about the Turanza Serenity, so they're not all created equal.
 
Dan I guess I should clarify that the Bridgestone Turanzas were the model ER33, that came as OEM with the Lexus. There are several Turanza models. I have heard stellar things about the Turanza Serenity, so they're not all created equal.

The quote I got was for the Turanza Serenity. Carries a 45K mile warranty. Pkg. price $1,164 inc. tires, mount, lifetime balance/rotation, road hazard, TN state tire fees, sales taxes.

Firehawk GT: $827 same package--both from a Firestone dealer that I've done business with in the past. 40K mileage warranty

Falken ZE912/101W $726 same pkg, from a Goodyear dealer. Only difference here was nitrogen. 40K mileage warranty.

Some detail on the Falken:

FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 Spirit of the All Season Performance Tire. Imagine an all season performance tire designed to offer true grip and increased traction that ultimately advances driver confidence whatever the weather condition. With the FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912, Falken has developed a tire with full-depth sipes encircling the tread, coupled with high-volume circumferential grooves and high angle variable cross grooves, that bring together the spirit of performance driving in all climates. When faced with wet conditions, the FALKEN ZIEX ZE-912 features increased hydroplane resistance and increased tread stability by evacuating water away, delivering improved grip composure, while its hybrid-asymmetric pattern produces better dry performance and genuine touring confidence during each and every season. The result is a tire that performs regardless of the condition of the road.

FEATURES AND BENEFITS
◘ Hybrid-Asymmetric Pattern Design – Optimized inside and outside tread patterns to ensure all-season grip on demand
◘ Infinite Sipe Sequence – Full-depth sipes throughout the entire tread platform creating biting edges that dramatically increase traction in all seasons
◘ Mileage Warranty 65,000 miles for the 60/65 series and 40,000 miles for 35 through 55 series
◘ Rotation Wear Indicators (RWI) – Falken engineered visual cues that help the driver maximize tire life and overall tire value, prompting regular tire maintenance
◘ Four High-Volume Circumferential Grooves – Designed to deliver increased hydroplane resistance and maximum stability in wet conditions
◘ High Angle Variable Cross Grooves – In inclement weather conditions, these grooves effectively evacuate water away from the contact patch.

Dan
 
The quote I got was for the Turanza Serenity. Carries a 45K mile warranty. Pkg. price $1,164 inc. tires, mount, lifetime balance/rotation, road hazard, TN state tire fees, sales taxes.

Firehawk GT: $827 same package--both from a Firestone dealer that I've done business with in the past. 40K mileage warranty

Falken ZE912/101W $726 same pkg, from a Goodyear dealer. Only difference here was nitrogen. 40K mileage warranty.
Dan
All 3 prices sound reasonable. I would go for the bridgestones, but they are pretty pricey. You could probably get something decent for 700-800, that would be better than the Firestones or Falkens. I wouldn't be spending more than 150 a tire,100 bucks for install and 60 bucks on tax. You need to shop around more.
 
My Firestone service person (dealing with him for nearly 15 years) recomended the Turanza from Bridgestone

Total including tax and an alignment here in Fort Lauderdale is $1049.35 including free rotation for life of the tire
 
WOW............some people pay BIG money for tires.

I went to goodyear a while back for an estimate on some tires for my 4 runner and they wanted about $1300.

I said they were nuts!

I go to http://www.discounttiredirect.com to get all my tires. All this warranty gibberish is another scheme for them to make some pocket change. Its cheaper in the long run to just buy a new tire!

My new tires on my RX400h-$600+ road balanced and installed.

If one goes bad, heck, Ill just buy another one.

As of right now, Im checking out the Falken ZE912's (a consumer reports rated #1 in a UHP ALL SEASON tire) for $135 a tire. With shipping I can have them at my door for $540. I will then pay Wal-mart $9 a tire for mount and balance. Or go to my local tire store and have them "road force balanced" for $15 tire.

Sorry if it seems I have ranted a little...but we all work HARD for our money and for that reason I shop smartly!

I paid the "BIG" money before for a set of Goodyear ResponseEdge tires on my Camry...$985 installed. They rode no better than any other tire I have had. Its not worth the big bucks!!! They were replaced at 40K. I travelled 202 miles a day for 3 years in this Camry. I went through 5 sets of tires. I learned quickly after that expensive mistake!!!

Genesisowners...Please SHOP wisely and save those buckeroo's for a few nights out with the wife and kids!!!;)
 
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