Daytime running lights

[Silver Streak]

I am very disappointed that the Genesis does not have daytime running lights or a timer for delay shut off. I think the daytime running are a great saftey feature. I wonder if there will be a retrofit for this feature

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

In the meantime you can always use your parking lights to make you more visible. They aren't only the ambers, but are a white light next to the headlights.
That said, I like DRL's too.

 

[Mark_888]

I am very disappointed that the Genesis does not have daytime running lights or a timer for delay shut off. I think the daytime running are a great saftey feature. I wonder if there will be a retrofit for this feature

The Canadian Genesis has them, so maybe you can figure out to get them working on US models.

 

[Silver Streak]

That is a place to start. Perhaps it is just a plug in module that could purchased from a dealer. Thanks for the input

 

[ctrcbob]

If we get too many bells and whistles on this car, the cost will go up into the E-Class range. I'm happy with it just as it is.

 

[Gimli]

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=1616

 

[bbk]

I, too, am a fan of DRLs, although I've never owned a vehicle equipped with them (it's never been a major factor in the purchasing decision). My first choice then, would be to turn the light switch to the parking light position (1st position) and drive with the "fog" lights acting in the role of DRLs. Alas, the Genesis doesn't allow "fog" lamp operation independent of the low beams. That leaves me with my second choice, simply turning the light switch to the parking light position. The Owner's Manual states that in this position the tail, license and instrument lights are illuminated. What it doesn't say, and what BTHBC correctly noted above, is that the front and rear side markers, as well as the front position light, are also illuminated. The OEM position lights are small, dim, 5W, incandescent wedge bulbs located just inboard and slightly below the high beam bulbs. There are numerous other places in this forum where owners have complained about the quality, color and brightness of the dozens of low-wattage interior and exterior incandescent bulbs used throughout the Genesis. Many, myself included, have replaced those bulbs with LEDs. What I haven't heard in this forum is anyone complain about the position light. I guess it's just me; but, in my opinion, the most anemic-looking light on this car is the position light. Clearly, I simply couldn't take it anymore and had to replace them with 1.5W LED bulbs. Now, instead of the light-tan output of the OEM bulbs, the position lights (my de facto DRLs) are pure white.

 

[jonah]

...I simply couldn't take it anymore and had to replace them with 1.5W LED bulbs. Now, instead of the light-tan output of the OEM bulbs, the position lights (my de facto DRLs) are pure white.

AWESOME I love it!! I've been wanting to do this since I got the car. How hard was it to get the old incandescent bulb out?? How did you do it?? What type of bulb did you replace with??

Thanks, cheers!!

 

[bbk]

Thanks. It wasn't too difficult a process. I took my time, feeling my way along, and the process took about three hours. Now that I know what to do, I'm sure the job would take me all of 45 minutes to repeat. As you can probably guess, the majority of the work involves clearing a sufficient work space behind the headlamp assembly. In broad strokes, clearing this space involves 1) removing the black trim piece running from fender to fender and across the top of the radiator, 2) remove bolts securing fuse box so that the box can be nudged out of the way, and 3) removing the air filter housing. Once these are completed, you'll gain sight of the high beam bulb caps. Unscrew the caps and you'll reveal connectors for both the high beam bulb and the position light bulb. Pull the black position light connector straight out; there are no threads and no pins, just a snap-fit. I replaced the OEM bulbs with ones purchased from V-LEDS.COM, specifically their "HID WHITE 3 M-SMT 1.5W HIGH POWER BULBS 194 168 158 (V-LEDS Part ID: 194_3HP_W). Of course there are many other LEDs one could use, basically any 194 wedge base, but pay close attention to the length and diameter of the replacement bulb. Diameter's a concern because the bulb must fit through the connector hole, and length's a concern because of the hole's awkward, offset position.

The attached photos show the bulb I used, as well as the rear of the high beam housing, with cap removed. The photo shows the driver's side high beam bulb removed and its connector tucked out of sight to the left. In the foreground is the black, position light connector.

 

[scottdk]

Thanks. It wasn't too difficult a process. I took my time, feeling my way along, and the process took about three hours. Now that I know what to do, I'm sure the job would take me all of 45 minutes to repeat. As you can probably guess, the majority of the work involves clearing a sufficient work space behind the headlamp assembly. In broad strokes, clearing this space involves 1) removing the black trim piece running from fender to fender and across the top of the radiator, 2) remove bolts securing fuse box so that the box can be nudged out of the way, and 3) removing the air filter housing. Once these are completed, you'll gain sight of the high beam bulb caps. Unscrew the caps and you'll reveal connectors for both the high beam bulb and the position light bulb. Pull the black position light connector straight out; there are no threads and no pins, just a snap-fit. I replaced the OEM bulbs with ones purchased from V-LEDS.COM, specifically their "HID WHITE 3 M-SMT 1.5W HIGH POWER BULBS 194 168 158 (V-LEDS Part ID: 194_3HP_W). Of course there are many other LEDs one could use, basically any 194 wedge base, but pay close attention to the length and diameter of the replacement bulb. Diameter's a concern because the bulb must fit through the connector hole, and length's a concern because of the hole's awkward, offset position.

The attached photos show the bulb I used, as well as the rear of the high beam housing, with cap removed. The photo shows the driver's side high beam bulb removed and its connector tucked out of sight to the left. In the foreground is the black, position light connector.

Well, it appears that you have solved the issue of the dealer charging $200+ for the high beams to be replaced since they say they have to remove the front bumper in order to get to the headlamp assembly.

I will be patient and move junk out of the way and change my high beams now. Thanks!!

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[bbk]

Yes, I'm convinced that, in order to remove the entire headlight assembly, removal of the front bumper fascia would be required. Clearly, though, fascia removal is not required to simply access the high beams. While the maneuvering is still quite tight on the driver's side, the passenger side is wide open once the air filter assembly is removed. As you may be able to tell from my photo, the driver's side would be tough going for someone with exceptionally large hands. This would be true especially when replacing the convoluted spring clip (not shown in photo) that holds the high beam bulb in place. I might add that for the fuse box, I simply removed three bolts and pushed it gently aside to gain a bit of working clearance. It would've been great to have it totally out of the way, but removing it was something I wouldn't feel comfortable even considering doing.

 

[jonah]

Thanks. It wasn't too difficult a process...

Well I'm in. I just ordered a few different pairs of 194 bulbs to see which work best for me. I'm going to take another look at the area around the headlight assembly and, now that I know it's possible and with your instructions, start moving stuff out of the way to finally change those damn ugly bulbs!

Have you raised the aim on your HIDs yet? Cranking them up just a degree or so made all the difference in the world for my sight distance... I recommend it.

Thanks again, we'll see how it goes and I'll report back.

 

[jonah]

well things are not going so well. i was able to get to the passenger's side bulb no problem, and even got the bulb installed. feeling quite proud of myself, i was turning the socket assembly to make sure it was tight when the new bulb, get this, FELL DOWN INSIDE the headlight assembly. all the way down into god-knows-where, never to be seen again... oh you should see me...

so now i've got the old one back in, and i'm trying to get the high beam bulb secure with the nice little clip and i can't see for the life of me how it goes. i'm going to fiddle with it a little more then give up until my replacement bulb comes, when i'll try it all again <sigh>

 

[jonah]

i looked on the hmaservice.com website and the closest thing to an explanation I could find for how to put the clips on was, "reattach clips..."

if anyone has any advice on the correct orientation of these clips it would be greatly appreciated!

i consider the lost bulb a casualty of the process. i'm going to order another one and be done with it.

there was plenty of room on the passenger's side. but i'm not sure how easy it's going to be to move the fuse box out of the way. did you remove the two top bolts holding the bracket to the front then the one other bolt that can be seen down and to the right of the fuse block?

i can't imagine why hyundai (or any auto maker) wouldn't put the LEDs on in places like this IN THE FIRST PLACE. people would go GAGA for them; we all love them. the cost/benefit seems like it would be dramatic... i even recommended to my dealer that he do all the lights on the showroom car and see how much faster it sells, for basically pennies.

 

[bbk]

Jonah, sorry to hear about the problems you encountered. Regarding the fuse box, I removed the top of the fuse box first. My recollection is that there are two bolts at the rear of the box and one bolt at the front of the box. I removed all three which allowed me to nudge the box toward engine centerline one or two inches. That little bit allowed access to the high beam cover cap.

My earlier reference to the "convoluted spring clip" was in response to scottdk's comment regarding high beam bulb replacement. I hope my comment didn't imply that the high beam bulb needed to be removed in order to replace the position lamp. It does not! Having done it once (and on the driver's side no less), I will never again remove that clip unless absolutely necessary. Toward the end of the week I'll again be removing the air filter housing and, if you can wait that long, I'll take some macro shots of the spring clip in place.

Couldn't agree more on the LED issue. For a lousy three hundred bucks or so, all of the interior and exterior low-wattage lamps could have been LED vice incandescent. It's like Hyundai went only halfway. On the rear of the car, for example, they went LED for tail light, stop light, high-mount stop light, and side marker. Then, incredulously, they slapped a big, orange, incandescent, turn signal bulb in the middle of their beautiful clear housing! Can you say "fried egg"? Even the Cadillac CTS has LED turn signal lamps! Interior lamps - same story; Hyundai went only halfway. I feel a rant coming on, so perhaps I should stop. Don't get me wrong; I absolutely love my Genesis! These are small nits I'm picking.

 

[itsme4g63]

I think the dlr feature is ridiculous. Be glad that the manufacturer gives you a decision of having the ability to control your lighting system and not taking for a total ape whom forgets to turn theirs on when it gets too dark. Haven't you seen many a ignoramuses on the highway or roadways perhaps driving in the middle of the night with just their dlr because they have gotten so used to having their lights already on that when it does get dark and you need your primary lights on (and they're not) an accident can be caused.

 

[jonah]

thanks for the help bbk, i'm going to go start with the driver's side next time, when my new led comes in. i figure if i can move the fuse box like you say, then i can study the clip on that high beam and maybe gain some insight as to how the heck the thing is supposed to go. apparently lots of H7s (all?) are "clipped" in this way, so searching around online may lead to something too. if you are digging around in your and can take a pic that would be greatly appreciated!

i wouldn't even bother except this is the ONE light that has been bugging me since i bought the car. i've changed everything else out, no problem, but this is my white whale...

 

[bbk]

Hey . . . itsme4g63 . . . nice to meet you too.

Don't know if you're an owner or not, but considering your 18 days as a member of this forum, you're no doubt aware that the US-market Genesis doesn't have DRLs. What you seem unaware of is that we've not been talking about installing a DRL system; what we've been talking about here is changing out a couple of bulbs. Are you somehow suggesting that we're ignorami for doing so? We'll still be in control of our own lights.

If you're inviting comments regarding idiots on the road, get ready for a long thread. Not sure if it's appropriate in this thread, or even in this forum for that matter.

 

[scottdk]

Jonah, sorry to hear about the problems you encountered. Regarding the fuse box, I removed the top of the fuse box first. My recollection is that there are two bolts at the rear of the box and one bolt at the front of the box. I removed all three which allowed me to nudge the box toward engine centerline one or two inches. That little bit allowed access to the high beam cover cap.

My earlier reference to the "convoluted spring clip" was in response to scottdk's comment regarding high beam bulb replacement. I hope my comment didn't imply that the high beam bulb needed to be removed in order to replace the position lamp. It does not! Having done it once (and on the driver's side no less), I will never again remove that clip unless absolutely necessary. Toward the end of the week I'll again be removing the air filter housing and, if you can wait that long, I'll take some macro shots of the spring clip in place.

Couldn't agree more on the LED issue. For a lousy three hundred bucks or so, all of the interior and exterior low-wattage lamps could have been LED vice incandescent. It's like Hyundai went only halfway. On the rear of the car, for example, they went LED for tail light, stop light, high-mount stop light, and side marker. Then, incredulously, they slapped a big, orange, incandescent, turn signal bulb in the middle of their beautiful clear housing! Can you say "fried egg"? Even the Cadillac CTS has LED turn signal lamps! Interior lamps - same story; Hyundai went only halfway. I feel a rant coming on, so perhaps I should stop. Don't get me wrong; I absolutely love my Genesis! These are small nits I'm picking.

Well I got my new High beam bulbs installed, the same one's as I have for the foglights, but the 55W Krypton bulbs and the LED's in replace of the stock yellor DRL (or whatever it is considered).

With your process for unbolting the fuse panel and air cleaner assembly, it took me from start to finish 20 minutes.

I do recommend using a needle nose pliers to pull out the wedge bulbs from the high beam lens and to hold the actual tiny bulb assembly to install the new bulbs.

Thanks for the advice!

 

[bbk]

You're quite welcome. Glad things went smoothly for you. What temperature high beams bulbs did you use?