Different Cabernet Red Pearl Paints

[jstkrsn]

My car is a 2012 with the Cabernet Red Pearl. I got tapped from behind and it scratched the bumper. The collision company put a new cover and repainted it. The color doesn't match at all. They are going to repaint it next week. The painter said there were a couple different paint variations for the paint code on this car. Has anyone run into this? Or is he just trying to make excuses for a bad mix.

 

[homeofstone]

Bad mix. And he did not do a test to check the match. Its a three step process. Base color then the proper pearl coat , then at least two coats of clear. Of course these are sprayed after primer coats.

 

[Sinstr]

Ive had the same problem, on 2 different Genesis cars. There are 3 paint variations for the current white and 2 different variations for the pearl black. Visit the paint shop and they will show you 2 or 3 paint chips for our cars, all with the same paint code. We discovered this after painting my grill and some other parts. Once we had the paint code/chips, we used that goofy "paint light" that the body shop has (looks like a flashlight with a blue-ish lamp) and matched the correct chip for the mix. Computer did the rest, and paint is now perfect. Has nothing to do with bad mixing, etc.

 

[Mark_888]

I thought the paint companies are supposed to provide guidance on how to match their paints with the OEM paints (obviously different brands of paint in case of the Korean built Genesis). I recently had my bumper cover replaced and painted Platinum Silver by a body shop and it was a perfect match. They use PPG paints and the PPG Global Refinish System.

From the PPG website:

Annual color information at a glance.

• Our annual Color Information Books are a comprehensive OEM color reference guide providing extensive color identification information.
• The SideView Window™ makes it easy to compare a color chip to the vehicle—helping to identify the repair color or OEM code.
• Special grey paper enhances the ability to recognize subtle differences between similar colors.
• Information regarding paint code locations for each motor manufacturer.

Making difficult matches easy.

It's a fact that on nearly half of the cars painted today, the actual color sprayed in the factory varies from the OEM standard—making color matching time-consuming and difficult.

The solution is the PPG Color Variant System, designed for use with PPG solvent-based topcoat systems. It contains color chips and corresponding paint codes for thousands of the latest color variants, covering both domestic and import vehicles. Use it to identify a color that best matches the actual color of the customer's vehicle and you can save time and eliminate costly mistakes.

• Color decks for major vehicle manufacturers
• Organized by Motor Manufacturer and Color Family
• Chips painted with actual PPG refinish paint for accuracy
• Large chip size for easy comparison to vehicle
• Fan decks designed for maximum usability

 

[wd40]

My car is a 2012 with the Cabernet Red Pearl. I got tapped from behind and it scratched the bumper. The collision company put a new cover and repainted it. The color doesn't match at all. They are going to repaint it next week. The painter said there were a couple different paint variations for the paint code on this car. Has anyone run into this? Or is he just trying to make excuses for a bad mix.

Paint code is listed on the federal compliance label. Cabernet red pearl paint code is TZ.

 

[Epiphany]

Bad mix or using the wrong variant. Most paint codes generally have 2+ variants, with some of the older GM ones having 10-15

 

[jstkrsn]

Well got my car back with the repaint. It is much closer to the original than before, but not 100%. I'll just live with it. I had an 86 Corvette that I made them repaint four times once, and it just kept getting worse until I gave up. I don't think you can ever get a better paint job than the original factory one where it is all painted with the same color whatever that is at that time.

 

[Mark_888]

Well got my car back with the repaint. It is much closer to the original than before, but not 100%. I'll just live with it. I had an 86 Corvette that I made them repaint four times once, and it just kept getting worse until I gave up. I don't think you can ever get a better paint job than the original factory one where it is all painted with the same color whatever that is at that time.

I suspect that some colors are a lot harder to match (such as red).

 

[Epiphany]

I suspect that some colors are a lot harder to match (such as red).

It is also near impossible to match a colour on repaint, especially on a plastic bumper vs metal fenders.