Driver's seat leather and cushion problem

[Jbo]

I would have to agree that you have an issue, unless you have a 400lb 8 inch wide sitting place. What little checks and abrasions I could see are reasonable, but the center distortion of the mayoral is not.
I assume you do NOT wear a wet bathing suit bottom while driving either!

 

[Mark_888]

Ok so here are the photos, this is a car that has 10k miles, this in my opinion is completely unacceptable. If it looks this bad at 10k miles I can only imagine what it will look like at 20k...

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That is by far the worst I have seen. I wonder if you applied any chemicals/cleaners or got water on the seat and then sat in it before it completely dried (and therefore stretched the leather)? I think an auto upholstery shop can easily fix it.

 

[jchao]

Mine looked like that at 500 miles. They replaced the bottom with a bottom from the show room and within a 100 miles it looked the same.
I weigh 210.
I stopped complaining and excepted what I purchased.

 

[Mark_888]

Mine looked like that at 500 miles. They replaced the bottom with a bottom from the show room and within a 100 miles it looked the same.
I weigh 210.
I stopped complaining and excepted what I purchased.

It probably won't do much good to replace the leather seat bottom, since the new leather will stretch again. But once it has stretched, an auto upholstery shop can tighten it up by removing some material.

In some older threads it was reported that some dealers had a upholstery ship fix it for customers at no charge. If you can't get your dealer to fix it for free, at least get one or more estimates from an upholstery shop, because it may not cost as much as you think.

Also, as I previously mentioned, some cleaning chemicals or water may shrink the leather (but don't sit it the seat until completely dry).

 

[Mark_888]

Maybe I was wrong about what the professional uphostery shops did to fix the problem on some Genesis owner's seats. Here is some info I found on how to shrink leather car seats to remove wrinkes:

Instructions

1. Wipe down the leather seat with mild soap and water or a specifically formulated leather cleaner. Use the cloth to rinse and dry the leather seat so that no soap or cleaner residue remains on the surface of the leather.
2. Inspect the leather seats and find all the places that have wrinkles.
3. Turn on the hair blow dryer to its hottest, strongest setting.
4. Position the end of the dryer eight to 10 inches away from the wrinkled leather surface. Move the end back and forth so that the hot air from the dryer is not hitting a single portion of the leather for too long. This prevents the dryer from burning the leather.
5. Wait for the wrinkles to disappear. The heat from the hot air in the dryer will gradually shrink the leather, tightening its surface and effectively removing the wrinkles. Hair blow dryers operate at a lower temperature than the professional heat guns that are typically used to remove leather wrinkles. As a result, it might be several minutes before the wrinkles are completely gone.
6. Apply a light coat of premium leather conditioner and work it into the surface of the leather. This helps to protect the leather from the environment, and it might prevent or minimize future wrinkles. Buff lightly with a cloth. A high-quality leather conditioner might cost slightly more than some other brands, but it has less wax and can extend the life of your leather. Popular leather conditioners include Mothers Leather Conditioner and Meguiar's Gold Class Rich Leather Cleaner and Conditioner. Such products may be purchased at your local automotive store or online.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4841041_dryer-remove-wrinkles-leather-seats.html

 

[GonDeep11]

No wet bathing suit here, nothing as far as conditioner or cleaner. This is a synthetic material and using leather conditioner IMO is as silly as washing your windows with toilet bowl cleaner. Don't get me wrong, I live in arizona where the temps reach over 120 degrees and the inside temps push 165 degrees. There is no question there needs to be a UV protectant but Lexol is not the answer for Pleather < not a typo

Honestly, I feel the synthetic is fine, the seat cushions are too soft and deteriorate causing the seat bottom to sag, much like a used couch. If they increase the foam density this would prevent the material from stretching out, much like if you coated a hard piece of wood (Not that I want to sit on wood) but you get what I'm saying. I prefer a harder seat so I'm open to trying a firmer seat pan. I will update after I talk to the dealer.

 

[Brywood]

Mine looked like that at 500 miles. They replaced the bottom with a bottom from the show room and within a 100 miles it looked the same.
I weigh 210.
I stopped complaining and excepted what I purchased.

Ditto this exactely, same thing here. Replaced it at 3800 miles, looks the same, oh well. Dealer said they get Gennys in all the time complaining about the drivers seat.

 

[ShadowScoobySTi]

Im at the dealer right now getting the cruise control sensor cover fixed and decided to walk about to their used car lot. I can see now what some here are talking about. They have a 2010 LS460 and the driver seat is virtually flawless. And its the original seat. I asked the service rep about any complaints and he mentioned only one that he dealth with. The leather was stretched out bad and they had the seat repadded and the leather stretched in. Although, its still a minor detail to fix, I am a bit let down by hyundai screwing that minor detail. Not a good way to attract lexus, merk and bmw owners into the Genesis. Hope they get that fixed for the second gen.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Upon your guys recomendation, I found some Lexol this weeked, at Walmart no less. took me about 30 min to do the whole car. Simple process.

 

[etaganap]

I purchased a 2012 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 w/Techno Package a little less than a month ago. The car now was just over 1000 miles on it.The Driver's seat has excessive give (very loose leather on seat cushion. The cushion also seems to be sinking. I don't see an issue with the passanger side. What has your dealership say regarding this issue? How did they resolve the issue?

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[homeofstone]

I purchased a 2012 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 w/Techno Package a little less than a month ago. The car now was just over 1000 miles on it.The Driver's seat has excessive give (very loose leather on seat cushion. The cushion also seems to be sinking. I don't see an issue with the passanger side. What has your dealership say regarding this issue? How did they resolve the issue?

Have it checked, however most all brands with seats that have cooling feature do the same. At least that has been my experience.

 

[Mark_888]

The cushion also seems to be sinking.

Can you raise the seat up using the seat adjustments?

 

[kman]

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[eaassoc43]

I had the same problem with my 2012 Genesis, with about the same mileage. My dealer sent the car to a leather upholsterer. It's now apx 6 months later, the car has apx 6200 miles, and I have no problem. The leather is now nice and tight.

 

[427435]

I had the same problem with my 2012 Genesis, with about the same mileage. My dealer sent the car to a leather upholsterer. It's now apx 6 months later, the car has apx 6200 miles, and I have no problem. The leather is now nice and tight.

Did they just "tighten" the original leather or did they put new leather on the seats?? If new leather, did it match the seat backs and the back seats or did they do those also?

 

[QuantumRift]

OK, you have a leather-seated car and it is now cold weather. Seat foam, in cold weather, can compress and not fully re-expand. In hot weather and a large, heavy butt, the leather will stretch (sometimes permanently). Then, with cold weather, the foam contracts and it really looks like leather that doesn't fit. I would think that would be covered by some warranty, either on the car or with the 'interior' warranty. It's not right and should fit properly all the time.

When I bought my 2012 Genesis a month ago, it had 255 miles on it. The outer edge of the driver's side had already began to wrinkle. The outer edge of the foam cushion does not line up with the outer seam in the leather seat either (the edge of the foam is about a half an inch lower than the seam). It is almost looks like the foam is colapsing and is allowing the leather to move? The passenger side looks great, nice and firm no wrinkles. I have taken it to the dealer. The service manager showed me a loaner genesis on the lot with 7500 miles on it and another one that was in for service and the seats on both cars were doing the same thing! He said he spoke with Hyundai and they were not going the replace the seat over a "cosmetic issue", it's just what happens over time as the leather wears. BS, it should not do this after a few hundred miles or a few thousand miles! He said let's keep an eye on it and see if it get worse? I think Hyundai has a quality control issue! I have a call in the Hyundai to see what they tell me? Has anyone else seen this or had this problem?

 

[timc1475]

At 19,000 miles, my 2012 has done the same thing. The dealer has ordered a new replacement leather insert and cushion, saying they needed to be replaced together. There was no hesitation in making this decision. I am waiting for them to call me when the parts are in.

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Thanks for the pic! Mine does the same thing and looks like that too. What exactly needs to happen here is a slight design change to alleviate this buckling and stretching of the leather showing itself to wear prematurely.

I propose a diamond pattern stitching to hold the leather in place and prevent it from this obvious bubbling effect which cheapens the look, quality and general perception of an otherwise beautifully orchestrated interior. The additional stitching also still allows for heating and the cooling airflow. The cost to add a few more stitching patterns to the seat bottom and back would be minuscule. This would add longevity and wear ability & visual appeal to the outer seat surfaces much more than the current design. Example of photo with diamond additional stitching is available at the below link:

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&...30&start=73&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:86,s:0,i:356

 

[eaassoc43]

Did they just "tighten" the original leather or did they put new leather on the seats?? If new leather, did it match the seat backs and the back seats or did they do those also?

My understanding from the dealer, is that a leather upholsterer simply tightened the leather on the seat. There was no replacing of the leather. Now that the mileage is around 6500, the seat is beginning to wear, but nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[RSPEC429]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this so far but Leatherique's Leather cleaner and conditioner is the absolute best out there. My driver seat was beginning to look shiny and loose fitting; after a leatherique treatment, everything was back to normal. Those of you that are not satisfied with how the leather is looking, give leatherique a try before you take it to the dealership for replacement.

 

[QuantumRift]

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