Dunflops vs. Michelins according to Tire Rack users

[joe215]

For those of you who are curious how the Michelins on the 2012 stack up against the old Dunflops (and the other major tires in the category) check out the comparison chart in the link below (see #2):

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...=2012&autoModel=Genesis+Sedan&autoModClar=3.8

I noticed my 2012 does not have Nitrogen filled tires like my 2009 did. Neat idea. The physics make sense (less temperature swing, larger molecule so less leakage, etc..). Just not very convenient. I have an air compressor at my house. Who has a Nitrogen compressor. It's a total pain in the ass to go to the dealership or a tire shop just to get a few pounds of pressure in the tires when they get low. I ended up just using compressed air anyway.

 

[Mark_888]

If your 2009 had nitrogen, that was done by the dealer.

If you open the drain plug on your compressor, and refill it on a relatively dry day, the moisture level in the air will be relatively low and you there will not be much of difference between air and nitgrogen (which does not hold moisture).

 

[Kevinc5a]

Try helium. May lift the car slightly and give you better mileage.

 

[waveman]

Try helium. May lift the car slightly and give you better mileage.

It may not if it reduces traction slightly, or it may do nothing measurable at all. (I assume you were kidding BTW, but maybe this could be something that MythBusters could check out, though it's not an established myth.)

 

[nextcar]

For those of you who are curious how the Michelins on the 2012 stack up against the old Dunflops (and the other major tires in the category) check out the comparison chart in the link below (see #2):

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...=2012&autoModel=Genesis+Sedan&autoModClar=3.8

I noticed my 2012 does not have Nitrogen filled tires like my 2009 did. Neat idea. The physics make sense (less temperature swing, larger molecule so less leakage, etc..). Just not very convenient. I have an air compressor at my house. Who has a Nitrogen compressor. It's a total pain in the ass to go to the dealership or a tire shop just to get a few pounds of pressure in the tires when they get low. I ended up just using compressed air anyway.

how come that list doesn't include certain tires such as the Conti DWS?

 

[Kevinc5a]

I'll go with answer #2...helium filled tires will do nothing measurable at all. I hope it isn't an established myth. I'd love to start a myth, might be fun. I was just trying to take the nitrogen fiil movement to the next level. After all, if helium worked for the Hindenburg...
How about magnets in the tires? Do you think rotating magnetic fields at each corner of the car might increase mileage? Run with it. That one can be your myth.

 

[joe215]

Oooohkay...back on earth, it is common practice for automotive magazines (for example) to fill a vehicles tires with nitrogen when testing top speed on very high performance vehicles to combat excessive heating due to the specific properties of nitrogen. My 2009 came with factory nitrogen filled tires which included blue valve caps with an "N" on them. There was also a blue "N" sticker on the windshield. Several months later, my dealers received their own nitrogen fill machine that could evacuate all the air from all four tires at the same time and then refill them all with nitrogen.

Helium? Nice sarcasm.

 

[Kevinc5a]

Instead of going with a 100% nitrogen fill I have been running a blend of gasses with 78.09% nitrogen. Works for me.

 

[MHT]

how come that list doesn't include certain tires such as the Conti DWS?

That list does not include the OEM Dunlop's SP 5000M either. That is the listing for passenger tires as the Michelin Energy Saver A/S is a passenger tire. The OEM Dunlop's and Conti DWS is on the list for Ultra High Performance Tires. I think one of the mistakes that some people are making is they are trying to cross compare tires which you really should not do, example: The Michelin Energy Saver A/S should only be compared to other passenger tires and not with the Dunlop's SP 5000M or Conti DWS which are both Ultra High Performance Tires.

 

[genesis20]

It was hydrogen and not helium.

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[scottdk]

Instead of going with a 100% nitrogen fill I have been running a blend of gasses with 78.09% nitrogen. Works for me.

Ha ha ha, Lol I've been doing to the same with wonderful results

 

[Mark_888]

Instead of going with a 100% nitrogen fill I have been running a blend of gasses with 78.09% nitrogen. Works for me.

I don't think the air in California is 78.09% nitrogen anymore, ever since they passed the "medical" marijuana law in your state.

 

[ImInPA]

I don't think the air in California is 78.09% nitrogen anymore, ever since they passed the "medical" marijuana law in your state.

Ah, but, it probably really "mellowed" out the ride.