Early Owner Feedback

[ckon]

My 2022 3.3T SP should arrive next week, and I plan to drive it in sport mode all the time, like it's always the case on all my vehicles. The reason is not to drive like a maniac, but because I don't want to lug the engine. In other modes, modern cars run at almost idle, and I feel bad lugging the engine that. I don't think turbo engines are any different than NA ones, but maybe due to their lower compression, they're less prone to lugging? But on the other hand, they run with much higher pressure, due to the turbos. At any rate, I understand sport mode drinks more fuel even sedately driven (like I do most of the time), but you don't lug the engine for sure, and car responds quickly when needed, which is the main reason to use sport mode. It feels lethargic in other modes. At any rate 14 mph sounds really bad, but if you're aggressive with the throttle a little, it's probably normal. But I've read on many reviews that Genesis is at the bottom of the efficiency pile compared to its European competition, so I'm not getting high expectations for great gas mileage. Ha ha. I'm bummed that our 3.3T engine doesn't have dual injection, like the 3.5, which is newer, and more efficient. But it has been proven, so hopefully less likely to have issues. We'll see .

I pretty much agree cuz I drive in sport 95% of the time for the improved response.

 

[WilcoJunoHotel]

Had my '22 RWD 3.3 sport prestige a few weeks now and just got back from a 4 day trip up in the mountains (GA, TN, VA, WVa and KY). A lot of twisties in sport mode combined with some interstate and a lot of 2 lane backroads.

I really like the way the car handles, the power and the comfort. Sport + mode is ridiculous but useful on those tight mountain roads.

Never lost confidence with the handling in the twisties and we were riding VERY aggressively (my buddies were on bikes). The car goes where you point it and it does crazy well on tight switchbacks.

The only thing I don't like is the road noise in the cabin on bad roads. Almost need ear plugs - it is that bad.

The worst gas mileage I got was around 18 mpg which was a lot of hard sport mode riding; The best I got was near 30 mpg in eco mode on the highways at 70-80 mph speeds. I would say mixed use it was 25-27 mpg. I am OK with these numbers.

 

[JCtx]

I really like the way the car handles, the power and the comfort. Sport + mode is ridiculous but useful on those tight mountain roads.
The only thing I don't like is the road noise in the cabin on bad roads. Almost need ear plugs - it is that bad.
I would say mixed use it was 25-27 mpg. I am OK with these numbers.

So what does sport+ does? Maybe like on my ex-Porsche, where the damn thing only shifts at redline, so absolutely useless anywhere outside of a track. But curious to hear. Ha ha. And glad to hear it handles well, although it must be limited with those puny 225 front tires, with a heavy front engine, and 2 tons of weight to steer. I was also surprised to read the front wheels are 8.0" wide, which is ultra wide for a 225. Genesis should have put at least a 235 tire in there, also to avoid basically riding on wheels, and with no tire protection, when it's stretched that far. Oh well. I'm curious to take it to my favorite twisty test road, where the Porsche, Corvettes, and Bullitt could take them at 60 mph without much drama, which is the same as my bikes almost dragging pegs, but I'm afraid this car won't be able to do that, so will start probably at 50. Also have to test body roll, but I'm almost sure understeer will be a problem first. We'll see.

Sad to hear about the stupid cabin noise, which I did NOT want, but was afraid of that, so not a surprise. We're full of crappy roads like that around here (desert southwest), so not looking forward to those trips. Ha ha. I'll definitely switch to the Michelin Pilot A/S4s when the 4Ss are done, since they'll be quieter, and have equal grip in the cool mountains than the 4Ss. But not sure that alone would bring cabin noise to an acceptable level. I'm tired of swapping cars just for that (and still be the same. Ha ha), so if the car is a keeper otherwise, might just tear the inside apart, and insulate it myself at some point. But will give it a try as is first, of course.

Finally, I also read this car has the crappiest fuel mileage of the competition, so also not expecting stellar economy, especially since I'll probably drive it in sport mode most of the time (to avoid lugging the engine, and have responsive throttle when needed). I'll also be okay with that, even with crazy gas prices now. Hey, did you use regular or premium? Just curious. At any rate, the biggest bummer is the road noise, but there's no perfect car. Wonder how the BMW M340i is by comparison. My ex-M3 V8 was quite noisy too, so maybe not that much better. Thanks again for that review.

 

[WilcoJunoHotel]

From what I understand, Sport + mode narrows down the shift points even further and possibly tightens up the suspension a bit more along with a little quicker steering compared to Sport mode. Definitely not something I will use much except on those tight mountain roads.

As for handling, I drove it as fast and aggressively as I could given the speed limits and circumstances. I'm sure I didn't hit its limits but public roads are not where I would push a car to its limits anyway. I never felt like the car could not handle what I threw at it. The torque and power coming out of the turns feels more like a V8 than a V6. It is a lot of fun to drive fast. I'd say I kept it just below the hooligan level most of the time with some stints of hooliganism thrown in every day.

When I bought this car it was between the G70 and the M340i. My heart wanted the M340i and I probably would have bought one had I found one equipped the way I wanted and at a reasonable price. Some aspects of the M340i seemed a bit out of date and the G70 has the M340i beat on luxury. They both ride well on good roads but can't say how noisy the cabin is in the M340i because I haven't driven one on rough roads yet.

My G70 got 29.4mpg on one tankful and that included quite a bit of twisties and fast back roads. I averaged 24mpg for the entire trip of 1200 miles. I kept it in comfort and sport most of that time except for some interstate where I used Eco for the coasting feature. I expect high twenties on the interstate and probably 18-19 around town which is roughly what Genesis claims (17/27). We have mostly 93 octane around here with 10% ethanol and that is what I used. One gas station up in NC only had 90 octane but it was ethanol free and I noticed no difference running that tankful (and we had some hard twisties in that segment).

 

[JCtx]

As for handling, I drove it as fast and aggressively as I could given the speed limits and circumstances. I never felt like the car could not handle what I threw at it.

That's great news; thank you. I thought that with 225s in front, the car would wash out (heavy understeer) at much less than a hooligan pace, but maybe not. But it should be enough for most situations, so not worried about that at all. Plus my wife can't stand more than 0.6G forces anyway, which is a relatively mild pace this car should be able to achieve. But it's obvious the front tires are going to be the limiting handling factor, so maybe the suspension and chassis are simply not designed for higher forces than that. And it'd be understandable, since it's not a sports car. I'll report back to give my impression of it vs the Corvette, GTR, RC-F, Porsche, S6, and Bullitt. Don't expect it to match any of those (maybe the S6?), but I'm curious HOW it drives, and how fun it is, with its more modest performance limits.

 

[Mikey91]

Are there any downsides for constantly driving in sport mode?

I find the sport mode easier to drive than comfort, many times I feel the need to hit the gas pedal harder to force it to downshift and speed up a bit, I still haven't found that "sweet spot" where I can comfortably drive in comfort without having to either push the pedal harder or completely take my foot off the pedal, maybe it's just me but I don't know. I struggle sometimes to keep the car at a constant speed, it will either be stuck at a high gear while slowing down, or it reaches a point where it starts speeding up aggressively where I would be forced to take my foot of the pedal or hit the brakes slightly, which brings up the harsh downshift problem.

In sport mode I find it way easier to control the speed exactly where I want it, I could just slightly touch the gas pedal and it will reach the exact speed that I want.

Does sport mode put a lot of pressure on the engine and transmission? I would love to make it my main driving mode but I always feel that I'm kinda destroying the car haha

And I'm referring to non aggressive driving in sport mode, as if I'm driving in comfort, not trying to go very fast or race etc

 

[ckon]

Sport Mode 95% for me, both cars.

 

[JCtx]

Zero; it just uses a bit more gas, but I also can't see the freaking engine lugging around near idle. Sport mode keeps it near 2K rpm, therefore not lugging. And of course it's more responsive too when needed, which is the other reason to use it. I also drive in sport basically all the time on all my vehicles, and sedately most of the time. You need to have better throttle control, of course, to avoid being 'jumpy'. But that forces you to focus on driving, so a good thing IMO .

 

[G-582398]

You read it correctly. I want a full manual mode where I am in charge of which gear it's in. I want to feel the full natural powerband through my gear of choice. In addition to this, you also get that split second delay for it to downshift instead of getting that power instantly, even though it would be at a very slight mechanical disadvantage by not downshifting. Nevermind the fact that the 3.3's HP peaks around 5.5k, and the rpms above that are declining in power.

Perhaps someday there will be a workaround for this. Some of us love manual transmissions for little reasons like this. Oh well, I knew this coming in to this car, but I still love it despite its *one* fault.

Easy solution buy a car with a dual clutch automatic tranny. Solves your problem. I assume you drive your G70 before you purchased. In the 50-50 K range you get what you pay for and in the G70 you get plenty just not everything. My other car has a Dual Clutch Auto and it’s darn near perfect but costs 30 K more.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Easy solution buy a car with a dual clutch automatic tranny. Solves your problem. I assume you drive your G70 before you purchased. In the 50-50 K range you get what you pay for and in the G70 you get plenty just not everything. My other car has a Dual Clutch Auto and it’s darn near perfect but costs 30 K more.

First, @Toddasaurus sold his G70 a long time ago.

Second, he knew more about the G70 then pretty much anyone on this forum and was a huge contributor.

Third, what he was asking for is available now through TCU tunes.. which were not available when he wrote that post.

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[Dusky]

blimey. that's worse than a Bentley i have ordered my GV70 250t also note the cars price has increased and spec changed on the Uk configurator. might have to have a rethink

 

[williely]

I'm shopping around now for a G70. I'm curious.....has anyone in this forum had any problems w/battery or had to replace your battery?

 

[23GreenG70]

Not that it matters but I believe the Genesis brand is not an economy label but rather an all around quality and great driving offering. I’ve had a 17 G80 and with moderate driving averaged 24.5 over 60K on regular gas and was a joy to drive. My 23 G70 2.0 SP on its first 2 tanks and with moderate driving in comfort averages 23.5 on regular gas and I’m sure that will increase a bit. Before you say “Oh regular gas” I’ve tried the premium twice and saw no increase in gas mileage or performance over 60 K in the G80 and am pleased with the regular gas performance in my new G70. BTW I mostly use BJ’s gas although I put in Mobil when possible. Just my experience and not telling you what you should be doing.

 

[23GreenG70]

I'm shopping around now for a G70. I'm curious.....has anyone in this forum had any problems w/battery or had to replace your battery?

Unsure if Genesis has its own brand of battery anyway. That being said I had a 2017 G80 which had its original battery since it was new and I just sold it on 11/7/22. I’m not letting the battery be part of whether or not I should buy a certain brand of car or determine what I enjoy buying. GM Delhi is a lousy battery imo and I’ve owned corvettes for 22 years and have never had a battery failure until I put a brand New Delco into my 1998 Pace Car and it failed almost immediately.

 

[Volfy]

As large as Genesis/Hyundai/Kia is, they most likely farm out starter batteries to contract OEMs, just like most other car mfrs. Even big mfrs like Ford, GM and FCA that have their own "house brands" (Motorcraft, Delphi, Mopar, etc.), their batts are just relabeled third party products. Quality varies, depending on whom they sourced them from for any given batch.

Even if you buy a brand new car with only a few miles on it, there is no telling what the battery experienced before it got to your hands. Our '21 G70 6MT sat on the same dealer lot for some 9 months before we bought it. It's the reason we got such a good deal on it, but it also meant there is good possibility that the batt has gone flat - maybe more than once - during that time. Who knows? It might have been weakened and could die early. I'm not gonna cry about it. A quality new H8 AGM battery isn't all that expensive, all things considered.

I do load test all my batteries periodically to make sure they don't die when it's least convenient, like in the middle of a long road trip. Otherwise, because the batts in these RWD cars are stored in the nice cool trunk, instead of up front in the engine bay like most FWD cars, they usually last a long time. Heat is the #1 enemy of batts. The replacement batt in my '09 Gennie lasted 8yrs.

 

[Zmanflex91]

I'm currently in the deciding phase on whether or not to buy a G70. I've put down my deposit, and have been talking for a few days with DJ here in Edmonton. I know that there are a couple of owners that have had their cars for a short while now, and I'm curious how the cars have been. Does everything work as advertised? Any issues? Or conversely, is it even better now that you're finding any nice little surprises with the car?

I own a 19 G70 3.3T fully loaded car other then AWD and absolutely love the car! I looked at BMW and Benz as well Audi. None gave me the fully loaded feel at way less the price and still having performance. With a 3.3 twin turbo you have all the fun you need with all the bells and whistles. You can commute to work like normal, then enjoy some amazing acceleration. Not sure why you are buying this car, but that’s my input. I signed and never looked back. I love my car!

 

[23GreenG70]

Zero; it just uses a bit more gas, but I also can't see the freaking engine lugging around near idle. Sport mode keeps it near 2K rpm, therefore not lugging. And of course it's more responsive too when needed, which is the other reason to use it. I also drive in sport basically all the time on all my vehicles, and sedately most of the time. You need to have better throttle control, of course, to avoid being 'jumpy'. But that forces you to focus on driving, so a good thing IMO .

I drive my 2.0 in ECO most of the time. It’s only ok but does the job. When I’m feeling the heed I hit either of the 2 sport settings and I’m good to go. Averaging 25.7 first 2300 miles on regular and I’m satisfied. BTW averaged 26.5 in my 17 G80 3.8 on regular and loved that car. I know my G70 is not a truly expensive car and enjoy it for what it does. Why nitpick it and lose perspective on what it is a $39,500 2023 sport prestige AWD and no more. I’m good with that!!

 

[JCtx]

Why nitpick it and lose perspective on what it is a $39,500 2023 sport prestige AWD and no more. I’m good with that!!

What? I paid $45,120 for my 2.0T SP on July 12, 22, and it's not even AWD, which is about 2 grand more. I didn't get a penny discount, but didn't pay any extras either; just what was billed on the window sticker (mats, etc). There's no 8 grand profit there, so not sure where you got that figure. Or is it used?

 

[23GreenG70]

What? I paid $45,120 for my 2.0T SP on July 12, 22, and it's not even AWD, which is about 2 grand more. I didn't get a penny discount, but didn't pay any extras either; just what was billed on the window sticker (mats, etc). There's no 8 grand profit there, so not sure where you got that figure. Or is it used?

Brand new and read the thread I began about the circumstances involving the purchase of a certified 2021 G70 that went south. It’s a bit long but it will explain the $7500 discount on the brand new car

 

[JCtx]

Oh, that's cool, but that doesn't make it a $39K new car... but glad you got it for that. Ha ha. I was pissed at the $2K surcharge for 2023, while taking out the heated steering wheel, but at least I got ventilated seats, which the 2022 didn't have, and was a deal-breaker for us. Oh well. The good news so far is no recalls on this car, so just hope it turns out reliable. I'm tired of having to swap vehicles every year or two due to major mechanical defects. My stupid '22 Santa Fe Calligraphy has a recall on the DCT tranny, but Hyundai is not doing anything (other than a gimmicky 'software update' that doesn't fix the issue), unless it craps out. Not comforting when it's my travel vehicle, so might have to sell the damn thing yet again (only have 6 months with it). I had a similar issue with a 2016 2.0T Optima SX-L too (the fix didn't prevent engine failure either), but hope Hyundai fixed those engines for good by now. We'll see .