First oil change to Mobil 1

[RickA1]

There are some threads with pics on this subject (2015-2016 V6 only). You can use the forum search, or even google search to find the threads.

Thanks. Found a few. And yes, the filter can be removed from the top. Great!!

You will have to use a Mity-Vac, or something like it, to remove the oil without removing a bottom panel to access the pan drain plug. I think on the V6, that the filter can be accessed from the top, with some difficulty.

Yes, plan is to get a mityvac.

 

[Mark_888]

Yes, plan is to get a mityvac.

Make sure you the one that attaches to an air compressor (any size will do).

 

[waz]

I don't know if anyone would want to try this on their pristine bottom panels, but would using a hole saw to cut a hole to access the oil drain bolt work?

I suppose that would still leave the problem of getting to the filter.

 

[xsolara]

I don't know if anyone would want to try this on their pristine bottom panels, but would using a hole saw to cut a hole to access the oil drain bolt work?

I suppose that would still leave the problem of getting to the filter.

Cutting a hole in the bottom shield could cause more road noise plus letting in road dust, salt and snow....that could cause problems in the future.....
I use the manual Mityvac...pump it about 15-20 times and it removes 7 qts. in less then 10 min (make sure oil is warm). Removing filter is a little tricky but not too bad. to catch the oil when removing filter I placed a modified a MT bottle of oil ( cut the top 2/3rds off and leave about 1" side walls to capture leaking oil...leave the neck and screw cap on... you now have enough room to remove filter and oil....)

 

[18Tmark]

I live in Northwest NJ and I'm just new to the forum and a new 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8 V6 Ultimate owner ... 2 questions if I may. 1 - I gather that you prefer Mobil 1, but, what viscosity/type is recommended? And, 2 - What gas do you recommend, Reg, Mid or Premium ? Also, any other hints would be appreciated. Thank you

 

[Mark_888]

I live in Northwest NJ and I'm just new to the forum and a new 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8 V6 Ultimate owner ... 2 questions if I may. 1 - I gather that you prefer Mobil 1, but, what viscosity/type is recommended? And, 2 - What gas do you recommend, Reg, Mid or Premium ? Also, any other hints would be appreciated. Thank you

The owner's manual says the 3.8 V6 should use 5W-30. That is what I would recommend. OW-30 may be substituted, so long as it is not a European Formula (it would say that on the bottle if it was).

If you do your own oil changes (or purchase the oil yourself for others to do it), then Walmart sells Mobil 1 5-W30 in a 5-quart jug for about $23. I personally am now using Mobil 1 5W-30 EP (Extended Protection), which is about $25.50 for a 5-quart jug. This is an outstanding motor oil IMO.

If you park your car outside in very cold weather, another option is Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy.

But any of the Mobil 1 motor oils are excellent.

The owner's manual specifies regular gas for the V6, however, you may get slightly higher HP and slightly better MPG with more octane. I would not go above mid-grade though on the V6.

 

[xsolara]

Marks advice is pretty solid...I would slightly disagree about gas choice...over the years I have experimented using different grades of gas and I only found that it lightened my wallet... any slight improvements never payed for itself :=)
I did find that if you can find gas that doesn't have corn $hit in it (alcohol) you will get at least a 2-3 mpg improvement

 

[williakz]

Here's where the good stuff lives:

http://www.pure-gas.org/

 

[Mark_888]

Marks advice is pretty solid...I would slightly disagree about gas choice...over the years I have experimented using different grades of gas and I only found that it lightened my wallet... any slight improvements never payed for itself :=)
I did find that if you can find gas that doesn't have corn $hit in it (alcohol) you will get at least a 2-3 mpg improvement

Obviously, alcohol free gas is superior, but is expensive and not widely available, unless you live near a marina (many boat motors cannot use that E-gas) or you live in area where the EPA has loose gasoline pollution regulations (usually in rural areas).

Regarding the use of higher octane on the V6, I would never generalize about this subject across all engines. Many engines would not benefit. I have found that with the Hyundai Lambda V6 3.8, having done much experimenting with this subject, that I do get better results with mid-grade that are worth it to me. Better MPG and better engine response. Actually, I often custom mix regular and premium so that it is a little lower than the mid-grade octane, and lot cheaper.

So my comments about the gas are not absolute, and each person would have to try it and decide for themselves whether it works better for them on any particular engine.

 

[LarryJM]

Obviously, alcohol free gas is superior, but is expensive and not widely available, unless you live near a marina (many boat motors cannot use that E-gas) or you live in area where the EPA has loose gasoline pollution regulations (usually in rural areas).

Regarding the use of higher octane on the V6, I would never generalize about this subject across all engines. Many engines would not benefit. I have found that with the Hyundai Lambda V6 3.8, having done much experimenting with this subject, that I do get better results with mid-grade that are worth it to me. Better MPG and better engine response. Actually, I often custom mix regular and premium so that it is a little lower than the mid-grade octane, and lot cheaper.

So my comments about the gas are not absolute, and each person would have to try it and decide for themselves whether it works better for them on any particular engine.

Interesting comments and I did fairly extensive mpg testing on regular vs premium fuel in my 2013 2.4L Sonata and found no difference. You comments of some engines being more sensitive to fuel grades seems to have some merit and I guess I will have to try the mid grade in my 3.8 to see if there is any benefit or mpg difference over regular.

Larry

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[Mark_888]

Interesting comments and I did fairly extensive mpg testing on regular vs premium fuel in my 2013 2.4L Sonata and found no difference. You comments of some engines being more sensitive to fuel grades seems to have some merit and I guess I will have to try the mid grade in my 3.8 to see if there is any benefit or mpg difference over regular.

Larry

Just to clarify, I would not recommend using premium in the V6. I tried various octane levels, and found mid-grade worked well, but not higher than that. Even a mixture of 1/4 premium and 3/4 regular worked well. Your results may vary.

I would not have expected the Hyundai 2.4L to run well on anything but regular. I am not claiming that all engines are alike, or that they all benefit from higher octane. Clearly, many do not.

 

[kn5owa]

Interesting comments and I did fairly extensive mpg testing on regular vs premium fuel in my 2013 2.4L Sonata and found no difference. You comments of some engines being more sensitive to fuel grades seems to have some merit and I guess I will have to try the mid grade in my 3.8 to see if there is any benefit or mpg difference over regular.

Larry

If you're not already using it, I did extensive mpg testing on Mobil 1 after it was introduced in 1975 and always noticed about a 5% increase in mpg with that oil. Not surprising, since one of the stated reasons for its introduction was energy conservation (we had gas lines in the '70's).

I've used it ever since, and if you work the numbers, it easily pays for itself.

And, for what its worth, I think my V8 gets better mpg with Costco Prem., but I haven't done any serious testing.

 

[BrazGenesis]

Back to the oil subject: I use Amazon & or Walmart to get my M1 5w-30 EP.
What intrigues me is that I understand I have the same V6 engine I had in my 2012 G1.
Well, for the G1 5+1 quarts was enough. (even a little in excess)
Now I see in the manual that something like 7.4 quarts are required...
What happened?
Was it a typo in my Apr 2015 (car mfg date) manual? (maybe V8 specs ?)
TIA

 

[Mark_888]

Back to the oil subject: I use Amazon & or Walmart to get my M1 5w-30 EP.
What intrigues me is that I understand I have the same V6 engine I had in my 2012 G1.
Well, for the G1 5+1 quarts was enough. (even a little in excess)
Now I see in the manual that something like 7.4 quarts are required...
What happened?
Was it a typo in my Apr 2015 (car mfg date) manual? (maybe V8 specs ?)
TIA

Not a typo. They appear to have changed the oil pan and oil filtering process enough that it now requires more oil. Should now be 7.29 US quarts starting with 2015 model.

 

[50jae]

Not a typo. They appear to have changed the oil pan and oil filtering process enough that it now requires more oil. Should now be 7.29 US quarts starting with 2015 model.

This might be a dumb question, but when I got my oil changed, they said I needed to bring in 6 quarts of oil if I want to use my own oil. I presume you would never fill up to 7.29 quarts, and so 6 quarts would be sufficient, no? I always assumed that 6 quarts would be the optimal volume for an oil change on the 2G.

 

[Mark_888]

This might be a dumb question, but when I got my oil changed, they said I needed to bring in 6 quarts of oil if I want to use my own oil. I presume you would never fill up to 7.29 quarts, and so 6 quarts would be sufficient, no? I always assumed that 6 quarts would be the optimal volume for an oil change on the 2G.

OK, I don't own a 2015, and I am just going by what the Owner's Manual says (I have a PDF version). I was assuming that if there was a typo, someone would have mentioned that on this forum, and I don't recall seeing that.

The 2009 - 2013 Genesis V6 used 5.5 US quarts (and probably the 2014 also). Maybe the service advisor just made a mistake and forgot it changed in 2015 to require more oil.

According to the 2015 manual, the 5.0 V8 uses 8.45 US qt.

 

[balfor]

This might be a dumb question, but when I got my oil changed, they said I needed to bring in 6 quarts of oil if I want to use my own oil. I presume you would never fill up to 7.29 quarts, and so 6 quarts would be sufficient, no? I always assumed that 6 quarts would be the optimal volume for an oil change on the 2G.

Incorrect, the 7.29 is the fill capacity after an oil and filter change. The total engine capacity after a tear down is something like 7.6 quarts.

If they are only filling with 6 quarts you will be significantly low on oil, check your dipstick to confirm. I have done 4 oil changes on my '15 3.8 and fill it to 7.3 which nails the top mark on the dipstick each time.

 

[BrazGenesis]

Many thanks for the replies. Clearly more oil is needed now.
I guess in fact a typo would be corrected in more recent versions.