Former owner Hyundai Genesis 3.8 sedan, 2010, mixed review

[greekgeek]

Pretty foolish to dump a car with a 100,000 powertrain warranty because it needs a new engine. What are you smoking?

New engine could have really extended vehicle life, maybe it was bought used so out of warranty?

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Not sure why he didn't have it fixed under the warranty.

I traded my 1st gen in with a bad motor that was being replaced under warranty only because I got 15K off of a 2nd gen and really wanted a 2nd gen. Plus the 1st gen had been in an accident and even though it was repaired, I felt that it had some handling issues even though all was within spec. But that's just me and how I drive.

I But I'd have been fine driving the 1st gen with a new motor. Hell, they replaced the motor and put it back on the lot for sale. Didn't even wholesale it out like most dealers do with trade ins. But I take good care of my vehicles and have had the last 3 I traded in kept on the lot rather than wholesaled out.

And mark, your statement is incorrect, his post should be in the '09 - '14 forum, not the '15 and up forum as if you read his post, his is a '10.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

New engine could have really extended vehicle life, maybe it was bought used so out of warranty?

Nope, said he bought it new and has 80K miles on it, so it should all be covered under the power train warranty.

 

[GenesisAWD]

In your mind you are the forum cop and we must all respect your authority.

This is true. Ol' Nikgen loves telling you/me/whoever what should be posted....what constitutes a good or bad post, etc...

It's adorable.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I'm curious about why the engine wasn't covered under warranty...

Also, I moved this topic to the first gen forum since it's about a 2010...

 

[hooker]

I wanted to add a final post of my experience with owning a Hyundai Genesis 3.8 sedan, 2010, purchased new, and after 80,000 miles forced to sell.
After about 6 years of driving this wonderful car, I had planned on purchasing nothing but Hyundai and KIA products in the future. The 2010 Genesis was good up until recently when I traded it in due to the engine oil mixing with the coolant, apparently a telltale sign of future major failure and expense. I paid $38,000 for this car, after 6 years had to sell it to a dealer for $5,000. That's over $6,000 per year to own this car!
I had planned on replacing it within a year or so with another Hyundai product but instead swore off any future Hyundai purchases and purchased a 2016 Honda Accord. The Accord is a new 2016 updated and changed, flawless car that looks and drives great, lots of room, and gets from 35-40 mpg, without driving it easy! I know from experience that Honda's are pretty much trouble free, look and drive great, and are good on fuel,...things important to me.
After being a huge fan of Hyundai for 6 years, I can no longer say I would recommend buying one. I was greatly disappointed in Hyundai and had planned on purchasing a new Genesis and Hyundai SUV.

That really doesn't make sense. I'd love to buy a 2008 with a new engine. If anything this would be a reason to buy another hyundai. What other manufacturer would put a new engine in a car 6 years down the road and 80k miles later? I'd like to hear why the warranty wasn't put to use. Just don't get it.

 

[Bill K]

This whole thread sounds fishy to me. (unless the owner was from Canada)

Coolant in the oil could mean a warped head from over heating, or it could mean a cracked head from the same thing. Repairs (even on the OP's coin might be worth it)

 

[chris41]

That really doesn't make sense. I'd love to buy a 2008 with a new engine. If anything this would be a reason to buy another hyundai. What other manufacturer would put a new engine in a car 6 years down the road and 80k miles later? I'd like to hear why the warranty wasn't put to use. Just don't get it.

Maybe he didn't have proof of proper maintenance?

 

[PMCErnie]

New engine could have really extended vehicle life, maybe it was bought used so out of warranty?

He said he bought it NEW.

 

[Mark_888]

This whole thread sounds fishy to me. (unless the owner was from Canada)

Coolant in the oil could mean a warped head from over heating, or it could mean a cracked head from the same thing. Repairs (even on the OP's coin might be worth it)

I don't think many Hyundai dealer techs will replace or even repair a head. When the 2012 piston ring problems on the 5.0 V8 were discovered (excess oil consumption), Hyundai replaced the entire engine. When some transmission problems were discovered that same model year, they replaced the entire transmission. We live in a disposable society these days, and it is not always economical or feasible to repair things. Engines are so much more reliable these days that most techs don't have experienced rebuilding them.

I believe someone said the trade-in value should have been $8700 and he got $5000. Maybe the dealer failed to tell him that he had a 100K mile 10 year drivetrain warranty and he didn't know. Or else, (as someone else suggested) maybe he didn't have receipts for all his oil changes.

Sounded to me like he was more concerned about total cost of ownership (and depreciation) over the 6 year period (although his math was a little off if he owned it exactly 6 years).

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[iSOBigD]

The Accord is a new 2016 updated and changed, flawless car that looks and drives great, lots of room, and gets from 35-40 mpg, without driving it easy! [...] After being a huge fan of Hyundai for 6 years, I can no longer say I would recommend buying one.

Yes, 40 mpg for a 200 hp FWD car not one with 333 or 420 and RWD. Honestly, there is so much wrong with this post including the fact that 6 years of trouble-free ownership makes you love a company and think you'll be a lifelong fan but one issue and you hate them forever?

I think most adults should understand that good products can come from anywhere. I love my Genesis but in 5 years the best car for the price could come from someone else, so I wouldn't buy that year's Genesis with no features and bad looks just because I'm a fan of Hyundai. You have to make rational decisions not just go with or hate a brand because of one good or bad experience.

Like everyone said, that was probably covered under warranty, you didn't have to do anything like selling it for a crap value, you could have done some research and saved tons of money even if you paid for the repairs, and you could have researched how much you lost per year which is not much if you sell it for the right price. I'm seeing 2009 Genesis Sedans for $10-15k unless they have crazy mileage.

To give you an idea, a 2016 Civic is $26-36k (here in Canada) and there are lots of 2014 Civics for is $8-9k. So I guess a Civic loses over $10k a year in value right? I guess my point is you had no "review", just an experience where you didn't do enough research, made poor decisions and regretted it...Then made another poor decision thinking a new Accord which will be worth half what you paid next year will be better. (It's literally $40k for a 2016 model and $20k for a 2015 right now on Kijiji)

 

[Mark_888]

Yes, 40 mpg for a 200 hp FWD car not one with 333 or 420 and RWD. Honestly, there is so much wrong with this post including the fact that 6 years of trouble-free ownership makes you love a company and think you'll be a lifelong fan but one issue and you hate them forever?

I think most adults should understand that good products can come from anywhere. I love my Genesis but in 5 years the best car for the price could come from someone else, so I wouldn't buy that year's Genesis with no features and bad looks just because I'm a fan of Hyundai. You have to make rational decisions not just go with or hate a brand because of one good or bad experience.

Like everyone said, that was probably covered under warranty, you didn't have to do anything like selling it for a crap value, you could have done some research and saved tons of money even if you paid for the repairs, and you could have researched how much you lost per year which is not much if you sell it for the right price. I'm seeing 2009 Genesis Sedans for $10-15k unless they have crazy mileage.

To give you an idea, a 2016 Civic is $26-36k (here in Canada) and there are lots of 2014 Civics for is $8-9k. So I guess a Civic loses over $10k a year in value right? I guess my point is you had no "review", just an experience where you didn't do enough research, made poor decisions and regretted it...Then made another poor decision thinking a new Accord which will be worth half what you paid next year will be better. (It's literally $40k for a 2016 model and $20k for a 2015 right now on Kijiji)

I just re-read the OP and I don't think he hates Hyundai. He just thinks cost of ownership was too high over 6 years, and is not thrilled about a head gasket leak.

Hard to say about what happened to the warranty (discussed on other posts), but even if he had no problem the trade-in value is about $8700, not that much higher than the $5000 he got. The 2009 Genesis Sedans for $10-15k you saw are retail, not trade-in (which is wholesale). Plus asking prices are usually way higher than what they will accept.