frequency of oil changes

[calbear88]

The 2012 Genesis Manual mentions oil changes are needed every 6 months or 7,500 miles. My dealer says that is the bare minimum to keep the factory warranty in effect, and recommends oil changes every 3 months or 3,500 miles.

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the right frequency of oil changes.

Thanks

 

[NYCGPS]

The 2012 Genesis Manual mentions oil changes are needed every 6 months or 7,500 miles. My dealer says that is the bare minimum to keep the factory warranty in effect, and recommends oil changes every 3 months or 3,500 miles.

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the right frequency of oil changes.

Thanks

that sounds pretty normal, almost all manufacture has that "recommendation"

I mean if you can't change your oil every 6 months ---- you shouldn't own a car.

7500 miles oil change ain't that bad either, again it's about the same as every other manufacture except for crazy places like in Italy, which they ask you to do an oil change EVERY 20K KM. That's also the reason why their cars never last.

One thing you should remember is that, you DON'T have to do an oil change at any dealership, if you can do it on your own, just do it. It's Cheaper than most quick-lube places.

I usually takes care of every car in my family, but I've been pretty busy lately and my bro's FX had something needs to take care of under warranty, so I took his car to Infiniti and when I was there, I was like whatever just do an oil change, wrong move, gave me garbage Mobil1 5000 and charged me 45 bux.

most important is, you cared about your own car MORE than anyone else, less chance of fuxk ups. right ?

 

[Mark_888]

... gave me garbage Mobil1 5000 and charged me 45 bux.

No such thing as Mobil 1 5000. All Mobil 1 is full synthetic. What you mean is Mobil Super 5000 (or the previous name of Mobil Clean 5000) which is a conventional oil.

 

[Mark_888]

The 2012 Genesis Manual mentions oil changes are needed every 6 months or 7,500 miles. My dealer says that is the bare minimum to keep the factory warranty in effect, and recommends oil changes every 3 months or 3,500 miles.

Just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the right frequency of oil changes.

Thanks

It depends to some degree on how you drive your car and what oil you use. A full synthetic will last 7,500 miles (baring some unusual driving circumstances).

If you drive mostly highway miles (where traffic is always moving), and use a conventional oil, 5000-7500 miles should be OK. If you do a lot of short trips and/or city miles, then 3000 miles might be best for conventional oil.

If you purchased the car and want to keep it awhile, I would recommend a full synthetic. Sometimes it is cheaper to buy synthetic oil at Wal-Mart and bring it to the dealer to use instead of them charging you for a synthetic oil change. But I am always suspicious of what oil they would use if I could not watch what they are doing (which is why I do my own oil changes).

Dealers offer service to make money, not as a public service, as I am sure you realize.

 

[NYCGPS]

No such thing as Mobil 1 5000. All Mobil 1 is full synthetic. What you mean is Mobil Super 5000 (or the previous name of Mobil Clean 5000) which is a conventional oil.

blah, I know, but you get the idea. Mobil 5000 is freaking cheap crap and they charged me 45 bux for it ...

oh well, never again.

 

[Mark_888]

blah, I know, but you get the idea. Mobil 5000 is freaking cheap crap and they charged me 45 bux for it ...

oh well, never again.

Is that their normal oil change price, or did they charge you extra for Mobil 5000?

 

[TJPark01]

I thought the service interval for normal is 1 year or 7500 miles. Did this change for 2012 models?

 

[Mark_888]

I thought the service interval for normal is 1 year or 7500 miles. Did this change for 2012 models?

I don't know if it did change for 2012, but if I had either of the GDI engines, I would definitely use full synthetic and change every 6 months. GDI engines are prone to have fuel dilution in the crankcase.

 

[Rambler16]

The normal interval for a 2012 per the owners manual is still 7500. Therefore your dealer stating that you have to change the oil every 3500 to keep your warranty valid is not valid. My dealer recommended the first oil change at 3500 and then every 7500 miles after that. And they give free oil changes for the first 5 years or 60,000 miles.

 

[NYCGPS]

Is that their normal oil change price, or did they charge you extra for Mobil 5000?

Just normal oil change. Come on it's Infiniti ... like I said, it was a big mistake. for that price. I can do almost 2 oil change myself with Mobil1 or 1 Change with Royal Purple or Red Line or Eneos ...

I put Mobil1 5w30 in it before, it had about 5-6 K miles of heavy use (company car) Mobil1 5w30 is not really True Synthetic but at least I'm sure it's better than MobilClean 5000 ...

On the next change, which is probably due in 3-4 weeks. I am gonna put Royal Purple or Red Line for my bro's car.

note to self : stop being so lazy

I don't know if it did change for 2012, but if I had either of the GDI engines, I would definitely use full synthetic and change every 6 months. GDI engines are prone to have fuel dilution in the crankcase.

Direct Injected engines are more prone to build ups. so yes Synthetic oil is a must.

The normal interval for a 2012 per the owners manual is still 7500. Therefore your dealer stating that you have to change the oil every 3500 to keep your warranty valid is not valid. My dealer recommended the first oil change at 3500 and then every 7500 miles after that. And they give free oil changes for the first 5 years or 60,000 miles.

that's pretty good. oil is not that expensive but if its free why not ?

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[upsbroke]

X2 on Mark888. Without question-use synthetic oil and change or have it changed more than once a year. If you do it yourself-keep all receipts-CYA.
I bought a new Santa Fe in 02 and followed Hyundai's oil change intervals but with synthetic oil. When I got out of warranty- I bumped the change to 10k miles and started changing the filter every 5k. 110k miles and it's still doing fine and not using any oil.

 

[Midnightsun]

If you care about the warranty then it is your obligation to follow the manual and not what I or somebody said. I hear we read the manual yet no one seems to know what normal conditions imply. This is a copy paste from the manual.

Follow normal maintenance schedule if none of the following apply. If any one of the following apply, follow Maintenance Under Severe Conditions.

. Repeated short distance driving
. Extensive use of the brakes
. Driving in areas where salt or other corrosive materials are used
. Driving on rough or muddy roads
. Driving in mountainous areas
. Extended periods of idling or low speed operation
. Driving for a prolonged period in cold temperatures and/or extremely humid weather
. More than 50% driving in heavy city traffic during hotweather above 90f.

Basically no one gets to follow Normal Conditions if you take all that into account.

 

[Mark_888]

If you care about the warranty then it is your obligation to follow the manual and not what I or somebody said. I hear we read the manual yet no one seems to know what normal conditions imply. This is a copy paste from the manual.

Follow normal maintenance schedule if none of the following apply. If any one of the following apply, follow Maintenance Under Severe Conditions.

. Repeated short distance driving
. Extensive use of the brakes
. Driving in areas where salt or other corrosive materials are used
. Driving on rough or muddy roads
. Driving in mountainous areas
. Extended periods of idling or low speed operation
. Driving for a prolonged period in cold temperatures and/or extremely humid weather
. More than 50% driving in heavy city traffic during hotweather above 90f.

Basically no one gets to follow Normal Conditions if you take all that into account.

Those conditions have to be in affect for the majority of the time you drive the car, and not just occasionally, otherwise (as you stated) no one would ever qualify for the normal intervals. It would hard for a dealer to prove to an arbitrator (or a court of law) that the severe conditions applied if a warranty claim was made.

Also, something would have to go wrong with the engine that could reasonably be attributed to not changing the oil on a regular basis. For example, if your gas/fuel injection system failed, they cannot blame the oil for that.

 

[PMCErnie]

Of course, if you live in environs like Miami, Houston, Minneapolis, Chicago, etc. you are automatically in the more frequent oil change category. Personally, I think that following a 5,000 mile/6 months oil change policy is a good system for most folks. If you want to pay extra for synthetic oil, you can go a bit longer. IMO, synthetic oil is not worth the extra cost if following the 5000 mile/6 months change policy.

 

[Mark_888]

Of course, if you live in environs like Miami, Houston, Minneapolis, Chicago, etc. you are automatically in the more frequent oil change category. Personally, I think that following a 5,000 mile/6 months oil change policy is a good system for most folks. If you want to pay extra for synthetic oil, you can go a bit longer. IMO, synthetic oil is not worth the extra cost if following the 5000 mile/6 months change policy.

There is a difference between extremely humid (rain forest) and just humid. One does not need to adjust their oil change interval because they live in Miami or Houston just based on location alone. However, if one lived in these locations and rarely drove for at least 10 miles at a time, during which any moisture in the crankcase would burn off, then more frequent oil changes would be best.

As far as extremely cold, I would not assume that Minneapolis or Chicago require more frequent oil changes, especially if one parks in a garage. If Hyundai required that for all owners in those locations, then they would have to explicitly say so. Also, it is not extremely cold year round.

I personally think synthetic oil is the cheapest and most cost effective thing someone can do to improve the reliability of a vehicle. For me, it is a no-brainier because I change the oil myself and the cost difference over conventional oil is about $15-$20 per change based on prices at Walmart. A 5-quart jug of Mobil 1 sells for less than $26 right now at Walmart.

 

[Gunkk]

Just had the oil changed today. Last time dealer put in a sticker for 7,500 mi w/ synthetic. Today w/ synthetic: 3000. Yeah right!

Looks like there's a new "campaign" afoot!

 

[PMCErnie]

If you think about it, car dealers are doing exactly what many restaurants do to us. Restaurants give us the equivalent of two meals on a plate, when we only really need one.

 

[Mark_888]

If you think about it, car dealers are doing exactly what many restaurants do to us. Restaurants give us the equivalent of two meals on a plate, when we only really need one.

Restaurants serve large portions, because that is what customers want. If customers did not frequent such restaurants more often than those that server smaller portions, they would not do that. You may have heard the old joke "the food was terrible, and the portions were so small."

I am not sure that is what is going on with a dealer (or oil change place) telling us to come back in 3000 miles for an oil change. More like when you go to a doctor about a problem, and they fix it with some medication etc, and they tell you to come back in 3 months for a follow-up (cha-ching).

 

[PMCErnie]

Restaurants serve large portions, because that is what customers want. If customers did not frequent such restaurants more often than those that server smaller portions, they would not do that. You may have heard the old joke "the food was terrible, and the portions were so small."

I am not sure that is what is going on with a dealer (or oil change place) telling us to come back in 3000 miles for an oil change. More like when you go to a doctor about a problem, and they fix it with some medication etc, and they tell you to come back in 3 months for a follow-up (cha-ching).

Basically (many) restaurants, and most car dealers with oil changes, want us to buy twice as much as we NEED. It's just one reason why folks are overweight these days and many vehicles are "double oiled." Restaurants overload plates so they can charge more. Why do you think Mc Donald's hides the 99 cent burger on their menu? It's because they want folks to buy the $2.98 one!

I would agree that many consumers think they have to supersize everything in their lives, like soft drinks, but this is not what they NEED. They have been trained to think this way. For example, many folks drink huge amounts of "prettified" coffee; so much more than their ancestors ever did. No wonder we see so many wiggy drivers on the roads these days.

In summary, we consumers need to wake up a bit. In the olden days, when we could fit into our clothes, we used to eat the 99 cent burger, or just one or two slices of pizza.