G70 to be discontinued

[yngrshr]

I thought Genesis/Hyundai already learned the lesson you cannot do things half a$$ in this country, if you want to truly succeed. They're taking forever to learn what customers want, and that's why their sales are dismal. Compared to the much more expensive 3 series, BMW sold 30,400 in 2022, vs 12,649 G70s... and it was the 3's worst year so far, while G70s best one (49,459 vs 10,718 in 2021 -almost 5 to 1). If you want to compete with the best, at least match the best. The inch or two shorter at the back is a HUGE difference for many folks. And same thing with every performance category. They don't have to offer a ton of features the others make optional, or you're going to be short on other important aspects of the vehicle. The winning formula is to be as good as the competition, but cheaper. That's what Lexus (and others) did. Just cheaper doesn't cut it anymore for a lot of people, as the sales figures confirm. I'm okay with less and cheaper, and that's why I bought my G. But if I wanted an M340i, even if it was sold by Genesis, and the G70 by BMW, I'd pay more for the M340i regardless of badge. Some folks just want the badge, true, but my guess is most of those times is because they know their product will be better. Remember when Hyundai had the steering assist of a 50-yr-old Buick? Well, it took them AGES to correct that (to a point), when it should have been done the next year. And things like that. They wrongly assumed what Korea liked would be fine here, and NOPE. I figured they'd be doing MUCH better market research by now, after hiring key people from the competitors, but I haven't seen those results yet. And it might be too late by now. I just don't see how the heck they can make it as a stand alone entity with those dismal sales, so expect them to fold back into Hyundai eventually (or just disappear), but we'll see.

The back seat room was precisely the reason my wife and I didn't stick with the G70 3.3T and went with the G80 3.3T. I am also 6'1" and I felt very close to the ceiling (unsettlingly close).

The G80 is essentially perfect for us in terms of the size. I wish the head clearance was like the G80 in the G70!

 

[blue92lx]

That's actually really weird to me unless the different models have different seats. I have a 2023 G70 Prestige, I'm 6'3", and this is one of the lowest seating positions I've had in a car. I have plenty of room above my head. Maybe if you're coming from a Porsche or something like that you might feel high up, but I only have issues when I get in my car after my wife has used it and she jacks the seat up to fit her size lol.

Or if you're used to something like an SUV or large car, maybe it'll feel small? I came from a GV70 to the G70 and haven't felt like the roof is too low at all

 

[Volfy]

That is the trade-off with RWD architecture. That Prestige Distance comes at the cost of interior space, because the north-south engine pushes the cabin further back, compared to FWD cars.

Yes, you can stretch the wheelbase longer to increase the cabin size, but that also increase the size, bulk, and weight of the car. G80 is a great car. I drove it's predecessor for some 9yrs and loved it as a commuter and backup family car. But... G80 curb weight is 4112 - 4453 lbs, whereas the lightest g70 weighs in at 3516 lbs. You just cannot fight physics.

Even between our Stinger and G70, the difference in handling is very apparent once the pace quickens. G70 turns in sharper and transitions with less drama.

Not that a mfr couldn't make a heavy car handle well. Panamera is a prime example. However, that requires R&D funding, added systems, and expensive components. Genesis tried to put up a good face with the G80 Sport, but it was universally panned by the automotive reviewers as nowhere befitting its namesake.

This is why compact RWDs have always been marketed as the sports sedan. Most buyers understand the tradeoffs and don't ask for the cake and want eat it too... unless they are willing to pay some serious coins.

 

[YEH]

You know... I agree that the G70 is probably on its way out, but this whole argument that if only it had more interior space, it would do much better is just plain laughable. You know why? Two words:

Kia Stinger.

We have both Stinger and G70, and they are practically the same car under the sheet metal, except... you guessed it, Stinger has a much more generous interior space, thanks to a wheelbase stretched almost 3" longer than G70. In fact, Stinger has more rear legroom and shoulder room than the 3-series. Not only that, the fastback also makes it much more utilitarian than any of the compact sedans in G70's class.

If buyers really wanted interior space as part of your value equation, logic would dictate that Kia Stinger should sell much better and outlive the G70. Well... anybody want to bet with me on that one? I'll start the wager at $100.

Not only that, but if size and value were the key to success, the G70 would've been discontinued already and the Stinger would still be for sale. Instead they killed off the bigger and cheaper version of the car and kept the smaller more expensive version.

Then double down and claim the G70 doesn't sell anymore.

As already explained, the Stinger is a niche (fastback) bodystyle, and despite that, it has outsold the G70 for most of its run.

It would be akin to the roomier 4 Series GC outselling the 3er, but it doesn't.

Furthermore, the Stinger is branded a Kia; the fact that the G70 had consistently lagged behind a non-lux branded model with a niche bodystyle says everything.

What RWD lacks in space efficiency, it more than makes up for in driving dynamics. That is why most folks buy these cars, instead of Camrys and Accords. In fact, the distance between the front wheel arch and the front door hinge line is often referred to as the "Prestige Distance". RWD cars has that generously. Again, as I mentioned earlier... for a RWD platform, performance is luxury. For a premium compact RWD car, performance is what sells. That is how BMW is able to keep the 3-series such a continued sales success. Buyers knows BMW can tune a car into an Ultimate Driving Machine. Even if they end up buying a base model 330i, it is still "related" to - and basks in the glory of - the mighty M3 Competition.

That is what sells the 3-series.

That is what the G70 line ain't got.

Yes, the G70 (and Genesis as a whole) doesn't have a performance variant/sub-brand, but while that hurts when it comes to sales directed at hard core enthusiasts, it shouldn't really affect sales for the meat of the luxury market (non-enthusiasts).

(Keep in mind that while the G70 didn't have the higher-end performance variants, the G70 was found by many reviewers to have better handling/steering feel than the more mundane versions of the 3er.)

Despite having AMG variants, that's not the reason why the C Class sells in the nos. that it does.

The ATS, XE and Giulia - all had/have performance variants and yet all are sales flops.

The IS has a rip-roaring V8, and yet, it is just barely staying alive (not a good sign when a model sees multiple refreshes)

 

[blue92lx]

As already explained, the Stinger is a niche (fastback) bodystyle, and despite that, it has outsold the G70 for most of its run.

It would be akin to the roomier 4 Series GC outselling the 3er, but it doesn't.

Furthermore, the Stinger is branded a Kia; the fact that the G70 had consistently lagged behind a non-lux branded model with a niche bodystyle says everything.






Yes, the G70 (and Genesis as a whole) doesn't have a performance sub-brand, but while that hurts when it comes to sales directed at hard core enthusiasts, it shouldn't really affect sales for the meat of the luxury market (non-enthusiasts).

(Keep in mind that while the G70 didn't have the higher-end performance variants, the G70 was found by many reviewers to have better handling/steering feel than the more mundane versions of the 3er.)

Despite having AMG variants, that's not the reason why the C Class sells in the nos. that it does.

The ATS, XE and Giulia - all had/have performance variants and yet all are sales flops.

The IS has a rip-roaring V8, and yet, it is just barely staying alive (not a good sign when a model sees multiple refreshes)

I mean you're kind of answering your own question/concern.

Every brand that has a high end sports model uses those models for full fledged race cars, and all of those brands sell sports sedans like crazy and aren't showing any plans on dropping the smaller cars with no back seat room.

 

[YEH]

^ The ATS has long been dead, the XE is on its way out and the IS is on life support.

The Giulia is in worse shape than the IS when it comes to sales, but it's not like Alfa has a big lineup.

Also, sales of the 3er and C Class have dropped precipitously the past couple of years - thru June, both have sold around 14k.

Even worse for the A4 at only 8k.

Seems like the MY has really hurt sales (not surprising considering how cheaply one can get into a MY these days), along with the Germans' own electric offerings.

 

[blue92lx]

Point being, all of the cars you mentioned failing are the ones that don't have race teams or a high end sports variant for their line.

Audi, Mercedes, BMW all have race teams in multiple categories using their specialized performance lines. They all have a full brand within their brand that is special.

Hyundai is a perfect example. They have their N line cars, those cars are used in professional racing, those cars are the ones not being killed off. You seriously think people are buying a Veloster to put their kids in the back and drive with 4 people in the car? So why is the Veloster still around? Oh right, the Veloster N is one of their race cars.

The other important thing with having a sports brand within your brand is that's where you do R&D for all of your cars. If they had a G70 N Line the G70 wouldn't be going anywhere, doesn't matter how small the back seat is.

 

[Volfy]

As already explained, the Stinger is a niche (fastback) bodystyle, and despite that, it has outsold the G70 for most of its run.

It would be akin to the roomier 4 Series GC outselling the 3er, but it doesn't.

Furthermore, the Stinger is branded a Kia; the fact that the G70 had consistently lagged behind a non-lux branded model with a niche bodystyle says everything.






Yes, the G70 (and Genesis as a whole) doesn't have a performance variant/sub-brand, but while that hurts when it comes to sales directed at hard core enthusiasts, it shouldn't really affect sales for the meat of the luxury market (non-enthusiasts).

(Keep in mind that while the G70 didn't have the higher-end performance variants, the G70 was found by many reviewers to have better handling/steering feel than the more mundane versions of the 3er.)

Despite having AMG variants, that's not the reason why the C Class sells in the nos. that it does.

The ATS, XE and Giulia - all had/have performance variants and yet all are sales flops.

The IS has a rip-roaring V8, and yet, it is just barely staying alive (not a good sign when a model sees multiple refreshes)

Now that the not-selling-because-of-lack-of-interior-space argument has being shot dead, I'm not sure what is it that you're trying to say... other than the compact RWD sedans - as a category - are not a huge seller? That's kinda obvious and I think we all know that.

Then again, just because the category is not as popular as SUVs and pickup trucks doesn't mean it is destined for the grave. There are still enough folks who see the unique attributes that a compact RWD sport sedan can offer. I believe that accounts for most of us G70 owners here on this forum, amongst other enthusiasts. It's like how a lot of folks have written off the minivan time and time again, but yet every year Honda and Toyota - the two remaining juggernauts in this category - still sell a boat load of Odysseys and Siennas. Even the Kia Sedona/Carnival is still chugging along just fine.

If Genesis chooses to exit the category, that's their prerogative... and their loss.

As Mark Twain would say... the report of the death of compact RWD sport sedans has been greatly exaggerated.

 

[YEH]

Point being, all of the cars you mentioned failing are the ones that don't have race teams or a high end sports variant for their line.

Audi, Mercedes, BMW all have race teams in multiple categories using their specialized performance lines. They all have a full brand within their brand that is special.

Hyundai is a perfect example. They have their N line cars, those cars are used in professional racing, those cars are the ones not being killed off. You seriously think people are buying a Veloster to put their kids in the back and drive with 4 people in the car? So why is the Veloster still around? Oh right, the Veloster N is one of their race cars.

The other important thing with having a sports brand within your brand is that's where you do R&D for all of your cars. If they had a G70 N Line the G70 wouldn't be going anywhere, doesn't matter how small the back seat is.

Um, the Veloster has been canceled.

And do you really think that the typical, lux buyer is even aware of GT3 class racing?

Toyota races the Camry in NASCAR and has won LeMans a few times, but you really think the typical Toyota buyer is aware of that,much less cares?

Plus, Cadillac did race the ATS-V.R and Jag built the fastest saloon at the time with the near 600 hp XE SV Project 8.

Again, the problem for Cadillac and Jag is that they focused too much on performance at the expense of what most lux buyers really care about - interior space and appointment, tech and amenities.

Now that the not-selling-because-of-lack-of-interior-space argument has being shot dead, I'm not sure what is it that you're trying to say... other than the compact RWD sedans - as a category - are not a huge seller? That's kinda obvious and I think we all know that.

According to whom and on what basis (just cause you say so?).

Have given multiple examples of compact, lux sedans which failed when they failed to deliver on things most lux buyers care about.

Why don't you proffer examples of vehicles in the segment that were known to have tight interiors (compared to the competition) that were sales successes?

If the tight interior for the G70 isn't an issue, then why are plans for the 2G G70 for a vehicle with considerably larger interior space?

The CT4 is basically the same size as the ATS (but priced in the low $30k to start, as opposed to the high $30k for the ATS), so should be really appealing to enthusiasts.

But the CT4 only sells about half as well as the larger CT5 - 5,435 vs 9,989 YTD.

The CT4 is pretty much everything that old school 3er fanboys pine for, and yet, the larger/softer CT5 outsells it nearly 2 to 1.

And gee, I wonder why Camaro sales started slipping precipitously once it switched to the Alpha platform despite being widely praised as being the best handling Camaro ever?

Biggest complaint was its tight cabin and unuseable rear compartment (hmm, sounds familiar).

The Alpha based Camaro could run circles around the relatively big, fat Challenger, but despite that, along with Challenger being ancient (finally being retired after a 15 yr run), the Challenger started to outsell the Camaro and it wasn't even close.

The Challenger even started to outsell the Mustang.

Gee, I wonder what the one thing that the Challenger has as an as advantage over the Mustang and esp the Camaro?

It certainly isn't beating the other 2 around a race track.

 

[blue92lx]

So I guess you don't really understand how racing works. It's not about people knowing there are GT3 cars, it's about a company investing in the GT3 cars and that technology trickles down to the road cars. Having a fully functional racing platform in your company is where you put your R&D money to develop new products.

The fact that those other companies have GT3 cars, NASCAR cars, or any other racing platforms, shows they're putting money into those platforms and they're also developing new technology for their road cars.

They're not going to have a BMW M4 GT3 when they're planning on discontinuing it. The too small to sell, by your standards, M4 isn't going anywhere, and its also being used as a platform for them to expand the current technology in all of their vehicles.

I really don't understand why you're still talking about these cars being too small and therefore being canceled. The other brands aren't canceling their cars, so your point as Volfy mentioned doesn't stand up to the test.

Just because Hyundai is canceling some of these cars, they aren't canceling all of them, doesn't mean people don't want to buy them.

I also like how you're using two door sports cars as your "got'em" argument for cars that are too small. I owned three fox body Mustangs, and even back then the back seats were useless. There's a reason two door sports cars have back seats called "insurance seats" and maybe you're not old enough to know what that is. It's too seats in the back that in the past was used to lower the insurance rates as a four seater. Doesn't really apply anymore, but no one in the history of anything has ever bought a two door sports car for the back seat room, and it's always been known that those seats are useless. But since those cars are all being phased out in your opinion, that must be why Ford is moving forward on a GT3 Mustang and they've been in GT4 racing for a long time. But that doesn't make sense, because all of those cars are going away right? So why would they be putting more and more money into their racing platforms and getting into GT3, which as far as I know they've never even had a GT3 class car. So weird since literally no one wants a two door Mustang in your opinion.

You're entitled to your opinion and blah blah blah, but from what I see from the other manufacturers that do small sports sedans, your point doesn't stand up since those cars are being improved and not removed.

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[Volfy]

According to whom and on what basis (just cause you say so?).

Have given multiple examples of compact, lux sedans which failed when they failed to deliver on things most lux buyers care about.

Why don't you proffer examples of vehicles in the segment that were known to have tight interiors (compared to the competition) that were sales successes?

If the tight interior for the G70 isn't an issue, then why are plans for the 2G G70 for a vehicle with considerably larger interior space?

The CT4 is basically the same size as the ATS (but priced in the low $30k to start, as opposed to the high $30k for the ATS), so should be really appealing to enthusiasts.

But the CT4 only sells about half as well as the larger CT5 - 5,435 vs 9,989 YTD.

The CT4 is pretty much everything that old school 3er fanboys pine for, and yet, the larger/softer CT5 outsells it nearly 2 to 1.

And gee, I wonder why Camaro sales started slipping precipitously once it switched to the Alpha platform despite being widely praised as being the best handling Camaro ever?

Biggest complaint was its tight cabin and unuseable rear compartment (hmm, sounds familiar).

The Alpha based Camaro could run circles around the relatively big, fat Challenger, but despite that, along with Challenger being ancient (finally being retired after a 15 yr run), the Challenger started to outsell the Camaro and it wasn't even close.

The Challenger even started to outsell the Mustang.

Gee, I wonder what the one thing that the Challenger has as an as advantage over the Mustang and esp the Camaro?

It certainly isn't beating the other 2 around a race track.

The C-class has rear legroom of 32.0", which is almost 3 inches shorter than the G70's 34.8". If your theory is correct, sales should be piss-poor. Guess what? It ain't. Mercedes sells far more C-series than Genesis does G70.

The perennial favorite of this class, the mighty BMW 3-series, has a legroom of 35.2". So if only Genesis had added 0.4" more legroom, G70 sales would explode?! Gimme a break.

Different mfr's offerings enjoy varying degrees of success. Where is the correlation of that to your fabled rear legroom theory?

Quite on the contrary, just about EVERY single compact luxury/premium RWD sedan line - from every mfr - has at least one halo trim, some have several. Having a halo car doesn't guarantee success, but every mfr understood the importance of it in this segment. All except Genesis.

 

[YEH]

So I guess you don't really understand how racing works. It's not about people knowing there are GT3 cars, it's about a company investing in the GT3 cars and that technology trickles down to the road cars. Having a fully functional racing platform in your company is where you put your R&D money to develop new products.

The majority of lux buyers don't opt for performance enhancements, esp for brands like Lexus and to a lesser extent, Mercedes.

Genesis doesn't offer an equivalent to AMG or M, so they aren't going after the niche performance/enthusiast market.

But that shouldn't matter as the bulk of sales is for non-AMG and non-M variants.

The GV70 doesn't have a performance variant, and its sales are significantly better than the G70.

The fact that Genesis lengthened the WB for the GV70 by nearly 2" is telling, esp. when the GLC and X3 are longer than their respective sedan counterparts by an inch or less (just as it's telling that the planned 2G G70 was going to have considerably more interior/trunk space).

If it wasn't an issue, why would they change it so much?

Also, things Hyundai learns from racing its TCR cars, much less the WRC, trickles down to other Hyundai models which don't get raced (Ioniq 5N, at least not yet) and Genesis.

 

[YEH]

The C-class has rear legroom of 32.0", which is almost 3 inches shorter than the G70's 34.8". If your theory is correct, sales should be piss-poor. Guess what? It ain't. Mercedes sells far more C-series than Genesis does G70.

Manufacturers' listed measurements don't give an accurate picture because things can vary quite a bit in reality depending on how far back/forward the tracks for the front seats go.

Pretty much every review of the G70 harps on the lack of legroom compared to the competition (just like reviews for the ATS), but even worse is the lack of space in the footwell.

2020 BMW 3-series vs. 2020 Genesis G70: Which Is the Better Compact Luxury Sports Sedan?

Teasing out performance, refinement, and value with six-cylinder versions of BMW's stalwart sports sedan and the upstart Genesis G70.

www.caranddriver.com

The Genesis is about an inch wider than the BMW, which gives its interior a bit more elbow room, while the M340i is about an inch longer. The BMW’s 112.2-inch wheelbase also is longer, but only by about half an inch. That additional wheelbase and clever packaging gives the German considerably more rear seat space than the Korean. Rear leg and headroom are tight in the Genesis, and if you’re more than six feet tall, your head will rub against its headliner. At 17 cubic feet, the BMW's trunk also is considerably larger than the G70's 11-cubic-foot hold.

 

[Husky]

I would agree that the published legroom numbers are not always a good indicator of how much actual legroom there seems to be, for the reasons given. That's why there's no substitute for actually getting in the back seat and trying it out - after having set the front seat to the correct position for the driver.

 

[Volfy]

Manufacturers' listed measurements don't give an accurate picture because things can vary quite a bit in reality depending on how far back/forward the tracks for the front seats go.

Boy... as my old classmate from Malawi would say: "The fodya is heavy with this one."

Of course you'd say that... because that number contradicts your argument. Well, unlike folks arguing on forums, car mfrs have to meet government safety safety regulations. To do that, they need to make measurement precisely, repeatably, with industry-recognized standardize equipment, referred to as H-Point Machines (HPM).

H-Point Machine - Standards Development

Excerpt from above URL:

HPM Functionality​

• Design – Establishes interior reference points and dimensions
• Audit – Verifies location of key reference points throughout development and production cycle
• Benchmark – Compares reference points of competitive vehicles
• Layout of basic occupant packaging and architecture
• Positioning of other design devices – eyellipses, head contours, reach curves, etc.
• Positioning of dummies for crash testing and certification of occupant protection certification
• Determination of advertised dimensions – legroom, headroom, shoulder room, hip room, cargo volume, etc.

To measure rear legroom, the front legroom must first be measure and set. The convention is 40" front legroom (50th percentile male). Once the front legroom is set, rear legroom is subsequently measured.

Some established veterans in the automotive press, like Car & Driver, also use HPM, as mentioned in this article (scroll 2/3rd-way down): Car and Driver's Comprehensive Car Testing Explained


But, of course, facts and hard numbers must be ignored when they don't fit one's narrative.

 

[jjsC6]

The discussion seems to be pretty simple to me. If you need more room buy a different car. I’m sure people on the Miata forum don’t bitch about the lack of rear seat room. Ditto the Corvette forum.

I bought the G70 because is is a true sport sedan. I don’t need anymore room. If I did I would have bought a different car.

 

[jetrep]

I don't totally buy the argument that Genesis needs a hotter trim. If they created such an option it would be constantly criticized and compared to the M cars. If it doesn't blow away the M cars (which is impossible) for less money it will not sell and the conversation will be "buy the M!"

 

[YEH]

The discussion seems to be pretty simple to me. If you need more room buy a different car. I’m sure people on the Miata forum don’t bitch about the lack of rear seat room. Ditto the Corvette forum.

I bought the G70 because is is a true sport sedan. I don’t need anymore room. If I did I would have bought a different car.

And evidently, based on the sales data, more buyers opt for similar vehicles (compact sedans) with roomier 2nd rows and trunks.

The Miata and Corvette aren't good comparisons since neither really have competition (altho, there have been complaints by taller drivers who no longer fit as comfortably in the current Miata as they did in previous iterations).

Otoh, as we have seen with Pony car sales, sales of the Camaro (once it switched to the Alpha platform) started falling off a cliff with the most common complaint being its unusable 2nd row.

Also, not a coincidence that the Pony car with the roomier backseat became the best seller despite being on an ancient platform and being well behind the Camaro and Mustang when it comes to handling.

 

[Husky]

Boy... as my old classmate from Malawi would say: "The fodya is heavy with this one."

Of course you'd say that... because that number contradicts your argument. Well, unlike folks arguing on forums, car mfrs have to meet government safety safety regulations. To do that, they need to make measurement precisely, repeatably, with industry-recognized standardize equipment, referred to as H-Point Machines (HPM).

H-Point Machine - Standards Development

Excerpt from above URL:

HPM Functionality​

• Design – Establishes interior reference points and dimensions
• Audit – Verifies location of key reference points throughout development and production cycle
• Benchmark – Compares reference points of competitive vehicles
• Layout of basic occupant packaging and architecture
• Positioning of other design devices – eyellipses, head contours, reach curves, etc.
• Positioning of dummies for crash testing and certification of occupant protection certification
• Determination of advertised dimensions – legroom, headroom, shoulder room, hip room, cargo volume, etc.

To measure rear legroom, the front legroom must first be measure and set. The convention is 40" front legroom (50th percentile male). Once the front legroom is set, rear legroom is subsequently measured.

Some established veterans in the automotive press, like Car & Driver, also use HPM, as mentioned in this article (scroll 2/3rd-way down): Car and Driver's Comprehensive Car Testing Explained


But, of course, facts and hard numbers must be ignored when they don't fit one's narrative.

Interesting. I had not heard of this testing standard. Thanks. I haven't read the linked article yet, but I wonder if it takes into account some more subtle things, like the amount of toe/foot room for the back seat passengers under the front seats? I think this may be one reason some cars seem roomier, despite the numbers.

 

[Backslack]

I don't buy either the backseat or performance argument because that hinges on the assumption that your average car buyer from some other brand actually cares enough about Genesis as a brand to even look up the cars, nevermind go to a dealership to sit in one (not helped by the lack of actual standalone Genesis dealerships). People who take the time to post on this board are enthusiasts and generally more well-informed than the public, but the public is who is primarily buying these cars. The Germans have a loyal base built up over decades that will buy nothing but German, and over time that brand power becomes even stronger. Same could be said about brands like Lexus and Acura, the latter of which makes nowadays mostly forgettable, mediocre vehicles like the TLX that people will just re-lease every 3 years because of brand loyalty. Alfa Romeo experienes the same public lack of awareness as Genesis because they're also a relatively new brand in the U.S. The only exception to this is Tesla, and that's because they created their own niche and are fueled by media hype not seen since the iPhone.

Out of curiosity, I looked up some of the total U.S. sales numbers last year of the compact crossovers compared to their sedan counterparts, and the results are interesting. In 2022, this is what was sold:

Genesis G70: 12,649
Genesis GV70: 19,141

Audi A4: 15,239
Audi Q5: 57,053

Merc C-Class: 26,161
Merc GLC: 65,531

BMW 3 Series: 30,400
BMW X3: 65,800

The G70 is the only sedan on this entire list that makes up more than 50% the sales volume of its crossover counterpart. Of course, it has been documented that the GV70 and GV80 are quite supply constrained, but even then, that doesn't take away from the G70's success. That success shouldn't be determined by whether it outsells the German counterparts, because let's be real- Genesis doesn't have the production capacity nor dealership network nor brand awareness to do that yet with any of its vehicles, no matter how good they are.