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Garage Line Genesis Sedan Wheel Spacers

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Hello Guys/Gals,

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We at GarageLine are looking for a helpful Genesis Sedan owner to help us test a set of Wheel Spacers. We have have a few size options available (15/20/25) we are looking into.

If anyone is willing to help out please fee free to shoot me an email. Only requirements are decent camera to take before and pics and if capable a few rolling shots.



Thanks,
sales@garageline.com :D
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Re: GarageLine.com Genesis Sedan Wheel Spacers

Wheel spacers do not belong on cars for anything other than brake clearance for wheels or for minor adjustments in handling. Spacers larger than 8mm should not exist, as anything much more can upset handling or road manners.
 
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brfatal said:
Wheel spacers do not belong on cars for anything other than brake clearance for wheels or for minor adjustments in handling. Spacers larger than 8mm should not exist, as anything much more can upset handling or road manners.
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This is not exactly true. In the most simplistic benefit of widening the track of a car increases stability. This is undeniable! But there are other reasons one in particular is Manufacturers tend to make the driving experience of a car numb. This generally suites a wide variety of owners. The end result is you have a disconnect from tire to steering wheel. This is done so that you can't feel what is going on with the road, (like driving a Cadillac-err Non Performance Model). If you like this, then the car is perfect for you, don't modify it at all. But if you don't like the vague steering, there are simple things like a wheel spacer that will change the feel of the car when turning into a corner or even driving over less than ideal roads. This is a function of the scrub radius.

I prefer a little communication between the wheels and tires. I am sure a few people around here feel the same way.

Plus a flush fitment looks :cool:

Sales@garageline.com
 
^ Well said. My dad owns a Porsche without power steering...now THAT is a fun car! Love the steering feel of it.

Also, I just though of something and might be down for wheel spacers for my winter set-up. There is about 1mm of space between my wheel weight and my front caliper and if I moved the wheel out...It would clear MUCH better.

Get my email back?
 
Re: GarageLine.com Genesis Sedan Wheel Spacers

Garage Line said:
This is not exactly true. In the most simplistic benefit of widening the track of a car increases stability. This is undeniable! But there are other reasons one in particular is Manufacturers tend to make the driving experience of a car numb. This generally suites a wide variety of owners. The end result is you have a disconnect from tire to steering wheel. This is done so that you can't feel what is going on with the road, (like driving a Cadillac-err Non Performance Model). If you like this, then the car is perfect for you, don't modify it at all. But if you don't like the vague steering, there are simple things like a wheel spacer that will change the feel of the car when turning into a corner or even driving over less than ideal roads. This is a function of the scrub radius.

I prefer a little communication between the wheels and tires. I am sure a few people around here feel the same way.

Plus a flush fitment looks :cool:

Sales@garageline.com
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Technically spacers would make the steering more vague because you're killing your steering response. Absolutely a wider track can increase stability, but you have to push a car to its limits to get there and it would be something you'd more so bring up with someone who does road course track days. On top of hurting steering response when you lower the effective offset you're also increasing tramlining, reducing tire contact patch (not something anybody here would notice though), and decreasing the reliability of various suspension/steering components because of added strain.
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As far a response goes we are talking mm's not inches or feet. The same forces that apply to tramlining are the same on the opposite end steering feel. So it can not be vague one direction but overactive in another (steering input). What is the point of great turn in, if you don't know what the front wheels are doing what good is it.

As for the wear and tear, this is also true with buying after market wheel with different width and offset. To each's own.

Sales@garageline.com
 
OneFunGenesis said:
^ Well said. My dad owns a Porsche without power steering...now THAT is a fun car! Love the steering feel of it.

Also, I just though of something and might be down for wheel spacers for my winter set-up. There is about 1mm of space between my wheel weight and my front caliper and if I moved the wheel out...It would clear MUCH better.

Get my email back?
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I have I'll reply a little later on today.

Thanks,

GL :D
 
Garage Line said:
As far a response goes we are talking mm's not inches or feet. The same forces that apply to tramlining are the same on the opposite end steering feel. So it can not be vague one direction but overactive in another (steering input). What is the point of great turn in, if you don't know what the front wheels are doing what good is it.

As for the wear and tear, this is also true with buying after market wheel with different width and offset. To each's own.

Sales@garageline.com
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15, 20, or 25mm (the sizes you advertised) are enough to make a drastic difference. I'm not sure what you're getting at with your next point, but it's unquestionable that there is a loss of steering feel when you reduce steering response.

I don't recommend running super low offset wheels either for all of the same reason. On top of handling and long term reliability issues you can also run into fender-meets-tire issues. Ideally you want to find the closest to stock offset wheel, regardless of how much wider it is, as the offset from the hub one of the core parts of the suspension geometry that Hyundai's engineers spent a good deal of time and money designing the suspension around.
 
brfatal said:
15, 20, or 25mm (the sizes you advertised) are enough to make a drastic difference. I'm not sure what you're getting at with your next point, but it's unquestionable that there is a loss of steering feel when you reduce steering response.

I don't recommend running super low offset wheels either for all of the same reason. On top of handling and long term reliability issues you can also run into fender-meets-tire issues. Ideally you want to find the closest to stock offset wheel, regardless of how much wider it is, as the offset from the hub one of the core parts of the suspension geometry that Hyundai's engineers spent a good deal of time and money designing the suspension around.
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^ I agree with most of this statement. However, we can't even run 15mm spacers on our cars. I would run into fender. The most I can run is 7mm and that is pushing it....
 

Ultimately, you have your opinion on what you would do. Clearly you are NOT in the market for a set of spacers be it 5mm or 30mm. Despite your feelings there is clearly a market for those that want a flush look or wider stance period.

;)

Thanks,

GL Sales
 
It appears I will need to spec some custom sizes. Machine shop is currently behind on my orders so it will be a few weeks until I have test samples.
 
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