genesis DH vs ?

[Genentec]

hey guys any of u have any first hand experience with this lovely DH and other similar priced cars ? I have a 2011 benz e350 sport and i must say it sucks compared to the 2015 genesis. The ride quality of the genesis is much more controlled and solid, yet still very smooth and comfortable. The e350 is all over the place, wobbly. I feel like im always fighting the car, keeping it in the lane is not a natural feeling as the genesis. Also the throttle feels so much more free on the genesis, not heavy. With the benz it always feels like a struggle to accelerate and maneuver. The transmission on the e350 benz feels so choppy. The genesis transmission feels so smooth and refined.

Any other experiences with other similar vehicles from u guys ?

for a 55k benz e350 car, it is a big joke. the genesis just nails the w212 benz is every way. From build quality to performance.

anyways im waiting till end of 2016 to get back in a genesis. Till then i will drive my benz since I will lose zero dollars on depreciation on it. I got the e350 for a killer deal.

 

[balfor]

Not much experience with German cars but I have had many Lexus GS versions since the year 2000 and also one LS 430 in 2006. I most recently had a 2013 Lexus GS350.

I think the Genesis beats the Lexus GS in almost every area, technology, comfort, looks, size, etc. The only areas the GS is better is in handling (only slightly) and some of the interior finishes are a bit better. Considering the $10k plus price difference, the Genesis is quite a deal and I am very pleased so far.

I do wonder about long term durability, one thing about my Lexus cars is they were for the most part dependable. We will see how the Genesis stacks up long term but the initial build quality certainly seems right there with the best.

 

[LantanaTXGenesis]

hey guys any of u have any first hand experience with this lovely DH and other similar priced cars ? I have a 2011 benz e350 sport and i must say it sucks compared to the 2015 genesis. The ride quality of the genesis is much more controlled and solid, yet still very smooth and comfortable. The e350 is all over the place, wobbly. I feel like im always fighting the car, keeping it in the lane is not a natural feeling as the genesis. Also the throttle feels so much more free on the genesis, not heavy. With the benz it always feels like a struggle to accelerate and maneuver. The transmission on the e350 benz feels so choppy. The genesis transmission feels so smooth and refined.

Any other experiences with other similar vehicles from u guys ?

for a 55k benz e350 car, it is a big joke. the genesis just nails the w212 benz is every way. From build quality to performance.

anyways im waiting till end of 2016 to get back in a genesis. Till then i will drive my benz since I will lose zero dollars on depreciation on it. I got the e350 for a killer deal.

I have to agree with Balfor. I traded in my 2013 GS350 for my 3.8 signature and couldn't be happier. The Lexus was a good car, but there wasn't anything that truly impressed me with it. In one word, it was "boring".

Prior to the 2013 GS350 I drove a 2012 Mercedes E350 Sport, very similar to yours. Great car, but not overly quiet and there's nothing to like about service costs at the dealer. I think the MB was significantly sportier than the GS350, but as mentioned above, it felt like you really had to put the pedal down to get anything out of it. I've had several MBs and BMWs, and I think the pedal resistance is just a part of their engineering.

I'm at 600 miles in my first week in the 2015 Genesis and the only car it faintly reminds me of is the 2010 Jaguar XF that I had prior to the MB E350. Loved the Jag, but the dependability absolutely sucked.

Did have a 2012 Genesis for about 8 months as well, great car, but regretted getting a base model and moved on to the MB E350.

Both the E350 and GS350 were picked up as 1-owner lease returns with about 25k miles. Paid $31ish on both. As nice as they were, it is pretty cool to pick up the Genesis which appears to be superior in almost area brand-new for less than $30k.

 

[smirn0ff]

this days I was driving the Audi A6 of one my friend
The Genesis is a CLASSSSS above the A6.
The Audi had more noise in the coupe, the drive feel was like Im driving my old Optima.
Day after day I understand that the only car that I can by better than Genesis is a Mercedes S class

 

[ksoze]

this days I was driving the Audi A6 of one my friend
The Genesis is a CLASSSSS above the A6.
The Audi had more noise in the coupe, the drive feel was like Im driving my old Optima.

While I do think the Genesis is a fine car for money, the current Audi 6 is an excellent drivers car and no way resembles an Optima.

 

[smirn0ff]

Another thing I forgot about the Genny
Here in Europe it has "all eyes on it" - the people on the streets look after the car, people on the road are inspecting that car, people on the gas stations are talking "gorgeous car".
No one regular Audi, BMW or Mercedes can bring you such feeling.
Also the drive feeling is wonderful. I had the chance this days to drive on mountain routes HTRAC is extremely stable. In Sport mode the feeling is great. I get in corners with huge velocity 120-140kmh (75-85mph), tires are screaming but the car was rock stable.

 

[smirn0ff]

While I do think the Genesis is a fine car for money, the current Audi 6 is an excellent drivers car and no way resembles an Optima.

this was the feeling when you go over bumps on road, the interior is plastic .. driving wheel feels disconnected

 

[Genentec]

the a6 is a passat in disguise, not refined but the marketing involved.

front wheel drive econo midsize car with great marketing.

the genesis is a great refined car but no marketing mumbo jumbo.

this days I was driving the Audi A6 of one my friend
The Genesis is a CLASSSSS above the A6.
The Audi had more noise in the coupe, the drive feel was like Im driving my old Optima.
Day after day I understand that the only car that I can by better than Genesis is a Mercedes S class

 

[turnne]

hey guys any of u have any first hand experience with this lovely DH and other similar priced cars ? I have a 2011 benz e350 sport and i must say it sucks compared to the 2015 genesis. The ride quality of the genesis is much more controlled and solid, yet still very smooth and comfortable. The e350 is all over the place, wobbly. I feel like im always fighting the car, keeping it in the lane is not a natural feeling as the genesis. Also the throttle feels so much more free on the genesis, not heavy. With the benz it always feels like a struggle to accelerate and maneuver. The transmission on the e350 benz feels so choppy. The genesis transmission feels so smooth and refined.

Any other experiences with other similar vehicles from u guys ?

for a 55k benz e350 car, it is a big joke. the genesis just nails the w212 benz is every way. From build quality to performance.

anyways im waiting till end of 2016 to get back in a genesis. Till then i will drive my benz since I will lose zero dollars on depreciation on it. I got the e350 for a killer deal.

sounds you bought an Mercedes E350 that had been in a large wreck previously

wobbly and uncertain is something that German cars just dont do...even down to the economy ones

The E class is the standard bearer of mid size luxury

I suspect there is something wrong with the car you bought and you take it to the Mercedes dealer for diagnosis

Warren

 

[turnne]

this was the feeling when you go over bumps on road, the interior is plastic .. driving wheel feels disconnected

the a6 is a passat in disguise, not refined but the marketing involved.

front wheel drive econo midsize car with great marketing.

the genesis is a great refined car but no marketing mumbo jumbo.

interesting

The last A6 I looked at at had a very refined interior...and 95% of them I have seen have been AWD

I have not looked at the G2 Genesis...is the interior better than the Equus?

I have an Equus..and honestly...its has more plastic than the last Mercedes I owned...an S class

Warren

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[StarPower]

Of all the cars I've owned or driven, the Genesis feels most like the CL Class. It has a similar solid, stable feeling. I think that's largely due to weight. More mass takes more force to move, so a heavier car will feel more stable than a lighter car. On the other hand, a lighter car will corner better and generally feel sportier for the same reason.

 

[Genentec]

it's not a wreck repair car. I know my cars.

i drove a few other ones as well and felt the same.

sounds you bought an

Mercedes E350 that had been in a large wreck previously

wobbly and uncertain is something that German cars just dont do...even down to the economy ones

The E class is the standard bearer of mid size luxury

I suspect there is something wrong with the car you bought and you take it to the Mercedes dealer for diagnosis

Warren

 

[jimb100]

I find it very difficult to compare the Genesis 5.0 to the Europeans, apples to apples.
It's bigger and nicer than an A6. Bigger than an A7 but not as nimble, almost as fast. Similar in size to an A8 or S class but the Germans material quality is better. It should be for the difference in price. I don't see the engineering as a lot better.
The Genesis would slot between a 5 series and a 7 series but BMW doesn't have a car in that spot.
Again, the Genesis is bigger than an E class, more like a CL but about the size of an S class, lacking the better quality materials in the interior of the S class.
I don't think there is an American car that compares. The new Cadillac's that are similar in size haven't been out long enough to be well evaluated.
The Genesis is what it is and if you like it that's good enough. Finding a fair comparison in another make is tough.

 

[Genentec]

imo interior is better than the equus.

its mainly the ride quality. its very nimble tight yet still sporty and balanced.

the drive is very superior IMO , and the v6 is plenty. my 2011 e350 feels inadequate, but i think its due to the mpg saving throttle response that mercedes set on it. its very dampened, the rpm doesnt swing very high.

interesting

The last A6 I looked at at had a very refined interior...and 95% of them I have seen have been AWD

I have not looked at the G2 Genesis...is the interior better than the Equus?

I have an Equus..and honestly...its has more plastic than the last Mercedes I owned...an S class

Warren

 

[AustinTX]

I have owned three Audi's (an A8L and two A6's) before my current 2015 Genesis. The amount of misinformation in this thread is appalling.

If anyone here is deluding themselves into thinking the Genesis is actually better than these, I highly recommend you visit your local Audi dealer and book a test drive in an A6.

Audi interiors are the benchmark of the industry, the Genesis has copied several design features from Audi, including the controller on the Ultimate version that resembles the Audi MMI system.

The Audi A6 was NEVER based on a VW Passat platform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_C_platform

The Genesis is a great car - it certainly isn't better than the current generation German offerings in the same class. The main appeal of the Genesis is it's value for money. An equivalent A6 to my Genesis is about $17,000 more - the lease is 2x that of my Genesis. If the prices of the Audi were closer to the Genesis, I would be driving the Audi - no contest.

I was quoted close to $1,000/month for a new A6 Prestige 3.0T quattro lease - not a price I am willing to pay. I got the Genesis for way less than half that.

The Genesis has so far been a great car, but it's not on par with the current generation A6 - and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[haiku]

Prior to my Genesis (Ultimate) I had an A6 Quattro. I really like the Genesis, but the A6 was a superior car in handling and feel. It had nothing to do with the Passat.

I looked at the MB E350, the BMW 5 series, the Infinity, all 3 Lexus models and the Genesis. I ended up choosing between another A6 and the Genesis.

While the A6 handles better and far sportier, the Genesis is a much better value than the A6 - when I was comparing it was between $15,000 and $20,000 more expensive for similar options and did not offer the 5 year/100,000 mile warranty. When Audis break they are very expensive.

The control knob is much safer to use when driving than touchscreen - it requires only a glance to two at the screen, so that similarity to the Audi (compared to other brands) was a real plus. Room in the trunk for a full-sized spare is another Genesis plus.

My 2 cents worth.

 

[ksoze]

I have owned three Audi's (an A8L and two A6's) before my current 2015 Genesis. The amount of misinformation in this thread is appalling.

If anyone here is deluding themselves into thinking the Genesis is actually better than these, I highly recommend you visit your local Audi dealer and book a test drive in an A6.

Thanks for the needed dose of reality. I also agree, the Genesis is a great bargain, but no one who has driven a recent Audi A6/7/9 will put them is the same league (or price) of the Genesis.

 

[MikeyTG]

I did test drive an A6 before i bought the Genesis. I found it to be somewhat cramped inside, it actually felt smaller than the 2012 Sonata I was driving. It also seemed like some of the tech stuff was added on instead of integrated into the design from the start. For instance, to add a HUD meant you had an add-on pod on top of the dashboard and the main screen was in another motorized pod that stuck out of the dashboard like a sore thumb.

Also, instead of a few option packages there were a myriad of options available that added up to a much higher price than a similar Genesis plus to get the exact car I wanted meant ordering it from Germany.

A nice car, but I could not see how it was worth the extra money.

 

[Midnightsun]

Not that I know anything about this however all the reviews I have read regarding the Gen1 Genesis which is a carry over to the Gen 2 DIS control, say they copied it straight from BMW. The Gen 2 took it one step further which is great as it is now both touch screen and rotary knob so one has the best of both worlds. Makes one wonder if Audi got the idea from BMW or visa versa. I would agree the Audi may be a step ahead however the Genesis is much better at staying away from the repair department than an Audi could ever dream about. In this case I do know what I am talking about as my son in law owns an Audi/Volkswagen/Porsche repair facility and he makes money like collecting rain water in the Amazon jungle.