Genesis Free NACS Adapter Thread: Post Your Updates

[DS9]

Just like Ed said about the Genesis GV70ev. Ordered the A2Z off Amazon for $179 and got it in a day or two, installed the Tesla app and added a credit card. First try failed because I didn't push the Tesla connector in until I heard the click. Lights came on in the GV70EV and I charged at 123kWh for 18 minutes (37.8 kWh for $18.53. ) We charge at home at $.14 a kWh, so the $.48 per kWh premium is just a lifesaver on the road. The GV70ev will make its maiden voyage in a few weeks to Myrtle Beach, which has been out of reach because the nearest Electrify America supercharger is 80 miles away. Thank you, Ed.

Myrtle beach is definitely a CCS charging desert. We took a trip to Carolina beach last year and the EA in Lumberton was one of our only choices. Meanwhile in Wilmington they were a couple TSC stations.

 

[noremacnova]

I'm hoping that the confirmed inclusion of Tesla Supercharger station location and status in the April 2025 Nav update is a good indicator that Genesis is now ready to get those adapters out the door as well!

 

[skiingj]

Near Sacramento, CA EA charges ~.55kw. My local utility charges .13kw anytime of the day. I still charge at EA because it’s complimentary. Do these adapters allow you to charge from a Tesla home charger?

 

[Looney100]

I heard back from Genesis Canada today. They confirmed that they will NOT be providing adapters free of charge to Canadian customers.

 

[ideutsch]

Near Sacramento, CA EA charges ~.55kw. My local utility charges .13kw anytime of the day. I still charge at EA because it’s complimentary. Do these adapters allow you to charge from a Tesla home charger?

No, you’ll need a different adapter for AC charging from a Tesla/NACS connector.

 

[tvmaster]

Near Sacramento, CA EA charges ~.55kw. My local utility charges .13kw anytime of the day. I still charge at EA because it’s complimentary. Do these adapters allow you to charge from a Tesla home charger?

.13kw at home, in Ca.? Edison? Our SDGE rate is .22kw minimum, between 12am and 6am I believe. .13 is cheap

 

[skiingj]

.13kw at home, in Ca.? Edison? Our SDGE rate is .22kw minimum, between 12am and 6am I believe. .13 is cheap

Yes, Roseville. We are not part of CAISO = no rolling blackouts and no PG&E BS. They also buy back my excess solar, I think that’s at 7 cents.

 

[EVsquatch]

I heard back from Genesis Canada today. They confirmed that they will NOT be providing adapters free of charge to Canadian customers.

I purchased the Ford Lectron Adapter which is on sale now for 15% percent off if you register a free account at Ford.com.

Ford worked with Lectron to create a more robust version of their Lectron Vortex adapter and it is certified by Ford. Tesla has specifically stated that 3rd party adapters are NOT approved to be used on Tesla Super Chargers.

I'm not saying anything bad will happen with the use of a 3rd party adapter, but Tesla basically will hold you responsible if something happens. My logic for getting the Ford adapter is that it is an OEM certified adapter - even if it isn't Hyundai/Genesis.

If and when Genesis gets around to sending one, I'll use it on the GV60 and use my Ford for my BMW i3s which is likely not getting a free adapter from BMW.

https://www.ford.com/product/ford-fast-charging-adapter-nacs-p2999073032

 

[GreyGV60]

Near Sacramento, CA EA charges ~.55kw. My local utility charges .13kw anytime of the day. I still charge at EA because it’s complimentary. Do these adapters allow you to charge from a Tesla home charger?

In the San Francisco, CA area EA now charges .69kw! My local utility charges .44kw. My local time of use Tesla price (non Tesla membership) is .39kw.

 

[tvmaster]

Yes, Roseville. We are not part of CAISO = no rolling blackouts and no PG&E BS. They also buy back my excess solar, I think that’s at 7 cents.

Damn, jealous down here. Really jealous. SDGE are slime

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[tvmaster]

Currently testing out my new A2Z adapter. Charging at a Tesla SC is so much easier than EA. It just works! I do have to say, though, I’m a little disappointed in the speed I’m getting. I’m at 65% SOC and only getting 44kw. Outside temp is about 65F. Is this normal?

Edit: After about 15 minutes, it jumped up to 97kw and holding steady

Did anyone at Genesis give you an answer of "any use of a 3rd party adapter will void your warranty", followed by; "there isn't a Genesis factory oem part available, and no, Hyundai parts are not compatible with Genesis charging system"
That's what I was gold today by my local Genesis parts department.

 

[Ed_S]

Did anyone at Genesis give you an answer of "any use of a 3rd party adapter will void your warranty", followed by; "there isn't a Genesis factory oem part available, and no, Hyundai parts are not compatible with Genesis charging system"
That's what I was gold today by my local Genesis parts department.

IMO, what Genesis told you was nonsense, hope this was just an employee handing out misinformation and not the corporate position.

1. If perchance there was failure while charging with a 3rd party adaptor of either the vehicle or the charger, they would need to prove that the root cause of the damage was the 3rd party adaptor in order to deny warranty claims. While it's possible that a cheaply made adaptor could cause damage, adaptors from the likes of A2Z or Lectron should not cause any issues.
2. To say that the Hyundai adaptor is not compatible with the Genesis vehicles is B/S. While it's possible that the Hyundai adaptor will have a different p/n than the Genesis adaptor (have no idea why they would do that unless they want to make the Genesis adaptor appear to be "premium" for a "premium" vehicle), the Hyundai/Kia/Genesis adaptors will all be interchangeable with each other.
3. All the adaptors are doing is connecting one well defined controlled interface (CCS) to another well defined controlled interface (NACS). There is no magic here, no software, no firmware, just wiring, thermal sensors. Adaptors need to be designed to handle the current and heat dissipation, not much else there.

For the record, I have an A2Z Typhoon adaptor, use it to charge my Polestar PS2 and my Genesis GV70, no issues at all.

In hindsight, might have been better if all adaptors just came from Tesla (or some other single source) instead of having each EV manufacturer designing their own adaptors and stating that it can only be used on their particular EV model, else you void warranty.

 

[skiingj]

Damn, jealous down here. Really jealous. SDGE and slime

I would take living in San Diego any day over Sac.

 

[tvmaster]

IMO, what Genesis told you was nonsense, hope this was just an employee handing out misinformation and not the corporate position.

1. If perchance there was failure while charging with a 3rd party adaptor of either the vehicle or the charger, they would need to prove that the root cause of the damage was the 3rd party adaptor in order to deny warranty claims. While it's possible that a cheaply made adaptor could cause damage, adaptors from the likes of A2Z or Lectron should not cause any issues.
2. To say that the Hyundai adaptor is not compatible with the Genesis vehicles is B/S. While it's possible that the Hyundai adaptor will have a different p/n than the Genesis adaptor (have no idea why they would do that unless they want to make the Genesis adaptor appear to be "premium" for a "premium" vehicle), the Hyundai/Kia/Genesis adaptors will all be interchangeable with each other.
3. All the adaptors are doing is connecting one well defined controlled interface (CCS) to another well defined controlled interface (NACS). There is no magic here, no software, no firmware, just wiring, thermal sensors. Adaptors need to be designed to handle the current and heat dissipation, not much else there.

For the record, I have an A2Z Typhoon adaptor, use it to charge my Polestar PS2 and my Genesis GV70, no issues at all.

In hindsight, might have been better if all adaptors just came from Tesla (or some other single source) instead of having each EV manufacturer designing their own adaptors and stating that it can only be used on their particular EV model, else you void warranty.

Oh yeah, I totally agree that the parts guy was completely wrong. Genesis Customer Service pretty much conflicted everything he said except for the 3rd party nonsense, because honestly, they couldn't find it in the telephone self-help book. I thought I had read here somewhere that the Lectron wasn't a good idea, but if you've had no problems, please send the part # and I'll compare to the A2Z.
Coupled with the ridiculous "free adapter for cars bought before Feb 1st" policy, I'm a little miffed at the gourmet Genesis brand at the moment...

 

[tvmaster]

I would take living in San Diego any day over Sac.

Well, there is that...lol

 

[Ed_S]

Oh yeah, I totally agree that the parts guy was completely wrong. Genesis Customer Service pretty much conflicted everything he said except for the 3rd party nonsense, because honestly, they couldn't find it in the telephone self-help book. I thought I had read here somewhere that the Lectron wasn't a good idea, but if you've had no problems, please send the part # and I'll compare to the A2Z.
Coupled with the ridiculous "free adapter for cars bought before Feb 1st" policy, I'm a little miffed at the gourmet Genesis brand at the moment...

I don't have the Lectron Adapter, I've got the "A2Z EV NACS to CCS1 Adapter / Typhoon Pro", no issues with it and it came with a nice carry case. I purchased the A2Z adapter instead of the Lectron Adapter primarily because of price, and reviews in the various EV forums. If I remember right, the first release of the Lectron Adapter might have had some issues, which Lectron did address. I would have no issue owning either one at this point in time, both quality companies that stand by their product, IMO.

 

[secondo]

Mine is the Lectron Vortex and I didn't do a ton of research. I found some website reviewing them and it picked the Vortex as the best, but I never know how much to trust those types of reviews (did they pay for the converters? Did they get perks for reviewing them...). It seems solidly built and they had it on sale for $157. I have only used it once and have never used a different brand so I'm not the ideal reviewer myself!

 

[EVsquatch]

IMO, what Genesis told you was nonsense, hope this was just an employee handing out misinformation and not the corporate position.

1. If perchance there was failure while charging with a 3rd party adaptor of either the vehicle or the charger, they would need to prove that the root cause of the damage was the 3rd party adaptor in order to deny warranty claims. While it's possible that a cheaply made adaptor could cause damage, adaptors from the likes of A2Z or Lectron should not cause any issues.
2. To say that the Hyundai adaptor is not compatible with the Genesis vehicles is B/S. While it's possible that the Hyundai adaptor will have a different p/n than the Genesis adaptor (have no idea why they would do that unless they want to make the Genesis adaptor appear to be "premium" for a "premium" vehicle), the Hyundai/Kia/Genesis adaptors will all be interchangeable with each other.
3. All the adaptors are doing is connecting one well defined controlled interface (CCS) to another well defined controlled interface (NACS). There is no magic here, no software, no firmware, just wiring, thermal sensors. Adaptors need to be designed to handle the current and heat dissipation, not much else there.

For the record, I have an A2Z Typhoon adaptor, use it to charge my Polestar PS2 and my Genesis GV70, no issues at all.

In hindsight, might have been better if all adaptors just came from Tesla (or some other single source) instead of having each EV manufacturer designing their own adaptors and stating that it can only be used on their particular EV model, else you void warranty.

Genesis has an easy path to deny warranty coverage. Tesla has stated and most 3rd party adapters provide the disclaimer somewhere that no third party adapters are authorized to be used on the Tesla Super Charger network. That disclaimer means you bear full responsibility.

I really hate this situation because it puts us in a precarious position. I chose the Ford Lectron adapter because it is not a 3rd party adapter. It is OEM certified so that is one less piece of liability to worry about.

 

[Ed_S]

Genesis has an easy path to deny warranty coverage. Tesla has stated and most 3rd party adapters provide the disclaimer somewhere that no third party adapters are authorized to be used on the Tesla Super Charger network. That disclaimer means you bear full responsibility.

I really hate this situation because it puts us in a precarious position. I chose the Ford Lectron adapter because it is not a 3rd party adapter. It is OEM certified so that is one less piece of liability to worry about.

If using a 3rd party adapter and a failure occurs in either the vehicle or the charging station, the general consensus is that the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act would prevent either Tesla or the EV OEM from denying warranty coverage unless they could prove that the 3rd party adapter was the root cause of failure. This is similar to having an engine failure in a BMW (for example) and BMW denies coverage because you did not use the official BMW Oil and Oil Filter.

In your example, even using the Ford Lectron Adapter in your GV60 wouldn't absolutely protect you as the Ford Lecton adapter is certified for use in Ford EV's, not Genesis EV's.

At the end of the day, if a failure occurs using a 3rd party adapter, it would be incumbent upon the OEM to prove that the adapter was the cause of failure.

 

[gknyce]

Someone on Reddit finally reported getting an email from Genesis for the NACS adapter...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GV60/s/PQZFG8A1Pv