Genesis Sedna Failed Airbag!!

[pedo]

Safety concerns rising about Hyundai Genesis in Korea

Hyundai Genesis sedna don't work air-bag at Accident in Korea.
Driver is dead and hyundai told that airbag is normality, and the airbag module is bosch, apply logic is normal condition.
Genesis cintained 8 airbag, but don't activated nothing on Accident.


Safety concerns rising about Hyundai Genesis in Korea


Hyundai Genesis got into fatal accident, none of airbag deployed. The car fishtailed in rain, and hit a stone monument on its side. The driver was wearing the seatbelt, however, none of airbags deployed and the driver was killed. The car was fully loaded with 8 airbags, including side curtain. Hyundai rep says "Airbags deploy only if the impact was within 30 degree angle from the sensor at over 30kph (19mph)". In other words, the rep is saying that the airbag was not deployed because the impact was not within 30 degree angle from the sensor and/or slower than 19mph, despite the car is severely damaged (especially on its side), obviously totaled and the driver with seatbelt on was killed. This could be a 'perfect storm' not to fire any of the airbag though. However, the issue is growing up in Korea as well as concerns regarding Hyundai Genesis' safety.


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Hyundai cars often don't work airbag on car accident in korea.
Korea domestic genesis applied smart airbag system, not advanced.

 

[homeofstone]

This may be a concern, however impacts can be strange in the way energy can be displaced in a crash. My son was hit at an angle headon in his 99 nustang by a DUI driver in a large SUV. His car was spun and dragged and slamed into guard rail at about 40 mph, no airbags deployed in either vehicle, go figure. BTW my son is recovering ok, no broken bones. Anyone here any reports about the Genesis in the USA regarding the airbags?

 

[dbthompson]

Troll.

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

Interesting first post from a Gen non-owner!
But since you raised the issue:

Many motorists feel more secure in their cars, knowing that in the event of a serious collision, an airbag will deploy and perhaps save them from fatal injuries. But airbags don't always deploy when drivers think they should.

"I had an accident on May 8, 2010 in my 2007 Corolla LE. The driver door was crushed and the car declared totaled," Lauren, of Mount Verson, N.Y., told ConsumerAffairs.com. "My car had six airbags. Not one airbag deployed to protect me from the inside of the car."

Lauren wanted to know why her airbags didn't deploy. After all, she was in a collision serious enough to total her car. Shouldn't the airbags have popped out? Not necessarily.
"Mind you that the car and I were slammed from the middle of the street to up on the sidewalk."

But that doesn't necessarily mean the airbags failed. And the speed of the car and the force of the impact don't, in and of themselves, determine when the airbags spring into action.

"Because air bag sensors measure deceleration, vehicle speed and damage are not good indicators of whether or not an air bag should have deployed," NHTSA said on its website. "Occasionally, air bags can deploy due to the vehicle's undercarriage violently striking a low object protruding above the roadway surface. Despite the lack of visible front-end damage, high deceleration forces may occur in this type of crash, resulting in the deployment of the air bag."

Since the late 1990s, the effort has been to reduce the instances of airbag deployment, not increase them. The reason is airbags -- while they can save your life in a head-on crash -- can just as easily kill or injure you if they deploy under other circumstances.

While noting that serious airbag injuries are rare, NHTSA says they can happen.

"Serious or even fatal injuries can occur when someone is very close to, or in direct contact with an air bag module when the air bag deploys," NHTSA said.

With recent emphasis on preventing potential airbag injuries, and with onboard computers deciding to deploy or not to deploy, its perhaps not surprising that airbags don't deploy in every collision, even in ones where occupants think they should have.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2010/05/airbags_deployment.html

 

[Ruissimo]

THIS JUST IN! SELL YOUR GENESIS SEDANS NOW AND GO BUY A SUPERIOR PRODUCT FROM JAPAN!

I see trolls. They're everywhere, walking around like regular people. They don't know that they're trolls.

(rolls eyes)

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

THIS JUST IN! SELL YOUR GENESIS SEDANS NOW AND GO BUY A SUPERIOR PRODUCT FROM JAPAN!

I see trolls. They're everywhere, walking around like regular people. They don't know that they're trolls.

(rolls eyes)

Nah, don't panic. It's only the Sednas that do this. The Sedans are fine.

 

[socarwolverine]

Nah, don't panic. It's only the Sednas that do this. The Sedans are fine.

yeah that little nugget was foreshadowing the quality of grammar the rest of the post would have...

 

[Rey]

I was in a serious crash with my 2009 Genesis last November. It was a snowstorm sudden whiteout. I was pulling out to pass a truck on an ND interstate when it happened. It was a very brief whiteout. I held my speed and position, but the truck dynamited his brakes. When vision cleared I was halfway into the clear left land and ten feet from the rear of the truck traveling at least 50 mph faster.
It was a hard impact. Both front airbags deployed. The deployment was so fast that I never saw the bags inflate. I just saw them deflate. I never felt any restraint from the airbags so I guess their deployment is fairly gentle. My wife had a few minor cuts from broken windshield glass.
The car was totaled, and "adjusting" valuation with my insurance company was a major hassle.
My point is that the airbags worked as advertised and may have saved us from serious injury. Additional point is that the structure of the car was such that the body took the impact. Other than a broken windshield and a buckled passenger door there were no intrusions into the passenger compartment.

 

[STREETS]

Strange the occupant died- (if it was the driver) as the drivers compartment looks pretty darn good. From experience and viewing NHTSA side crash tests at 30-35 mph- doubtful this was just at 19 mph.

 

[Gambler]

One incident of something means nothing to me. It could be one of several parts that failed. Stuff fails, them are the breaks. Show me a pattern, and then I'll care.

Also, the car fishtailing in the rain...is that even possible with traction control on? I've tried some pretty crazy stuff on slippery surfaces, and never had any control issues whatsoever. The traction control is VERY active on this car. My B.S. alarm went off a little when I read that line.

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[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

I was in a serious crash with my 2009 Genesis last November. It was a snowstorm sudden whiteout. I was pulling out to pass a truck on an ND interstate when it happened. It was a very brief whiteout. I held my speed and position, but the truck dynamited his brakes. When vision cleared I was halfway into the clear left land and ten feet from the rear of the truck traveling at least 50 mph faster.
It was a hard impact. Both front airbags deployed. The deployment was so fast that I never saw the bags inflate. I just saw them deflate. I never felt any restraint from the airbags so I guess their deployment is fairly gentle. My wife had a few minor cuts from broken windshield glass.
The car was totaled, and "adjusting" valuation with my insurance company was a major hassle.
My point is that the airbags worked as advertised and may have saved us from serious injury. Additional point is that the structure of the car was such that the body took the impact. Other than a broken windshield and a buckled passenger door there were no intrusions into the passenger compartment.

Thank you.

 

[acoga]

Strange the occupant died- (if it was the driver) as the drivers compartment looks pretty darn good. From experience and viewing NHTSA side crash tests at 30-35 mph- doubtful this was just at 19 mph.

Looks like his head struck the side glass extremely hard. That could've easily done it, especially if help was slow in getting there.

 

[socarwolverine]

Looks like his head struck the side glass extremely hard. That could've easily done it, especially if help was slow in getting there.

Yeah, if his head struck the glass hard enough then it wouldn't really matter how fast help got there. But that makes it an even bigger shame that his side curtain airbags didn't deploy.

It seems like the OP is oversimplifying the situation by not providing any more details. I suspect something else is going on here because if there were a rash of deaths from this car the media would jump all over it like they did the toyota fiasco.

 

[STREETS]

Not sure I agree about what caused the drivers side window to break. Look again- there are 3 distinct impact marks- small compact breaks. If a head impacted the glass- there most likely would be a large impression or spider crack- bowed out. Rather looks like 3 blows with a hammer. Ever see a windshield when the head hits it- you can tell the persons head hit it. Here, not so much.