HID High Beam Possible on '09 Genesis?

[Valo_Soul]

Hi Everyone,

I'm just wondering if there is any way possible to get HID lighting for my high beams on a 2009 Genesis Sedan with Tech Package (AFLS, DIS Nav). I just don't want to get myself into a mess and order the wrong thing!

I love the clarity and brightness of the HID low beams, but find it so unfortunate that my High Beams add almost nothing to the brightness or viewable distance.

 

[Tailwalker]

You would need to get a bi-xenon retrofit package from someone. I would suggest TRS. I'm doing this with my 2011....hopefully soon. There will be more cost involved, depending on what you decide to do. Also, I would recommend picking up clear lenses for the low beam to replace the existing Fresnel (frosted) lenses. If you are uncomfortable doing this type of work yourself, I can recommend a few retrofitters that would be able to do this for you, but it's not cheap.

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/c...orimoto-mini-stage-3-kit-h1.html#.VrHrSdIrIdU

 

[OneFunGenesis]

Or you could throw a crappy HID kit in there since HID high beams are a terrible idea anyway. I have LED highbeams in the K900 and they match my low beams. I would love if my hi beams were yellower to cut through the fog/rain/snow here. To each their own but just grab a crap HID kit from china and plug it in. Should work well enough

 

[Valo_Soul]

Thank you both So, OneFunGenesis, you don't like Bi-Xenon? Just in the sense that you prefer different color temp for high beam visibility?

 

[Nikgen]

Or you could throw a crappy HID kit in there since HID high beams are a terrible idea anyway. I have LED highbeams in the K900 and they match my low beams. I would love if my hi beams were yellower to cut through the fog/rain/snow here. To each their own but just grab a crap HID kit from china and plug it in. Should work well enough

Why are HID high beams a terrible idea? They work quite well in the G2 Genesis and match the low beams as it's the same HID light with the shutter moved up. BTW - High beams of any color in fog or heavy snow are a bad idea - too much backscatter/glare!

 

[OneFunGenesis]

Right. Where I live we get a lot of bad weather. My headlights, "fog" lights, and hi-beams are all LED and the same color temperature.

In rain, I cant see a damn thing. In snow, its even worse. In fog...i might as well drive with the lights off lol.

If you dont get a lot of bad weather though, feel free to put HID's in the hi beams. Because they really dont need a specific beam pattern, just grab an HID kit. If you did a retrofit it would look nice and have a nice defined beam pattern...but that isn't needed since hi-beams are designed to throw light 65413635489132 ways.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

Why are HID high beams a terrible idea? They work quite well in the G2 Genesis and match the low beams as it's the same HID light with the shutter moved up. BTW - High beams of any color in fog or heavy snow are a bad idea - too much backscatter/glare!

Yellow lights cut through rain and fog much better than blue/white.

Not to mention that a retrofit is north of $1,000 and a HID kit is $30 lol

 

[Nikgen]

Yellow lights cut through rain and fog much better than blue/white.

Not to mention that a retrofit is north of $1,000 and a HID kit is $30 lol

But yellow high beams would cause issues too - too bright. True foglights are also very yellow (but are still not bright like high beams). What we have on current cars are really just driving lights - fog lights is a misnomer!

 

[OneFunGenesis]

That is why I put fog in quotation marks in my post. I used to have 3000K fog lights on my Nissan and loved them.

Anywho, the OP can do what he pleases, I am simply devils advocate.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

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[Tailwalker]

LOL...congrats on the post!

The retrofit that I linked is the correct way to get the most focused output from the high-beams. LED do not have hi/lo and very little output without focus (lenses/projectors).
The bi-xenon kits come with lenses and shrouds to allow you to focus and align with the stock lo-beam cutoff alleviating scatter and blinding oncoming traffic no matter the temperature of the beam. The retrofit is not too involved, just requires patience and attention to detail.
You can color match any light on the car to your preference, no matter the designation - LED/HID/Halogen.

The following link has examples of correct applications, as well as those with hot-spots and scatter from projector-less kits.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bi-...ved=0ahUKEwjs8Onns9zKAhXCaT4KHRV8CCMQ_AUIBygC


I'm certainly not a lighting nazi like others on this forum (who have not contributed to this discussion thankfully) but there are proper ways to go about getting the most out of any application, from performance to audio or lighting - the same holds true to cutting corners. I've done both. LOL.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

Thanks!

I have done both as well. I did a hand made retrofit and had an HID kit. For the hi-beams, I wouldnt worry though because generally one does not care about scattering light with those and that is what it is designed to do as a hi-beam anyway. Just my .02

 

[Valo_Soul]

I'm easily confused...so...

Easiest way to get HID high beams on my car = HID kit? That will allow me to JUST change the high beams if I want? I was told be someone that adding a higher wattage bulb to the car may damage circuit, intermediate connectors, or the module itself... so I definitely want to avoid that lol.

I'm confused by the whole thing. Sorry :S

 

[Tailwalker]

Yes, the easiest way will just be to add a HID kit. The bulbs will not last long, as they are not meant to cycle off and on repeatedly..they heat up to optimum temps (like your lo-beams warming up). Have at it. The output will be greater than your halogen.

DO not add higher wattage bulbs/ballasts. It will damage as you noted.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

^ Ditto

 

[Valo_Soul]

Thank you both!

Best HID kit/source for one for the '09 Genny?

Again, much appreciated.

 

[ghicks99]

Yeah, like previously stated the cheapest way is just throwing some cheap kit in there. Downside is that it wont last long due to the way most high beams are used. Flicking them on and off is what happens with them most of the time and the occasional drive with them on for a minute or so at a time. Well hids arent meant to cycle on and off like that, they need to warm up. So yes, a bixenon is best but is it really worth the money?

 

[Tailwalker]

In a word, yes. But that is subjective of course. For me, the most important and influential mod is upgraded lighting. This has the most immediate impact if you drive in any sort of rural setting...and for me, at night in the rain is the time I most need better lighting. I've waited a year for this mod - I will convey my opinion once I've completed.

 

[xiaphin]

Yellow lights cut through rain and fog much better than blue/white.

This is why I run 3000K HID's in my low beams, the visibility is amazing. Although I never switched the Fresnel lens over to clear, so technically what I have is a no no.