Hyundai 3.3 Turbo GDi V6 Engine

[Youseethefight]

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Hyundai new 3.3L twin turbo V6


Might have to go for the coupe next time around.

 

[geops]

Great torque curve and decent bhp. Me likey...

 

[Gunkk]

Torque curve? More like a Torque Table.

 

[Subninja]

They can keep their twin turbos. Coming from an N54 which is direct injected and twin turbos I can say I would rather have a big V8. You don't have to worry about boost leaks, boost spikes, not enough boost, too much boost, or wastegate issues. I had all those with the Beemer.

 

[FastDEW1]

They can keep their twin turbos. Coming from an N54 which is direct injected and twin turbos I can say I would rather have a big V8. You don't have to worry about boost leaks, boost spikes, not enough boost, too much boost, or wastegate issues. I had all those with the Beemer.

The Ford Ecoboost is twin turbo V6 and it is awesome and very reliable. It is a sweet power plant with lovely wide torque curve. It doesn't sound so good, but I would take it over a naturally aspirated V8 any day! So if Hyundai does their V6 TT right, it will be fantastic.

 

[GenesisCaptain]

They can keep their twin turbos. Coming from an N54 which is direct injected and twin turbos I can say I would rather have a big V8. You don't have to worry about boost leaks, boost spikes, not enough boost, too much boost, or wastegate issues. I had all those with the Beemer.

But wait, there's more... This new 3.3L engine will likely replace our existing 3.8L. They haven't addressed the next gen big engine yet. Would you rather have a much larger and heavier (as in >>5.0L) normally aspirated V8 or a smaller ~4.0L twin turbo V8 that produced the same or more power? Personally, I would vote for the twin turbo, because it gives us the torque at lower RPM and thus much better acceleration.

 

[Bill K]

I wonder if this is a "New" engine, or the "old" 3.3 Azera engine turbo'd up?

 

[scottdk]

I wonder if this is a "New" engine, or the "old" 3.3 Azera engine turbo'd up?

The 3.3 would be the same engine that came out 1st in 2006 in the Sonata, but with modern upgrades such as GDI etc. There are larger bore versions of this engine in the 2010 Sorrento/Sante Fe 3.5L, and even the Genesis sedan and coupe at 3.8L.

 

[Subninja]

In my personal experience I have yet to own a FI engine that is more reliable than an N/A engine. I am happy to see most car companies going this route as they will become more reliable. To each his own but I will never own another FI car.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

They can keep their twin turbos. Coming from an N54 which is direct injected and twin turbos I can say I would rather have a big V8. You don't have to worry about boost leaks, boost spikes, not enough boost, too much boost, or wastegate issues. I had all those with the Beemer.

I know probably half the people will agree with you and would prefer a big V8 over a turbo V6. In any event, I never had any of those problems with my N54 335i and it was modified. I also never had any problems with a twin turbo Audi S4 (extremely highly modified) - and that was a 2000...

Technology has come a long way and forced induction is becoming less and less problematic all the time. My experiences have all been positive...

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[Subninja]

I'll just say for the turbo replacement on my 335i out of warranty was about $6000. I also had constant misfires and had to replace the coilpacks, spark plugs, vanos solenoids and that bill was about $1000. After the turbo replacement I would get an overboost issue any time I was in boost for prolonged periods. That was all to repair the car, not modify it. Worst car I ever owned and since it was never mechanically sound I couldn't use all that "power."

I would say if you don't mind that when you run into a problem the endless hours of troubleshooting and also the incredible amount of money to fix it then get a turbo car. If BMWs are the standard of engineering like the whole automotive community seems to think then I would recommend staying away from FI cars. If you do happen to get one keep it stock because the minute you modify there goes your warranty and any ounce of reliability the car had to begin with. There is a reason the 335i is considered one of the least reliable cars you can buy used. And for the money you pay new they are severely overprice as the interiors are just rubbish. The fact I can get a Genesis for $23,000 with an additional 85,000 mile warranty says a lot for what you can get these day. Having a BMW is like dating a model. They are sure pretty to look at that's about it.

 

[DRS]

They can keep their twin turbos. Coming from an N54 which is direct injected and twin turbos I can say I would rather have a big V8. You don't have to worry about boost leaks, boost spikes, not enough boost, too much boost, or wastegate issues. I had all those with the Beemer.

+1. ^^ as I mentioned in a prior post, .gov is ramming the sputtering wheezing motors down our throats.. Because of the fake CO2 and trumped up mileage MPG measurements that force Millennial engineers to use small turbos instead on V8s. Yes, some rice burner lovers are fixated on boosted engines. Good for them... They should Quit supporting tyrants in the EPA to put out false testing standards which put out false mileage boosts and lower CO2 (which we exhale) results with turbo engines. In the real world mileage is worse than ever stated. And if anyone has a lead foot or tows anything will see boosted engines producing single digit mileage figures. Or barley cracking 20mpg for boosted 3 or 4 cylinder tinker toy wheezers.

Boosted engines are ok, as a choice... Now around the world (and here in the USA), displacement taxes, faux mileage test standards are forcing the natural aspirated engine of any kind out the door. Especially those V8s with higher displacement.

Corvettes at 3500lbs get, reported almost all the time, 30mpg + in real world on the highway. And decent in town. Same for the TAU V8.

Cranks many of us off that we are having our choices taken away by force, and tyranny of the sputtering fan club, not the overall market.

The above words are for fun and enjoyment. Anyone taking them with anger, disdain, disrespect, snobby hob goblin mouth movement, proves the premise.

Long live the choice for V8s, and any naturally aspirated engine tech advances.

 

[DRS]

The Ford Ecoboost is twin turbo V6 and it is awesome and very reliable. It is a sweet power plant with lovely wide torque curve. It doesn't sound so good, but I would take it over a naturally aspirated V8 any day! So if Hyundai does their V6 TT right, it will be fantastic.

Until one tows a trailer and gets 5-9MPG, verses the 12-15 for the 5.0 or even the 6.2 getting much better mileage than a under boost towing load in a 3.5 NOEcoboost.

And hey, I love my Super Dutys with 6.4 and 6.7 turbo diesel. They are much better mileage and power under load than gas. And even better under light cruise. So, I am not anti boosted. I, like most of us, want choices.

Just wait until F150s will be made from origami paper, with 3 cylinder sputtering turbos, to be part of the 54mpg .gov terrorist standards. With 700k of these made a year, and 350k Super Dutys a year, Ford will have be pressed to have ridiculous MPG standards met. Well, there is always carbon fiber bodies.... Ha ha.

We should look at the larger picture. We are all being played.

 

[DRS]

I know probably half the people will agree with you and would prefer a big V8 over a turbo V6. In any event, I never had any of those problems with my N54 335i and it was modified. I also never had any problems with a twin turbo Audi S4 (extremely highly modified) - and that was a 2000...

Technology has come a long way and forced induction is becoming less and less problematic all the time. My experiences have all been positive...

Good point. Yes.. Many today, as you say half, want NA V8 advancing tech. BUT this choice is being force from us by .gov. See above comments. It is a reality. And one those busy bodies, history indicates, will pay for their chaos. Glad you like gas turbos. Many are very cool.

 

[DRS]

I'll just say for the turbo replacement on my 335i out of warranty was about $6000. I also had constant misfires and had to replace the coilpacks, spark plugs, vanos solenoids and that bill was about $1000. After the turbo replacement I would get an overboost issue any time I was in boost for prolonged periods. That was all to repair the car, not modify it. Worst car I ever owned and since it was never mechanically sound I couldn't use all that "power."

I would say if you don't mind that when you run into a problem the endless hours of troubleshooting and also the incredible amount of money to fix it then get a turbo car. If BMWs are the standard of engineering like the whole automotive community seems to think then I would recommend staying away from FI cars. If you do happen to get one keep it stock because the minute you modify there goes your warranty and any ounce of reliability the car had to begin with. There is a reason the 335i is considered one of the least reliable cars you can buy used. And for the money you pay new they are severely overprice as the interiors are just rubbish. The fact I can get a Genesis for $23,000 with an additional 85,000 mile warranty says a lot for what you can get these day. Having a BMW is like dating a model. They are sure pretty to look at that's about it.

Amen...

 

[Sal Collaziano]

#1. YOU had a lemon.
#2. It was not the turbos but the high pressure fuel pump that caused so many problems for the 335i. That particular part is now, if I'm not mistaken, covered passed the warranty period as it was a manufacturer defect.

I'm quite familiar with the 335i since I owned own for awhile and spent endless hours researching it before I bought and in order to modify it. The turbos were not a problem. You had a lemon. All brands have vehicles that end up being problematic to the point of no return. It happens. It just so happens that you owned one of those cars... Plenty of people - most who never go online talking about it - had a completely positive experience with their 335i.

I'll just say for the turbo replacement on my 335i out of warranty was about $6000. I also had constant misfires and had to replace the coilpacks, spark plugs, vanos solenoids and that bill was about $1000. After the turbo replacement I would get an overboost issue any time I was in boost for prolonged periods. That was all to repair the car, not modify it. Worst car I ever owned and since it was never mechanically sound I couldn't use all that "power."

I would say if you don't mind that when you run into a problem the endless hours of troubleshooting and also the incredible amount of money to fix it then get a turbo car. If BMWs are the standard of engineering like the whole automotive community seems to think then I would recommend staying away from FI cars. If you do happen to get one keep it stock because the minute you modify there goes your warranty and any ounce of reliability the car had to begin with. There is a reason the 335i is considered one of the least reliable cars you can buy used. And for the money you pay new they are severely overprice as the interiors are just rubbish. The fact I can get a Genesis for $23,000 with an additional 85,000 mile warranty says a lot for what you can get these day. Having a BMW is like dating a model. They are sure pretty to look at that's about it.

 

[FastDEW1]

Until one tows a trailer and gets 5-9MPG, verses the 12-15 for the 5.0 or even the 6.2 getting much better mileage than a under boost towing load in a 3.5 NOEcoboost.

And hey, I love my Super Dutys with 6.4 and 6.7 turbo diesel. They are much better mileage and power under load than gas. And even better under light cruise. So, I am not anti boosted. I, like most of us, want choices.

Just wait until F150s will be made from origami paper, with 3 cylinder sputtering turbos, to be part of the 54mpg .gov terrorist standards. With 700k of these made a year, and 350k Super Dutys a year, Ford will have be pressed to have ridiculous MPG standards met. Well, there is always carbon fiber bodies.... Ha ha.

We should look at the larger picture. We are all being played.

I had a Super Duty before. The truck is just too big for my needs. The F150 is much more livable. Yes, the Ecoboost is a pig when towing heavy (I pull about 9,000 lbs) but it will out pull both the 6.2 and the 5.0 hands down. When I am pulling heavy I want power and I know the fuel economy is not going to be good. The 5.0 is not even close in pulling power and the 6.2 is a pig all of the time while not able to pull as consistently as the 3.5TT. The Ecoboost is really a great engine. Name aside......

 

[Subninja]

They also extended the turbo warranty to 82,000 miles due to wastegate failure. I think they did this as too many people were having failures and a class action lawsuit was in the future. The poorly designed oil filter housing with their leaky gaskets,the DSC Hydro Pumps, and the plastic thermostats and water pumps that are all prone to failure at about 50,000-70,000 miles are just other examples of poor engineering. You can say it's a lemon but used BMWs aren't known to be reliable or cost effective as used purchases. Feel free to look that up for yourself. You can own one but you have to expect to spend at least $4,000 a year in just repairs.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I would never own a BMW out of warranty. It's a luxury car thing. I wouldn't want to own a Cadillac out of warranty either. Or, a Genesis. They're just too "high tech" to afford to pay out of pocket for the average person. Now the Lincoln Town Car wouldn't be a problem. THAT was a luxury car - but wasn't very "high tech" at all. Same with the Cadillac Fleetwood. But those are are long in the past now...

They also extended the turbo warranty to 82,000 miles due to wastegate failure. I think they did this as too many people were having failures and a class action lawsuit was in the future. The poorly designed oil filter housing with their leaky gaskets,the DSC Hydro Pumps, and the plastic thermostats and water pumps that are all prone to failure at about 50,000-70,000 miles are just other examples of poor engineering. You can say it's a lemon but used BMWs aren't known to be reliable or cost effective as used purchases. Feel free to look that up for yourself. You can own one but you have to expect to spend at least $4,000 a year in just repairs.

 

[DRS]

I had a Super Duty before. The truck is just too big for my needs. The F150 is much more livable. Yes, the Ecoboost is a pig when towing heavy (I pull about 9,000 lbs) but it will out pull both the 6.2 and the 5.0 hands down. When I am pulling heavy I want power and I know the fuel economy is not going to be good. The 5.0 is not even close in pulling power and the 6.2 is a pig all of the time while not able to pull as consistently as the 3.5TT. The Ecoboost is really a great engine. Name aside......

Yep... Get your context. And agree for the most part. If F150, seems like the 3.5 is a durable powerful option. It is good to have choices. From what folks hear, it is good for 350-400k miles before scrap time.

But then, Nissan now will have the Cummins V8 turbo diesel in the new revamped pickup. Should do better under massive load than gas V6 turbo. And good mileage under light load. I have not heard about how the Italian diesel in the 1500 Ram does in situations like yours.

I am at a Hyundai dealer as we speak. Just drove a 5.0 ultimate. Waiting on them to find a Monticello blue. With its extra weight, a TT 5.0 would be nice. much slower off line than my current first gen. It is a great car, though. Cannot imagine a Ultimate Genny with a 3.3 turbo that may sound less manly than the already less than manly SHO 3.5TT. And I will not buy a car with some goofy sound injection system into the interior to fake out the mind, changing wheezing sputtering non V8 sounds into fake V8 like sounds.