Jack points on the 2015 Sedan

[TheKingInYellow]

I am having no luck finding this anywhere in the service manual or Google, etc...

I'm tired of having to pay the dealer $60 twice a year to swap on summer/winter tires so I'm getting the tools to do it myself. The biggest issue I see is that there is no centre front/rear jack points listed *anywhere* that I can see besides the recommendation to jack the rear on the rear differential which I'm not crazy about given how many warnings there are about cars slipping off when lifting it there.

I know where the jack points are on the frame near each wheel but if I'm lifting from there I can't get a jack stand onto the same point. I'm doing this on a slightly sloped driveway so there is no way I am trusting just a trolley jack or scissor jack on it's own.

Are there any other places I can put a jack stand safely on this car?

 

[srobak]

Either lift under the control arms and put jackstands on the frame, or vice-versa.

 

[TheKingInYellow]

Either lift under the control arms and put jackstands on the frame, or vice-versa.

Is that all accessible with all of the underbody panels? Ideally, I'd love a picture of where exactly I can lift since I'm not exactly car saavy.

 

[danygenesis]

You can go to an independent auto repair shop for swapping your tires, for sure will be cheaper than the dealer.

 

[srobak]

yes, openly accessible.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

What about using the factory jack points? You can use a floor jack with a pad to lift there. Some places I believe sell an adapter for the pinch weld lift points.

either way you go, you'll probably need a low profile jack to get under the car.

 

[dareckibmw]

Discount Tires charged me $25 to swap 4 wheels, now it's free, since I bought four tires from them for my aftermarket rims.

For such a small amount, I'd let them do it anyway.

 

[celltech]

Here are the "official" jack locations from my service manual...

 

[srobak]

Those are the ones i was referring to above. Unfortunately with the jack there - you cannot put jackstands there, as the OP said.

 

[TheKingInYellow]

Hate to bring this thread back but I need to swap these wheels this weekend. Someone out there must do their own wheel swaps and have an idea of how to do this safely. I'm not even sure if I need pinch weld adaptors or anything for a standard trolley jack...

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[dareckibmw]

Hate to bring this thread back but I need to swap these wheels this weekend. Someone out there must do their own wheel swaps and have an idea of how to do this safely. I'm not even sure if I need pinch weld adaptors or anything for a standard trolley jack...

For your own safety, go to a shop, Discount Tires, Just Tires, Firestone, etc. and let them do it...I don't think they're going to charge you more than $30

 

[balfor]

Do you have a level garage or other site available? If so just use the factory jack points, I never use jack stands when I rotate my tires, just a couple scissor type jacks and a hockey puck with a slot cut into it for my floor jack, works great on the factory pinch welds. Obviously, without jack stands DO NOT get under the vehicle at all, simply remove the tire while kneeling next to it, do not put any part of your body in harm's way. I jack one side at a time to minimize any body strain/flex but it probably does not matter as the car is subjected to that anyway on steep driveways.

I would not attempt it on ground that is not level however which is what you mention in your first post.

 

[kn5owa]

Hate to bring this thread back but I need to swap these wheels this weekend. Someone out there must do their own wheel swaps and have an idea of how to do this safely. I'm not even sure if I need pinch weld adaptors or anything for a standard trolley jack...

The key word here is "safely". And, in my opinion -- no, you cannot do it safely using a combo of jacks & jackstands - pay a local garage & check the lug nut torque afterwards.

No reason for winter tires in VA, but if I had to do the job, I would use 2 floor jacks & stay from under the car.

p.s., on my 10 yr old Sonata, you can easily put a floor jack at the lift points & then place a jackstand just inside the liftpoint - I did exactly that the last time I did a brake pad job on the Sonata. But, again it's a 10 yr old car. My Genny is a 2015 with the entire top & bottom of the engine completely wrapped in panels. If you doubt what I'm saying, check with someone who has done an oil change/filter swap on a 2015 V8.

 

[TEF]

Caution and safety are a consideration, but a jack AND jack stands to change one wheel for another is somewhat extreme. When does one actually get under the car to do this? Moreover, one can buy a very good torque wrench for the price of a single visit to the dealer. Dealers and tire shops often pay minimum wage to people doing this sort of work, so blind trust of others can be misplaced. I'd suggest that no one cares more about doing the job correctly than the person owning and driving that vehicle.

 

[Mark_888]

Replacing a tire should not be a big deal. Just remember to loosen (but not remove) the lug nuts while the car is on the ground, and then jack it up, and only then finish removing the lug nuts and the wheel.

When installing the new wheel, tighten the lug nuts with very low torque (but make sure the wheels are mounted flush). Do not tighten the lug nuts until the car is lowered to the ground.

 

[Midnightsun]

What the heck does jack stands have to do with swapping winter tires or changing out tires. I can understand the need for stands if rotating the same tires but definitely not required when one has a second set of tires such as winter. Just put the jack under the car in the appropriate area, loosen the lug nut just so the crack it loose, lift and remove tire, replace and tighten up lug nut partially, lower to ground and finalise the tightening. I have even used my car jack on many occasions to swap tires. You can even use an adapter like this to make the OEM scissor jack operate off of a battery drill. https://www.amazon.com/Scissor-Adaptor-TruBuilt-Automotive-Impact/dp/B00X3ENPJ8 if you do this on a regular basis on all the family cars you may want to look into a battery operated impact wrench. I happen to have quite few Ridgid tools so I naturally went with the Ridging brand for battery and charging compatibility. I can swap winter/summer wheels in less than 20 minutes. http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-X4-18-Volt-1-2-in-Impact-Wrench-Tool-Only-R86010B/203930523

 

[hokie1525]

What the heck does jack stands have to do with swapping winter tires or changing out tires. [/url]

If you only own one jack, you need a jack stand to rotate tires since two tires have to be off at one time. This issue I have is getting the jack stand in place with those smallish joints.

 

[Mark_888]

If you only own one jack, you need a jack stand to rotate tires since two tires have to be off at one time. This issue I have is getting the jack stand in place with those smallish joints.

That is true, but OP is swapping entire wheel/tire, not rotating them. Since I purchased my tires at Costco, I get free rotations every 7500 miles, which includes rebalancing and nitrogen.

 

[kn5owa]

That is true, but OP is swapping entire wheel/tire, not rotating them. Since I purchased my tires at Costco, I get free rotations every 7500 miles, which includes rebalancing and nitrogen.

When you buy tires at Costco now - they state on the receipt the actual mileage at which you should bring the car in. Go beyond that and they may refuse the job - they did that to me. They got burned to the tune of a few million dollars a few years ago when they rotated some tires and the guy went out and totaled his car.

 

[celltech]

I just had mine on jack stands to install suspension collars today. The back is easy to get up, just come in from the rear of the car and use the subframe where it meets the lower control arm. Pick it up and put the jack stand on the "correct" point.

The front is way harder. I started with the correct point, pulled the transmission cover and put the 1st stand on the front subframe. Then remove jack and jack up the other side of the subframe till you can put the stand under the frame mount point. At that point I just left it where it was...

If you had a low enough jack you could jack it up at the knuckle next to the tire, but then it has to load the suspension first before the body moved. You could also drive it up a couple blocks of wood to get a little height to get the jack under it, but either way it's a total pain.