Just bought a 2015 Signature 3.8. Buyer's Remorse?

[ChipWylde]

Hey guys, I just purchased a 15 Signature 3.8 two days ago. I didn't do much research on the car before I bought it (traded in a 2011 CTS-V Sedan, needed a new luxury car for under $40k with better fuel economy) and thought it was a great car for the money.

My total price out the door with TTL was $39,666 here in San Antonio, TX. I'm wondering, did I got the best deal for the car with only the Sig package on it? I saw another thread showing 5.0 ultimates for just above $50k, and it seems that those cars have A LOT more options.

I love the car and got exactly what I wanted as far as options and gas mileage, but could I have gotten a better deal? Also, does everyone like/use the additional options that come on the tech and ultimate packages?

I know these may be dumb questions, but I am new to Hyundai and the Genesis car itself.

 

[ckon]

Hey guys, I just purchased a 15 Signature 3.8 two days ago. I didn't do much research on the car before I bought it (traded in a 2011 CTS-V Sedan, needed a new luxury car for under $40k with better fuel economy) and thought it was a great car for the money.

My total price out the door with TTL was $39,666 here in San Antonio, TX. I'm wondering, did I got the best deal for the car with only the Sig package on it? I saw another thread showing 5.0 ultimates for just above $50k, and it seems that those cars have A LOT more options.

I love the car and got exactly what I wanted as far as options and gas mileage, but could I have gotten a better deal? Also, does everyone like/use the additional options that come on the tech and ultimate packages?

I know these may be dumb questions, but I am new to Hyundai and the Genesis car itself.

You pay more, you usually get more "stuff" but it costs ya. You got a GREAT sub-$40k car. You'll worry yourself to death if you keep thinking about it.

 

[Mark_888]

My total price out the door with TTL was $39,666 here in San Antonio, TX. I'm wondering, did I got the best deal for the car with only the Sig package on it? I saw another thread showing 5.0 ultimates for just above $50k, and it seems that those cars have A LOT more options.

I don't quite understand. The 5.0 Ultimate is going for more than $10K above what you paid, and you are pissed because it has more options than the 3.8 Signature Package you purchased?

 

[ChipWylde]

No I'm not pissed at all. I'm very satisfied with the car and with the options that came with the signature package. I guess I'm just wondering if people who opted for the tech package and above think the additional $4-8k was worth the extra features. I'm not referring to the safety features of the emergency brake, etc. I think those are unnecessary. I'm mainly referring to the extra "tech" features. Also wondering if the price I paid was a good one...

 

[ckon]

I think only you can answer those questions - what are the toys worth to YOU? I love all of the toys and gadgets on top of the line vehicles and so the additional cost is worth it to me, but just because I like it doesn't mean you would. Of course, this is all related to what you're willing to spend in the first place. The car you bought is a very good, very impressive value but only you can decide if you're happy with your decisions.

Additionally, I think it's pretty normal for a lot of us to go through what you are for the first moth or so of ownership and then it passes and you don't have to worry about it anymore.

 

[TxGenesis01]

I also bought a signature package and the only thing I wish it had was front and rear parking sensors. My wife complins every times she drives it because her truck has them and makes parking for her easier. I personally dont need them. Other than that, no regrets.

If you plan to keep the car for many miles/years the sig pkg is the way to go because all those extra options will eventually break and will be pricy to repair.

 

[ChipWylde]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm loving the car especially the gas mileage. My '11 CTS-V had 500hp to the wheels and got 10mpg on 93 octane. This car also has a major upgrade in the new technology department and rides like a dream. Not to mention I haven't seen ANY 2nd gens on the road yet, so its a definite head turner. Just ordered a genesis badge for the rear trunk lid and will be putting window tint on the car soon. Other than that, I'll be waiting for someone to come out with a decent CAI and then the car will be set!

 

[Mark_888]

No I'm not pissed at all. I'm very satisfied with the car and with the options that came with the signature package. I guess I'm just wondering if people who opted for the tech package and above think the additional $4-8k was worth the extra features. I'm not referring to the safety features of the emergency brake, etc. I think those are unnecessary. I'm mainly referring to the extra "tech" features.

Be your own man. Not everyone agrees anyway, which is why they make all those different trim levels. Use the money you saved to buy something else (or invest it for later on).

Also wondering if the price I paid was a good one...

I have no idea, but it's too late now and if you keep worrying about it you will drive yourself to an early grave.

 

[PMCErnie]

Sounds like a decent price to me for signature package model at this point in the debut of the '15 model. Why not just enjoy it? My preference would be a signature package model minus the sunroof, but it is not available in that configuration. All the toys in the tech and ultimate models have no appeal to me, whatsoever, except the top end 17 speaker audio.

 

[Sam22]

Hey guys, I just purchased a 15 Signature 3.8 two days ago. I didn't do much research on the car before I bought it (traded in a 2011 CTS-V Sedan, needed a new luxury car for under $40k with better fuel economy) and thought it was a great car for the money.

My total price out the door with TTL was $39,666 here in San Antonio, TX. I'm wondering, did I got the best deal for the car with only the Sig package on it? I saw another thread showing 5.0 ultimates for just above $50k, and it seems that those cars have A LOT more options.

I love the car and got exactly what I wanted as far as options and gas mileage, but could I have gotten a better deal? Also, does everyone like/use the additional options that come on the tech and ultimate packages?

I know these may be dumb questions, but I am new to Hyundai and the Genesis car itself.

I paid $41500 for my 2015 Genesis 3.8 RWD with Signature Package and the price includes $2500 for Tax/Title/Regis. So I would say you got a good deal. Regarding your question about which package to go with, I would say 'Signature' is the 'must have' package. However, if you have extra bucks then even Tech & Ultimate are worth it

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[Nikgen]

If you plan to keep the car for many miles/years the sig pkg is the way to go because all those extra options will eventually break and will be pricy to repair.

That's just plain silly (and not true), but if it helps you justify/feel better about your purchase decision, so be it...

My POV is that folks should buy what they can afford and what makes sense/has the right price/value for them - but the extra tech and features are absolutely worth the $ if they are features you actually want. They enhance the pleasure/safety/comfort of driving this great car!

 

[TxGenesis01]

That's just plain silly (and not true), but if it helps you justify/feel better about your purchase decision, so be it...

It called common sense. Any top of the line vehicle has more parts than the base model. More parts = more possibilities of something malfunctioning. Once warranty is over, all the extra “Tech” stuff is going to be pricy to repair. For example, I got 2 friends with vehicles over 100,000 miles (one drives an 2009 Escalade and the other a 2008 7 series) and both of their dash boards look like a Christmas tree because they don’t want to spend several grand to fix the “tech” stuff that broke down after the warranty expired. If you don’t mind having the “check engine” or “service vehicle soon” light on or if you don’t keep you vehicle for many miles/years (like I said before) it won’t be a big deal.

 

[Nikgen]

That's just plain silly (and not true), but if it helps you justify/feel better about your purchase decision, so be it...

It called common sense. Any top of the line vehicle has more parts than the base model. More parts = more possibilities of something malfunctioning. Once warranty is over, all the extra “Tech” stuff is going to be pricy to repair. For example, I got 2 friends with vehicles over 100,000 miles (one drives an 2009 Escalade and the other a 2008 7 series) and both of their dash boards look like a Christmas tree because they don’t want to spend several grand to fix the “tech” stuff that broke down after the warranty expired. If you don’t mind having the “check engine” or “service vehicle soon” light on or if you don’t keep you vehicle for many miles/years (like I said before) it won’t be a big deal.

Sorry, but there is no reason to believe that the upgraded tech systems are going to fail any sooner or more frequently than the base systems. We're not talking added mechanical complexity in the vast majority of these upgrades here - for example, why would the 9.2" Nav system fail more than the 8" system? Why would the top end 900 watt Lexicon stereo fail more than the base stereo? Not to mention the aesthetic/comfort upgrades you get with the higher trim packages: Why would the Ultra Premium leather seats fail more than the base seats? What's going to fail on the real wood and aluminum interior trim! ...and, if you plan to keep the car long term, you can get a 10 year extended warranty for about $1,500 bucks - cheap insurance if you are really concerned!

Again, buy what is the best price/value for your particular situation, but don't try to diminish the real world value and enjoyment derived from the available upgrades - they're quite real!

 

[GenesisCaptain]

There is no reason to believe that the upgraded tech systems are going to fail any sooner or more frequently than the base systems.

+1

 

[Mark_888]

Sorry, but there is no reason to believe that the upgraded tech systems are going to fail any sooner or more frequently than the base systems. We're not talking added mechanical complexity in the vast majority of these upgrades here - for example, why would the 9.2" Nav system fail more than the 8" system? Why would the top end 900 watt Lexicon stereo fail more than the base stereo?

Based on historical experience of forum members with the 1st generation Genesis (MY 2009-2014) there has been a big difference in the reliability of the audio systems for the various Genesis trim levels. In particular, the Base Trim audio system has had virtually no reliability problems reported on this forum, whereas the Tech Package system (17-speaker Lexicon) has experienced an abnormally high problem/failure rate that usually required replacement of the entire head unit. The normal charge for the replacing the head unit would have been about $3,000 plus labor charges, but has been usually been done under warranty. In some cases the amp had to be replaced at a similar cost (if out of warranty) to that of the head unit.

I can understand that in normal circumstances there might not be any logical reason to suspect in advance that the Base Trim audio system will be more reliable than the other trim levels, but having read almost every post on the forum on that subject for the past 5 3/4 yeas, I can assure you that the Base Trim system has in fact been much more reliable during model years 2009-2014.

As to the reliability of the 2009-2014 Premium Package audio system with 14-speaker Lexicon system, that has been somewhere in-between the 17-speaker system and the 7-speaker Base Trim system in terms of reliability.

Now, whether the reliability experience of the 2009-2014 Genesis will have any bearing on the second generation 2015+ Genesis is debatable, although the system vendor is the same (Lexicon by Harman International).

 

[Ernie3647]

Having read a lot of the posts on this forum regarding the 1st generation audio systems and having owned a 2011 tech I would say there is more than a glimmer of truth to Marks assessment. Regarding the 1st generation.

 

[TxGenesis01]

Sorry, but there is no reason to believe that the upgraded tech systems are going to fail any sooner or more frequently than the base systems. We're not talking added mechanical complexity in the vast majority of these upgrades here - for example, why would the 9.2" Nav system fail more than the 8" system? Why would the top end 900 watt Lexicon stereo fail more than the base stereo? Not to mention the aesthetic/comfort upgrades you get with the higher trim packages: Why would the Ultra Premium leather seats fail more than the base seats? What's going to fail on the real wood and aluminum interior trim! ...and, if you plan to keep the car long term, you can get a 10 year extended warranty for about $1,500 bucks - cheap insurance if you are really concerned!

Again, buy what is the best price/value for your particular situation, but don't try to diminish the real world value and enjoyment derived from the available upgrades - they're quite real!

Sorry, but you seem to be missing the point. The "Tech" and above have options like Lane Departure Warning, Lane Keep Assist, Smart Cruise Control and Automatic Emergency Braking that rely on sensors that will eventually fail. Most likely they will fail after 100K miles (assuming 20K per year) and your extended warranty will be useless and you will need to dig into your pocket to fix it. Hopefully you’re not the owner of the car at that point.

Also, don’t get me wrong, all the options are good but the more bells and whistles a car has, the more the chances of something can fail.

 

[Mark_888]

Also, don’t get me wrong, all the options are good but the more bells and whistles a car has, the more the chances of something can fail.

And the cost of repairing those systems will likely be astronomical (since dealers don't usually repair them, they just replace the entire system).

 

[Alwaysforward]

Might as well buy a 1969 GTO... No bells and whistles

 

[Ernie3647]

Might as well buy a 1969 GTO... No bells and whistles

I’d go with the 66. I like that one better.