Just bought a 2015 Signature 3.8. Buyer's Remorse?

[ksoze]

Most likely they will fail after 100K miles (assuming 20K per year) and your extended warranty will be useless and you will need to dig into your pocket to fix it.

You have some data that says that a sensor will fail at 100K miles?

 

[Nikgen]

Sorry, but you seem to be missing the point. The "Tech" and above have options like Lane Departure Warning, Lane Keep Assist, Smart Cruise Control and Automatic Emergency Braking that rely on sensors that will eventually fail. Most likely they will fail after 100K miles (assuming 20K per year) and your extended warranty will be useless and you will need to dig into your pocket to fix it. Hopefully you’re not the owner of the car at that point.

Also, don’t get me wrong, all the options are good but the more bells and whistles a car has, the more the chances of something can fail.

Nope - you're advocating that if one plans to keep the car long term to pass on the extra tech because you are afraid it will fail and cost a lot of money to fix, which I think is bad advice.

For one, these are not mechanical sensors, so while they will one day fail, that could be a very long time out. In fact, solid state electronics are more likely to fail quickly if there is any defect present. Take the Lane keep assist for example - it's a camera/processor that sends a signal to the electric power steering to keep you in your lane - the part most likely to fail there is probably the electric steering unit itself and that's on the base model too!

You also ignore the fact that until these things fail, the driver gets to take advantage of the extra comfort, enjoyment and safety that they bring - some of which could actually save their life! ...and, if and when they do eventually fail, one can decide for them self if they want to fix or just leave it alone - but they at least got the benefits for the likely very long time that those systems functioned as intended.

 

[jjsC6]

Have buyers remorse if you don't like the car. But not over the price. When you bought it you obviously thought it was worth what you paid for it. You'll make yourself crazy worry about whether you got the best deal or not. Just focus on the car now, the money is already gone.

 

[Mark_888]

Nope - you're advocating that if one plans to keep the car long term to pass on the extra tech because you are afraid it will fail and cost a lot of money to fix, which I think is bad advice.

For one, these are not mechanical sensors, so while they will one day fail, that could be a very long time out. In fact, solid state electronics are more likely to fail quickly if there is any defect present. Take the Lane keep assist for example - it's a camera/processor that sends a signal to the electric power steering to keep you in your lane - the most part likely to fail there is probably the electric steering unit itself and that's on the base model too!

You also ignore the fact that until these things fail, the driver gets to take advantage of the extra comfort, enjoyment and safety that they bring - some of which could save their life! If and when they do eventually fail, one can decide if they want to fix or leave it alone - but they at least got the benefits for the likely very long time that those systems functioned as intended.

First of all, either your posts or TxGenesis01 posts seem to be having problems showing who is being quoted and who is posting. I realize that you may be new to posting on this kind of forum, but you can go back and edit your existing posts by hitting the edit button. If you have any questions or need help, just ask.

As to the substantive points you raised, I am not sure I always agree that solid state components either fail early or last a very long time (well beyond 10 years). The environment that a car operates in can be brutal in terms of temperature and humidity extremes, which can affect electronic components over time. Hyundai has a history of putting cheap electronic components in their cars, as witnessed by the tail-light diode fiasco that affected most of their vehicles. For some reason, the Genesis has had a lot of problems with their higher end sound systems, which the fixed by replacement of the entire head unit or entire multi-channel amp.

 

[Ernie3647]

Have buyers remorse if you don't like the car. But not over the price. When you bought it you obviously thought it was worth what you paid for it. You'll make yourself crazy worry about whether you got the best deal or not. Just focus on the car now, the money is already gone.

yeah!

 

[Nikgen]

First of all, either your posts or TxGenesis01 posts seem to be having problems showing who is being quoted and who is posting. I realize that you may be new to posting on this kind of forum, but you can go back and edit your existing posts by hitting the edit button. If you have any questions or need help, just ask.

Actually it appears to be a flaw in the way the forum works - not either of us having "problems". I just replied by quoting a post as I suspect the other poster did as well. It's the forum that seems to have a problem with quoting replies to posts that already have a quote in them that requires you to fix it yourself. If you follow the thread, you'd easily see who posted what - but I fixed mine since it seems to be an issue for you?

 

[ferrethouse]

Also, don’t get me wrong, all the options are good but the more bells and whistles a car has, the more the chances of something can fail.

That's why I bought a computer with 1 gig of RAM instead of 16 gigs because I didn't want a computer that was more likely to fail.

 

[TxGenesis01]

That's why I bought a computer with 1 gig of RAM instead of 16 gigs because I didn't want a computer that was more likely to fail.

I'm sure the 1 gig of RAM computer will be cheaper to repair then the 16. Either way you are talking about a simple component. If your computer is touch screen, has tv tuner, blueray burner, gaming video card or other stuff, it has a higher probability of something malfunctioning down the road.

Let me make it simple to understand, who has a higher probability of winning the lottery, some one who bought a single ticket or the guy that bought multiple? The more options a car has, the more components it has to potentially fail.

 

[Mark_888]

Actually it appears to be a flaw in the way the forum works - not either of us having "problems". I just replied by quoting a post as I suspect the other poster did as well. It's the forum that seems to have a problem with quoting replies to posts that already have a quote in them that requires you to fix it yourself. If you follow the thread, you'd easily see who posted what - but I fixed mine since it seems to be an issue for you?

Not a huge issue, but I want to respond to the correct person. Many people don't like being accused of posting something that was actually posted by someone else. I don't seem to be having a problem with the quote button when I respond.

 

[Alwaysforward]

Regarding the issue of components breaking down after 100,000 miles, I have a simple solution. At 99,999 miles, trade it in on the next Genesis MY that is available to start all over again.

I have always been one to keep my cars for years past manufacture warranties and have found for the most part, when something breaks, it is still cheaper to fix it than having that monthly car payment.

I have had my Honda Civic SI since new in 2002. After the manufactures warranty expired I had to put in an AC unit ($1175) and Catalytic Convertor ($1300) over the course of a couple of years recently. Take each separately divided by 12 and that is only $98 & $108 per month respectively.

It all depends on your budget and the fact you like what your driving. If I still like driving the car I will keep it and pay whatever is need to keep it running.

Now with Hyundai, from what I learned on this site, it is a must to have the Extended Hyundai Platinum Warranty, more so for the electronics than anything else in these cars as they are expensive to replace.

Like I noted above, keep it till just before the warranty expires then get a new one. When you keep a car that long, you will save a lot of money in the long run not having car payments those last 4-5 years your driving it.

Instead of blowing that money those 4-5 years, set-up a new car fund and make a conscience effort to save that money towards your next new car. The more money you put down, the lower your car payment but the flip side is you will actually have equity in the car.

When you have equity in a car, you have more options at your disposal if needed.

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[jjsC6]

Regarding the issue of components breaking down after 100,000 miles, I have a simple solution. At 99,999 miles, trade it in on the next Genesis MY that is available to start all over again.

I have always been one to keep my cars for years past manufacture warranties and have found for the most part, when something breaks, it is still cheaper to fix it than having that monthly car payment.

I have had my Honda Civic SI since new in 2002. After the manufactures warranty expired I had to put in an AC unit ($1175) and Catalytic Convertor ($1300) over the course of a couple of years recently. Take each separately divided by 12 and that is only $98 & $108 per month respectively.

It all depends on your budget and the fact you like what your driving. If I still like driving the car I will keep it and pay whatever is need to keep it running.

Now with Hyundai, from what I learned on this site, it is a must to have the Extended Hyundai Platinum Warranty, more so for the electronics than anything else in these cars as they are expensive to replace.

Like I noted above, keep it till just before the warranty expires then get a new one. When you keep a car that long, you will save a lot of money in the long run not having car payments those last 4-5 years your driving it.

Instead of blowing that money those 4-5 years, set-up a new car fund and make a conscience effort to save that money towards your next new car. The more money you put down, the lower your car payment but the flip side is you will actually have equity in the car.

When you have equity in a car, you have more options at your disposal if needed.

You have had the car 12 years. That is 144 months. Your 98 and 108 are per year, not per month.

 

[ksoze]

That's why I bought a computer with 1 gig of RAM instead of 16 gigs because I didn't want a computer that was more likely to fail.

What? I hope this is an attempt at sarcasm.

 

[ksoze]

I'm sure the 1 gig of RAM computer will be cheaper to repair then the 16.

And you would be mostly wrong. A 1 GB computer would likely have more issues beside being slow, in part due to low memory for applications and increased disc swapping using VM. RAM is about $150 for 16GB, so even if it all failed, it is a user fixable problem that is cheap for the odds it goes bad.

 

[Seattle Genesis]

That's why I bought a computer with 1 gig of RAM instead of 16 gigs because I didn't want a computer that was more likely to fail.

OMG!! I sure hope you are not serious about this comment. You are kidding right ?!?!!!

 

[Gunkk]

I'm sure the 1 gig of RAM computer will be cheaper to repair then the 16. Either way you are talking about a simple component. If your computer is touch screen, has tv tuner, blueray burner, gaming video card or other stuff, it has a higher probability of something malfunctioning down the road.

Let me make it simple to understand, who has a higher probability of winning the lottery, some one who bought a single ticket or the guy that bought multiple? The more options a car has, the more components it has to potentially fail.

Let me make it simple to understand.

What Mr. Ferrethouse said was, translated into car speak:

"I bought a car with only one wheel because I wanted to reduce my risk of getting a flat tire."

 

[TxGenesis01]

This is my last comment on this thread (since you can't convince someone against there will) and hopefully someone can prove me wrong by getting the same price on an extended warranty for a 3.8 Base and a 5.0 Ultimate AWD.

 

[divachyk]

My current predicament -- purchased the Signature but regret not getting Ultimate, or even the Tech. The front seat of the Signature is uncomfy and I just wish I had the other bells and whistles. Nothing I can do now but enjoy the Signature until I'm able to trade.

 

[sabre3]

My current predicament -- purchased the Signature but regret not getting Ultimate, or even the Tech. The front seat of the Signature is uncomfy and I just wish I had the other bells and whistles. Nothing I can do now but enjoy the Signature until I'm able to trade.

Well why did you buy the Sig? For me it was about the fact that I don't drive for a living so I didn't need lane assist or the smart cruise. I would have loved the HUD or DIS but I didnt need the nanny features. The fact that the car came with so many bells and whistles in the base was a reason why I didn't go BMW or MB. The 7k to get only a fraction of features I wanted wasn't worth it to me. What is worth it to you?

 

[Boulderado]

My current predicament -- purchased the Signature but regret not getting Ultimate, or even the Tech. The front seat of the Signature is uncomfy and I just wish I had the other bells and whistles. Nothing I can do now but enjoy the Signature until I'm able to trade.

You don't have to wait until the end of your lease to get a new car. You can trade in your leased vehicle at any time during your lease.

 

[PMCErnie]

You don't have to wait until the end of your lease to get a new car. You can trade in your leased vehicle at any time during your lease.

While assuming the BOHICA position, of course.