Lowering a Genesis Sedan

[Rey]

As for obtaining OEM parts from Korea, suggest you contact the Korean sellers on ebay who are selling cosmetic parts of the Genesis sedan. They are used to dealing with Americans, and may have access to Korean parts fiches.

 

[GripperDon]

Any web sites for these sources?

 

[motorsportsauthority]

I've hit up my korean source for my emblems. Hopefully, he can get the springs, but he can sometimes be slow getting back to me. So I'm going to try a couple of other avenues.

 

[jastylr]

Let us know what you find out. I'm on the hunt now for some 22's but not sure which route I want to take. I like the TIS 12's that are on the white DUB Magazine Genesis. There's so many wheel styles out there that I wish I could try them all on before making a decision, especially considering the cost.

 

[jastylr]

UPDATE:

Just ordered a set of Neotech sport springs from SeoulfulRacing, the same place supplying a lot of the wing emblems and such. They are special order from Korea and cost $470 which includes express shipping by air.

These are for the sedan as I have been looking for. Anyone interested, contact Jay Kim at kdmguy@yahoo.com

 

[GripperDon]

UPDATE:

Just ordered a set of Neotech sport springs from SeoulfulRacing, the same place supplying a lot of the wing emblems and such. They are special order from Korea and cost $470 which includes express shipping by air.

These are for the sedan as I have been looking for. Anyone interested, contact Jay Kim at kdmguy@yahoo.com

When you replace the springs PLEASE measure the free height of the new ones and the sresent one and coil diameter and wire diameter. A picture of the two side by side would be great. This would be a serious servious to this forum. Also the height of the top of the wheel well from the ground in both cases.

WOW someone with real guts and knowledge. Great, Please keep us informed.

 

[sg1717]

Just wanted to revive this thread in case there were any updates....

 

[dave3.8]

I wanted to switch out the springs to drop 1 inch and Hyundai specifically told me they would take the entire suspension system out of warranty coverage.

 

[nearwater]

I wanted to switch out the springs to drop 1 inch and Hyundai specifically told me they would take the entire suspension system out of warranty coverage.

That's scary.
Is the ride height too tall for you?
My past rides were ALL lowered, but the wheel gaps were huge to begin with.
Personally, I find the ride height/wheel gap of the Genesis to be perfect the way it is from the factory.

Dan

 

[GripperDon]

IMO lower is better about a 1 inch reduction in the, dead cat space.

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[nearwater]

IMO lower is better about a 1 inch reduction in the, dead cat space.

I agree with you with most of the cars, yes.
But with the Genesis, it's already pretty low and the wheel gap looks fine to me.
Just like BMWs with sport package.

I guess it's a preference thing, but to me it looks pretty darn good.
IF I were to lower, it'd be half an inch maybe. But why bother lowering half an inch when the minor difference results in voiding the warranty of the whole suspension.
Not worth IMO.

Dan

 

[jastylr]

Hey there,

I'm back after a long absence since I started this thread. Just to update everyone, I ended installing a set of NeoTech springs in my car which lowered it approximately 1-1/2" or so. Sorry, I didn't get any actual measurements as I was a bonehead and got too excited to get them installed that I forgot.

In any case, I have now just recently switched to ARK Performance DT-P coilovers which have made a world of difference in terms of both performance and ride quality.

My opinion is that lowering springs and the stock Genesis shocks just don't have the right harmony together. If you're going to lower your car with springs, I would strongly suggest changing to performance shocks. But if you were going to do that, you might as well by a coilover set.

I have 20" wheels on my car and the ride with the NeoTechs versus the stock springs was not too severely different but there was a little bounce to it and they could be just as harsh on bad roads. Even prior to installing the springs, the ride was rough and also quite noisy over bumps and dips. I even had some harsh squeaking from the rear end particularly when cold which drove me nuts. I figured it may be swaybar bushings but the squeaking has disappeared since installing the coilovers.

The ride on the coilovers is actually much improved. No more harsh, jolting feeling or road vibration coming up through the wheels and suspension. I just don't think the stock shocks were capable of keeping the wheels planted and they felt like they were bobbling over rough patches. The ride now is smooth, quiet and tight and no wheel vibration. I have the dampening setting on the shocks set to a low value for a comfortable ride.

For all of you who have had complaints about the ride of your Genesis on the stock suspension, I would suggest taking a look at these coilovers. They will set you back about $1350 not including shipping but in my opinion, it's been well worth it. For some reason or another though, the sedan version doesn't have pillow-ball mounts to allow for camber adjustment. Also, you can't easily change the dampening once they are installed, at least on the rears. I read in another thread that ARK could make a tool to allow you to get in and adjust them and I sent a PM to them but have yet to hear back.

That's it for now. Oh and by the way, I have a set of lowering springs if anyone is interested.

 

[HeavyG]

As one poster already noted, the Genesis already sits pretty low to the ground. IMHO, I can't really see any performance advantage to lowering the car further than it's current level. In fact, I can see frequent scraping of the underside as a big problem. Just wanted to toss my 3 cents worth.

 

[motorsportsauthority]

In any case, I have now just recently switched to ARK Performance DT-P coilovers which have made a world of difference in terms of both performance and ride quality.

1st. How much for the springs?
2nd. So, did the coupe coilovers work on your car? If that's the case, I'm curious if that's the same as V8. I'll have to look into it.

 

[Vince2]

I wonder why there isn't more interest in the forum for the "coil over" system for the sedan? There are a bunch threads well actually an entire sub-section on the overly firm genesis ride. If there is an aftermarket solution I will buy it immediatelly! Has anyone besides the OP tried out the system on a sedan? I checked the ARK website and saw only a setup for the coupe. I imagine if the setup could be used on the sedan ARK would have posted so? Gripper? Disaster? Anyone?

 

[Vince2]

OK so I talked with ARKperformance and they report that they do have a coilover system for the3.8 Sedan but just not right now. They say the set will be available late August. This might be just the ticket...the car is just too firm for my taste so much so that if I can't find a way to correct it then I'll sell and get a different car. I really like the car but for the firm (over dampened, under dampened, too little travel, hard suspension stop, or whatever just not so comfortable) ride. If anyone else has experience with this company/product please reply.

 

[jastylr]

Hey guys...

@motorsportsauthority - if you are asking about what the original cost of the springs was, it was $470 which is high but that included shipping from Korea. If you meant how much I would sell them for, I figure like $200 plus shipping. They have about 2 months of use on them. You can PM if you're interested.

@Vince2 - When I ordered my Ark coilovers, I called and ordered them over the phone instead of through their website. I have a 3.8 sedan and I ordered the sedan coilovers. There was never any mention of a difference between the 3.8 and the 4.6 and I wouldn't have thought that they would be making any specifically for the 3.8. I could only think that maybe the spring rates may be a little different since the weight of the 4.6 should be heavier with the V8. As far as mounting, they are the same.

When I originally placed the order, I was looking to get the ST-P version since I figured they would be more comfortable for the street but when It ordered them, they said they were going to go ahead and give me the DT-P version which are better for the same price. The images on their website are actually of the coupe coilovers and have the pillowball mounts for adjustable camber. The sedan version of the coilovers actually don't have these mounts even on the DT-P version.

So far I've been very happy with the ride although I have not played with different dampening settings yet as it's not easy to change them. The guys that installed them for me I believe put them at a setting of 5 all the way around but I need to confirm that since I don't remember. I'm rolling on 20" wheels and have the car lowered to just above the tire and the ride on these coilovers feels good to me. They are firm yet not harsh and the travel feels smoother than my previous setups.

I just purchased another set of wheels and tires today and went with a staggered fitment 20x8.5 and 20X10. I ended up getting some Vertini Hennessey wheels and some Falken FK-452 tires in 245 35 20 and 275 30 20.

Here's an image of them photoshopped onto a black Genesis like my own minus my rear spoiler.

 

[jastylr]

I wonder why there isn't more interest in the forum for the "coil over" system for the sedan? There are a bunch threads well actually an entire sub-section on the overly firm genesis ride. If there is an aftermarket solution I will buy it immediatelly! Has anyone besides the OP tried out the system on a sedan? I checked the ARK website and saw only a setup for the coupe. I imagine if the setup could be used on the sedan ARK would have posted so? Gripper? Disaster? Anyone?

There's more than one website for ARK Performance actually. There's arkperformance.com, arkspeedracing.com and arkperformanceusa.com. The sedan coilovers can be found here:

ARK Genesis Sedan DT-P
http://www.arkspeedracing.com/10_ON_Hyundai_Genesis_Sedan_ARK_DT_P_Coilover_p/cd0704-0910.htm

And here:

ARK Genesis Sedan ST-P
http://www.arkspeedracing.com/10_ON_Hyundai_Genesis_Sedan_ARK_ST_P_Coilover_p/cs0704-0910.htm

The description says 10-ON for 2010 but when they are actually for 2009-10. As I mentioned previously as well, the images they used are actually for the coupe which is what I was told when I called. These images show the pillowball mounts on the shocks for camber adjustment but they don't come on the sedan version.

I guess it's all up to someone's individual preferences and driving style etc as to whether they choose to go with a coilover setup like this or upgrade to the OEM 2010 suspension for those with pre-April 2009 models like my own. If you are just looking for a soft, comfortable stock ride, then change to the 2010 OEM parts. If you prefer a firmer, tighter ride with the ability to lower your car height to suit your needs, then the coilover setup is the way to go. I'm personally used to aftermarket wheels and suspension upgrades on my cars and I prefer that ride style.

BTW, I did just order the 2010 rear swaybar assembly as a poster in one of the other threads mentioned that the bar is thicker and the bushings are about 2X thicker. I have noticed noise coming from my stock rear swaybar bushings so hopefully I can completely eliminate that as well as stiffen up the rear roll even more without messing with the shock dampening.

 

[Water Boy]

I just purchased another set of wheels and tires today and went with a staggered fitment 20x8.5 and 20X10. I ended up getting some Vertini Hennessey wheels and some Falken FK-452 tires in 245 35 20 and 275 30 20.

i can't wait to see this with out the photoshop
that is the exact sizes i'm running on mine and thinking about lowering it too

 

[Vince2]

Thanks for the info Jastylr. Im considering the ARK system. Its pricey but if it can soften the ride I'm willing to give it a shot. Anyday some company is going to provide a simple answer that will make this the car we all thought we were getting. Thanks again.