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2011 3.8 w/tech pkg.

Driven just over 1000 miles with 50-50 freeway and city driving. Can't seem to get my mileage above 18mpg. Expected with the spec of 18-27mpg that I would be in the 22-23 range. Does the Genesis go through a break-in period before seeing improved performance?
 
I don't know if it's normal or not, but I have been getting around 19-20 if I'm lucky.

I have noticed that the milege went down at the beginning of winter, so I wonder if it has something to do with the ethanol blend/winter blend they put in the gas starting in November I think in Colorado at least?

In the summer I was getting around 22-23mpg mix highway/city driving?

I hope it goes back to normal after they stop putting in the ethanol in the gas here.

Hope this helps out
 
have a 2009 3.8, live in Fl.,have 30K miles, get ave of 23mpg. 22 or so all citry and a high of 26 if I can keep it below 70 on freeway. 80 goes down to 24/25. Been this way since new.
 
Most of my driving is in town and rural suburban. I average between 19 and 21.5 on a consistent basis. When I go on road trips, I stay to 9mph over the limit and get 24.5 to 25.9 most times. When I use ethanol free fuel I am mostly at the higher end of my normal range for city and highway. I am going to synthetic oil at my next oil change and will check that with the ethanol free fuel. I think I can consistently get to about 26.5 to 26.8 on the highway with that combination. I any case this is the most economical V8 powered car I have ever owned.
 
I have a 2010 3.8 and drive mostly suburban. I get ~23 mpg in daily driving, but on longer highway trips I get up to 29 mpg. I drive conservatively with a pretty light foot - I keep it mostly in the 65-70 range on the interstate. I have never gotten mileage in the teens like some others are reporting.
 
2011 3.8 w/tech pkg.

Driven just over 1000 miles with 50-50 freeway and city driving. Can't seem to get my mileage above 18mpg. Expected with the spec of 18-27mpg that I would be in the 22-23 range. Does the Genesis go through a break-in period before seeing improved performance?

I have a fairly new Genesis 2011 3.8 with tech pkge also. I drove it home on 12-24-2010.
Drove very carefully for the first 1000 mile not going over 65 and varying speed as much as possible.
Averaged about 19 mpg. during that period. At the end of January I decided to drive it to Florida for vacation. Had my first oil change at that 1000 mile mark and drove it to Florida. 1250 mile trip each way.
I was very curious how the car would do mileage wise, how far it would go on a tank of gas and figured it to be a good break in strategy. Second it was good time to spot any abnormalities that would require attention. I was very pleased with the distance per thankful it was at least 440 miles per tank all highway driving of course. The mileage going down driving between 55 and 75 as each state was different was between 25 and 28 mpg quite respectful numbers for a large car loaded down with considerable luggage. In Florida got about 18 to 19 mpg with combined driving. On the way back made the unfortunate choice of getting gas at station using ethanol. High driving fell to 24 mpg for high way driving. Waited to empty tank as low as possible and refilled with non ethanol blend. Averaged between 26 and 28 mpg for the rest of way home. All my mileage numbers were done with real gas tank math not the display type used by many. I’ve found that method for me to be most accurate. All in all treat2 I would say the car is very capable of returning respectable mileage while being a damn nice ride too. I think your mileage will get better as it breaks in more mine did.
 
2011 3.8 w/tech pkg.

Driven just over 1000 miles with 50-50 freeway and city driving. Can't seem to get my mileage above 18mpg. Expected with the spec of 18-27mpg that I would be in the 22-23 range. Does the Genesis go through a break-in period before seeing improved performance?

I've got about 42K miles on my 2009 v6 now, and as I recall it has always been fairly consistent w/regard to mileage. My daily commute is mixed city and hwy, and I average 21/gal. However, it is apparent to me that how you accelerate from a stop has a significant impact on your mileage figure - if I take things a little slower and accelerate more gradually, mileage edges up to around 23.5/gal. Try not to stress over it, and enjoy the ride. :cool:
 
I have a 2010 with just under 10k miles on it. City driving I get between 18-20mpg and if I wasn't so quick off the line and let the car do more of a slow speed build up I think I would get 19-21. Highway I see 24-26.

Seems like we all are right around the same numbers give or take and all seem to have hoped for better mpg out of the Genny.
 
I have a 2009 3.8 Genesis with 37K miles. I get an average of 19/20 around town and 26/27 highway at about 75mph. I have noticed a roughly 2 mpg decrease since the November timeframe.
I thought they got rid of the blended gas a couple of years ago, but there is no other reason for the mileage decrease.
 
Round trips between Atlanta and Athens Ga 5 days a week and city driving in Atlanta. overall average is 23 mpg with Genesis 4.6 V8. 70mph on I 85.
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Just drove to Florida with my 4.6 and averaged 24 using mid grade gas.
 
Many urban areas use either (or both) of two common fuel blends to improve emissions... and they often use the blends only during specific annual seasons:
1) "oxygenated" fuel
2) ethanol (alcohol added to gas)

Both additives displace gas molecules so the energy available per gallon of fuel goes down. Thus MPG suffers. If your area switches to oxygenated fuel for example, plan on about a 10 to 15% drop in MPG.

Many owners reported improved MPG after a few thousand miles of engine break-in, especially on the Tau V8. I don't remember as much on the V6... but then I don't pay as much attention to V6 issues since I don't have that engine. A few things though can easily trash MPG:

1) driving habits (duh) Coasting to intersections instead of holding the throttle open until the last minute can make a big difference. Shifting to neutral while coasting hurts MPG though: if the engine RPMs are well above idle and your foot is off the gas, the engine computer can go to total fuel cut (no need for gas to slow down) but if you shift into neutral the engine RPMs drop to idle pretty quickly - and the computer has to turn fuel flow back on to maintain idle. Of course everybody knows "jack rabbit" starts clobber MPG.

2) dragging brakes, including parking brake. If I let my car creep just a few MPH and then pop it into neutral it'll coast quite a few feet before coming to a stop. Just a slight incline is enough to make it roll on its own. If your car doesn't do that, something is making the brakes drag or cause other resistance to motion. Another simple test: after a fresh start in the morning, drive just a few miles someplace where you can coast to a stop without using the brakes much. Pull over, put the transmission in Park, and get out... put your hand NEAR each wheel, feeling if any heat appears to be radiating from the brake assemblies. If one wheel is noticeably warmer than its twin on the other side of the car, that one needs attention. It's normal for the fronts to feel warmer than rear brakes since the front brakes do more than half the work. But the left front and right front ought to feel about the same if everything is healthy. How far does your brake pedal move before braking action really begins? If you feel the brakes engaging with less than an inch of pedal travel, the brake master cylinder freeplay might be too small and that'll lead to dragging brakes - especially once the engine bay heats up.

3) alignment issues - if your steering pulls a bit, that's extra rolling drag on the vehicle

4) high-power accessories (air conditioner, headlights) are extra load for the engine

5) low tire air pressures

6) what does your engine temp gauge read? If it doesn't get close to half scale there is a problem with the cooling system - and too much combustion energy is getting sucked away and dumped out the radiator instead of going to the wheels. Most gas engines convert only about a third of the potential gasoline energy into power at the wheels; a third gets dumped as heat out the tail pipe, and a third is wasted as heat dumped by the radiator. A too-cool engine sucks even more heat away from the combustion process.

edit: my V8 sedan gets about 18 around town (no local freeway driving, just lots of un-timed traffic lights) and 25 to 27 on the highway. The V6 cars should get a little better than that - though not as much as you might expect thanks to the different gear ratios between the V6 and V8 differentials. When I'm a lead foot the around-town MPG drops considerably.

mike c.
 
My 2011 V6 gets 22-23mph so far in combined driving. However, it seems like when the weather warms, the mileage increases a bit. I'm talking week-to-week, so it isn't fuel blends.
 
My 2011 V6 gets 22-23mph so far in combined driving. However, it seems like when the weather warms, the mileage increases a bit. I'm talking week-to-week, so it isn't fuel blends.

MPG really suffers at engine startup on a stone-cold engine - that ice cold chunk of metal really absorbs heat from the combustion process making the process less efficient. The colder the ambient temperature, the longer it takes the engine to warm up and thus the longer it takes to get to its most efficient heat range. Also, when the engine is stone cold, the engine computer alters the air/fuel programming a bit to help the engine start up, idle, etc smoothly to compensate for the loss of combustion energy into the metal. That's extra fuel... so MPG is double-penalized on a stone cold engine.

Lots of short trip driving, where the engine has a chance to cool down between trips, magnifies that penalty. If you drive a short distance and then park for a few hours, then drive a short distance back home, the percentage of miles on a "cold" engine versus "normal operating temperature" engine is pretty high ==> penalizes fuel economy. On a long highway trip, only the first few miles of hundreds is "cold engine" so the penalty is negligible to the total MPG.

Years ago there were "high efficiency engine" contests in Washington D.C. The usual way to get high efficiency? Run an engine as hot as possible - minimizing the heat wasted/dumped out the radiator. Does wonders for MPG during the contest... clobbers the durability/lifetime of the engine though. Cars used to have 160 to 180 degree F thermostats in them; over the last couple of decades they've increased to 190, 195, and some go as high as 210 now, maybe more. That's enough to make a 5 to 20% boost in fuel economy depending on driving distances.

mike c.
 
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I've taken two extended trips in mine and got a high of 29 and a low of 24. Highway speeds were from 78 mph to 88 mph with the cruise control on as much as possible. Tires were aired up at a "cold" 33 psi all around. The truck was full, there were 3 adults and one "yapper" dog (19lbs). I can nip pick this car but overall it's the best vehicle I've ever owned - that includes Mercedes, Audi, Volvo, Buick, Cadillac, Lincoln, Nissan and many others. I'm looking forward to the 2012 R Spec.
 
How many miles do you have on the car and what grade gas were you using when you got 29 mpg?
 
Combined driving I get 18-20mpg
 
I took a road trip from Seattle to Vancouver, WA about a 2.5 hour drive down I-5. I averaged 31.2 with speed control on 65-70 mph all the way. Im very pleased with that number.
 
Just returned home from a freeway trip and computer said I averaged 27 mpg at 75-80 mph with 91 octane, 10% ethanol. This seems to be higher than other 4.6 Gennys on the highway, so it could partially be a function of my intake mods in sig.
 
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