Modified Genesis Sedan at HIN Chicago

[ghicks99]

Idk why everyone hates on the fact theat the car is bagged. Me having a bagged genesis as well can say that it rides way better than stock and can adjust for having the car loaded up or jetskis in tow. Usually slamming is is just for when parked, raise to ride height for when I drive, and lift over ride height if I need extra clearance that most cars don't have. Hell, lamborghinis have airride from the factory.

Also, coming from someone who has built turbo cars before, no, everyone wouldn't have that setup if the owner chimed in on how. Im sure its owned by the company that built it or was donated from Hyundai for the project. Im sure the money in that engine is between 15-20k if not more as everything was hand built. Its not necessarily daily driven but sure could be. Its for shows and marketing.

 

[Aquineas]

Idk why everyone hates on the fact theat the car is bagged. Me having a bagged genesis as well can say that it rides way better than stock and can adjust for having the car loaded up or jetskis in tow. Usually slamming is is just for when parked, raise to ride height for when I drive, and lift over ride height if I need extra clearance that most cars don't have. Hell, lamborghinis have airride from the factory.

1. It adds mass to a car that really doesn't need any additional mass
2. It adds non-functional complexity.
3. Either you like the look or you don't. If you do, you are okay with 1 & 2. If not, then 1 & 2 seem unnecessary.

Also, coming from someone who has built turbo cars before, no, everyone wouldn't have that setup if the owner chimed in on how. Im sure its owned by the company that built it or was donated from Hyundai for the project. Im sure the money in that engine is between 15-20k if not more as everything was hand built. Its not necessarily daily driven but sure could be. Its for shows and marketing.

If it were productized, the 15-20K for a one-off wouldn't necessarily translate to the final sales price.

 

[xiaphin]

1. It adds mass to a car that really doesn't need any additional mass
2. It adds non-functional complexity.
3. Either you like the look or you don't. If you do, you are okay with 1 & 2. If not, then 1 & 2 seem unnecessary.

If it were productized, the 15-20K for a one-off wouldn't necessarily translate to the final sales price.

1. Does it really matter? Typically people on bags aren't concerned about this.
2. Care to elaborate? Everything in my air setup is completely functional and not that complicated.
3. Just because it's on air doesn't mean it will have the "look". LS460, Equus are just two that come from the factory with air suspension. Think the older 90 Lincoln Town cars had it too.

Agreed, the kit would be somewhere around 7-10 if made for production.

 

[LandoAWD]

I remember the air on my Range Rover. It was awful...but factory.

 

[Aquineas]

1. Does it really matter? Typically people on bags aren't concerned about this.

It doesn't matter if you like and want "the look", then no weight penalty is too much. If you think the look is ridiculous, then the weight required to obtain the look will also seem ridiculous.

2. Care to elaborate? Everything in my air setup is completely functional and not that complicated.

Moving parts, compressor failures, punctured bags are all more complex than a spring setup. Hopefully you won't have problems with it, but again, these are all things that have the potential to fail, particularly when they're not stock items.

3. Just because it's on air doesn't mean it will have the "look". LS460, Equus are just two that come from the factory with air suspension. Think the older 90 Lincoln Town cars had it too.

The mid-80s Lincoln Mark VII's and Lincoln Continentals had it, and those had about 100 percent failure rate in the field. I'm sure things have gotten more reliable since then.

Listen, it's your money, your car. Maybe you think the look is cool, maybe you don't. Personally I think it looks as ridiculous to me as the "stanced" look, grapefruit-launching exhaust tips, or Injen stickers. If I still had my 2010 (which was too firmly suspended), I could definitely see the functional advantage to adding an air suspension setup to improve the stock suspension (which frankly, sucked). In my 2015, I do not see the need to add the complexity and increase weight. If I did want a softer ride and elected to add an air suspension, it would never EVER be set to the ride-height of the car in the picture above.

 

[suntzuaow]

Could this be the R-Spec we have been waiting for? Or at least the engine. I love my 2012 R-Spec, but after driving it a few years, I need more power. I love the new Ginny styling, but again the engine needs more power. The new CTS-V is in my sights, but can't see myself dropping 85k on a Cadillac. You think we can get this engine in a 2016/17 Ginny for less than 65K?

 

[Sal Collaziano]

The height of a car, parked or rolling, is a personal preference. Some people like it low, some people don't. There is no right or wrong way.

 

[Koolhaas]

i bet that car looks sweet going down the road. I car about wheel gap. BMW's have great wheel gap, stock

I bet that stand alone AEM effects the "ride mode" button. He may have been able to customize that. Probably lost ACC too. who knows, it's a show car.

 

[ghicks99]

If air ride is installed properly, you wont have bag failures. Look at any semis, ambulance (which I drive), city buse etc and they all use air bags of the same type. Our ambulances use air to go up and down like city buses and not one of them has had an issue and they get tons of miles. The added weight is minimal, hell id say the stock suspension parts probably weigh more. And comparing factory air ride is no comparison, especially in part quality. Yes, you do take precautions like carry extra line and fuses, maybe an air manifold. I have 2 compressors, doubt both will die or at the same time. And I have a small manifold setup that if I do have a catastrophic issue I can fill up at a gas station. I just don't know y ur so stuck on the height, I doubt its daily driven at that height. Keyword, adjustable. Just appreciate the build and stop hating on things which your car doesn't have or you don't have experience with. Its just as bad as the 20" wheel debate, everyone thinks its gonna make the ride suck. Its hard to buy a car nowadays without them and you don't see anyone not buying them or complaining. The engineers and designers didn't shy away from them. Just sayin

 

[Aquineas]

Oh for crying out loud, nobody's "hating" on anything. You like it, some don't, and I'm okay with that difference in perspective, as hopefully you are. Vote with your wallet, as will everyone else. FWIW, if I still had my 2010 4.6 I'd have definitely replaced it, probably with an air suspension setup.

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