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Sumitomo HTR Z III (Max Performance Summer) Reviewer's Overall Rating: 9.29

2009 Hyundai Genesis Sedan 4.6 More Tire Reviews for This Vehicle Buy/More Info
Sumitomo HTR Z III
Miles driven on tires: 500
Location: Andover, MN
Driving Condition: Combined Highway/City
Driving Style: Spirited




1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:

Initial Review, 500 Miles on Tires
May 03, 2010

So far I've driven just 500 miles on these tires and I'm very impressed. I'm surprised to see how soft the ride over bumps and the tires are quiet. There are a 500% upgrade compared to the OEM Duncrap 5000's which cost a lot more. I've owned many sets of max performance tires prior to these including Mich Pilots, and Goodforayear's, and even the 2nd generation of these tires the HTR ZII. Sumitomo has done it again and I'm sold on these tires. I've yet to find a tire that can grip so well in the dry and wet and in hard cornering and braking and be so civil with noise and ride comfort! The cherry on top? The price of these tires are excellent! I got 16,000 miles on the way overpriced OEM Duncraps and they weren't that sticky for a summer tire and poor ride. Burnouts now are shorter in distance since spinning tires is fun, but a loss of performance when trying to take off at the stoplight or around the clover leaf.

 

[Ron Veenker]

Not only the tire wear issue, but they send some picky snob around to look for the tiniest imperfections in the body paint and trim. They rack up a pretty sizable surcharge for things I didn't even see and I take good care of my paint! Ron

 

[Ron Veenker]

If you are going to turn the car in, sometimes they force you to put good rubber on it before you turn it in.

I've talked with a lot of guys who swear they will never lease again, because of how the leasing companies nit-pick every little thing, plus tires. I've been told that although the lease contract allows "Normal wear and tear", when it comes time to turn it in, the leasing company wants it perfect.

Oooops, sorry, I meant to quote CTRCBOB in that last post.

Ron

 

[gwhunter]

My stock Dunlop tires are junk! Worn out at 17k. My driving is highway and limited work commute (16 miles round trip). Hyundai has sent me Dunlop customer service and I in at the start of the "replacement" process.

 

[ctrcbob]

Although I have 25,000 miles on my OEM, and still have 4/32 tread left, I'm starting to hear one (or more) tire starting to make the "broken belt noise".

Leaving to return to Florida in a few days, and will listen to see if the noise stays the same, or gets worse. If worse, I just may change in Florida.

 

[Paulroger]

Although I have 25,000 miles on my OEM, and still have 4/32 tread left, I'm starting to hear one (or more) tire starting to make the "broken belt noise".

Leaving to return to Florida in a few days, and will listen to see if the noise stays the same, or gets worse. If worse, I just may change in Florida.

Do you have any thoughts yet on potential replacements? What about Extreme Contact DW Contentinals? I recall reading in a previous post that they are much quieter than the stock Dunlops. I am currently into month 4 of a 3 year lease, and I am considering replacing them with the DW's and putting the Dunlops back on at the end of the lease. That is if the noise factor is that much of an improvement. Anybody else have an opinion?

 

[ctrcbob]

I've never felt that the Dunlops are noisy. They seem quiet to me, except now for one tire, when driving a very smooth new blacktop. On rougher roads, I don't hear that one tire.

After I return to Florida, I'll decide if and/or when to replace. I did check prices on some tires in Rochester, and tire for tire, they cost less in Central Florida, plus the sales tax in Rochester/Monroe County is 8% and if I buy in the Florida's Orange County, the tax is 6.5%. (My Lake County tax is 7%).

I've got time.

 

[Vince2]

Simple question: Will replacing the OEM dunlaps with any number of "softer" tires make the ride less harsh? Yes I've read this entire thread but there is far too much detail. If you've changed the tire and there is a marked difference in the firm ride could you please post. I'm looking at the Michelan Primacy MXV4s H rated. Good choice?

 

[ctrcbob]

Simple question: Will replacing the OEM dunlaps with any number of "softer" tires make the ride less harsh? Yes I've read this entire thread but there is far too much detail. If you've changed the tire and there is a marked difference in the firm ride could you please post. I'm looking at the Michelan Primacy MXV4s H rated. Good choice?

OK, I went and did it. Even though I still had 4/32nds on the tires (2/32nds before the wear bars show), I just could not stand that one (or more) tire having that "thump thump" from a broken belt. I could have just changed one, or two, but I chose to change all four. Priced out tires in my area of Florida, and found two places that would sell me the Pirelli PZero Nero AS for a reasonable price. Both would also install them and do the Road Force Balance. They were within $5.00 of each other, but one tried to talk me into other brands as they "don't like Pirelli's" and the other had no problem ordering the Pirelli's for me, so guess which one I chose? I could have gone with an even less expensive tire, the "Falkon", but I chose the PZero Nero AS
and the cost was much less than the Conti Extreme DWS, or even the MXV4.
When they roadforce balanced them, all four were below 15 lbs road force,
(industry says that under 18 is good) and one of them was 1 lb. (They said that they never saw a tire that was as low as 1 lb road force).

Now, for the important thing. The ride. Yes, my car has a very "stiff" ride. With these Pirelli PZero Nero AS tires, the ride is just very very slightly softer. To give an example of how much softer, I use this example.
Think of a car riding on solid steel wheels. This is how the OEM Dunlop rides.
Think of a car riding on solid rubber wheels. This is how the PZero Nero rides.
This is just an example. Slightly better, but thats all. Note the tires are stock size of 235ZR50-18.

As I posted in another thread, I drove a friends 2011 Mustang GT with Brembo pkg and 19 inch tires and wheels. His Mustang rode just as hard as my Genesis, (or perhaps slightly softer, but I did not push it through bumpy roads).

 

[Vince2]

"very, very slight" Wow that's not promising! The cost of new tires is at least $700 (inc. taxes and install) so I need more than a "very, very slight improvement" to lay down the cold, hard... boy I don't know why I didn't realize how firm the ride was before I pulled the trigger. Maybe I'm just use to the Toyota Avalon ride that I enjoyed for 10 years prior to buying this car. Thanks for the info.

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[ctrcbob]

"very, very slight" Wow that's not promising! The cost of new tires is at least $700 (inc. taxes and install) so I need more than a "very, very slight improvement" to lay down the cold, hard... boy I don't know why I didn't realize how firm the ride was before I pulled the trigger. Maybe I'm just use to the Toyota Avalon ride that I enjoyed for 10 years prior to buying this car. Thanks for the info.

I even considered going with 235/55-18 (55 series) to get the ride softer (and to correct the speedometer) but decided to stay with the 50 series tires.

 

[Vince2]

Hmm...well I have the 17 inch 55 series tires now and the ride is... well you know. I just read in the "suspension" section that I should try 31 psi instead of the 33 recommended on the door post. I'm off to adjust the pressure. I do remember a definite change for the better (i.e. smoother, quiter ride for a car that was already fairley smooth) when I swtched the Dunlap SPs on my Toyota Avalon to the Michelan MXV4's...I remember thinking "I wish had switched to these tire ages ago". It was that much of a difference.