Oil Filter Change

[moley990]

How do I disassemble to old filter to replace the cartridge? I can get the entire unit out, but cannot see how to remove the old cartridge.

 

[Mark_888]

You unscrew the plastic housing with a 27mm socket (12-point socket works perfectly--get one at most Auto Parts stores for about $6.00). Then you just lift the cartrdige out. You do not remove the entire unit.

 

[ctrcbob]

If you have the V8, (vice the V6), the oil filter lays on its side, so before you remove the end cap, (27mm socket) I believe you must first drain the assembly by unscrewing the 6mm allen screw under the assembly. (Otherwise you will make a mess).

I will know better tomorrow, as I will watch while my dealer does my first oil/filter change.

 

[Waki]

Anyone with a suggestion on mileage for the first oil change. I'll hold off till the second change before I go to synthetic.

 

[Mark_888]

Anyone with a suggestion on mileage for the first oil change. I'll hold off till the second change before I go to synthetic.

I switched to synthetic at 1500 miles. The 5W-20 drain oil was mighty thin and dirty, so maybe at most 3750 (half of recommended 7500) would be advisable.

 

[ctrcbob]

If you have the V8, (vice the V6), the oil filter lays on its side, so before you remove the end cap, (27mm socket) I believe you must first drain the assembly by unscrewing the 6mm allen screw under the assembly. (Otherwise you will make a mess).

I will know better tomorrow, as I will watch while my dealer does my first oil/filter change.

Because the assembly lays on its side, the Technician did not first drain the assembly by unscrewing the 6mm allen screw.

First he drained the engine sump. Then he unscrewed the 27mm end cap allowing the oil to drain out. Installed new filter, new rubber gasket on the end cap, then screwed it back on the assembly. Filled engine with six quarts of oil, started it up, then after clacking stopped (see below), shut engine down and rechecked dip stick. Added another three quarters of a quart. Total was six and three quarters quarts.

Only thing I don't like about this design is that you can't pre-fill the filter assembly. When car started, the valve lifters clacked for one or two seconds, until oil pressure got to them. The filter assembly has to fill first. Was told that even the V6 clacks when changing filters, however if I had a
V6, I would pre-fill the filter assembly before screwing on the end cap.
(The V6 assembly is vertical - the V8 is not).

 

[Mark_888]

...if I had a V6, I would pre-fill the filter assembly before screwing on the end cap. (The V6 assembly is vertical - the V8 is not).

Since the V6 assembly is vertical, how can you pre-fill it? It is not vertical pointing down, it is vertical pointing up.

 

[ctrcbob]

Since the V6 assembly is vertical, how can you pre-fill it? It is not vertical pointing down, it is vertical pointing up.

Well, from what I heard, the end cap on the V6 is on the top, and if you remove the end cap, you lift out the filter. Now I don't know for sure as I have not seen it done, but it seems to me that if you lift the filter out from the top of the housing, you can prefill the housing when you replace the filter.

Again, I don't know for sure. Perhaps someone who has seen it done, or has done it themselves can give more information.

 

[Mark_888]

Well, from what I heard, the end cap on the V6 is on the top, and if you remove the end cap, you lift out the filter. Now I don't know for sure as I have not seen it done, but it seems to me that if you lift the filter out from the top of the housing, you can prefill the housing when you replace the filter.

Again, I don't know for sure. Perhaps someone who has seen it done, or has done it themselves can give more information.

I have changed my oil and filter on the V6, and I don't think it is possible to fill it up. When the housing is removed with a 27 mm socket, you can see that it covers more than half of the side of the filter, and it is not just an "end-cap". Might be able to put some oil in there without spilling it on the engine, but certainly not fill it up. I am not convinced yet that it is a problem anyway since I use synthetic oil, which flows well at engine start-up.

There is a pic on this site:
http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/09/17/hyundai-genesis-2/

 

[Ron Evans]

Hello All,
I am new to the site. I purchased my Genesis 3 months ago and have 3700 miles. The book says 7500 miles to the first oil change but the dealer insists that my warrantly will be voided if we don't change it every 3K miles. Any ideas?
Ron

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[ctrcbob]

First, tell that dealer to "go pound salt". Have him show you in your owners manual, or in your maintenance manual where it says every 3000 miles. Also, have him put it down in writing. If you do rough driving, perhaps, but for all other normal driving, it is 7500 miles.
(I'll bet that your dealer even wants to charge you $40 or more, each time you get it changed).

As for me, I change between 7000 and 7500 miles using full synthetics.

On my other car, 02 Continental, I use full synthetics, and change at 10,000 miles.
I could go even longer, just like in Europe, where they call for oil changes (using full synthetics) at 30,000 km which is about 18,750 miles.

 

[CHFM]

Hello All,
I am new to the site. I purchased my Genesis 3 months ago and have 3700 miles. The book says 7500 miles to the first oil change but the dealer insists that my warrantly will be voided if we don't change it every 3K miles. Any ideas?
Ron

You can change the oil every 7500 because the book says so and no your warranty won't be voided,the manuals say 7500 for normal conditions although i would not wait till 7500 with conventional oil. what we recommed here at my dealership is to do it evey 5000 and rotate your tires at the same time.Oil does not break down like it use to and 5000 miles is just fine for oil change intervals, in fact most manufactures are going to 5000 mile oil changes.

 

[crupp]

I agree with the above statement. I did however change my oil at 1,500 miles, after the initial break in, to give the car a good fresh batch of oil. My car (v8 tech) was made in 12/08 and I bought the car in May which means six months on the same oil. Did I need to do it? probably not. But now i know there is good clean oil protecting the engine.