oil types

[Damagecontrol1]

I was reading alot about Royal Purple oil and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. On another note, I just had my oil changed at a Hyundai dealership and the oil dipstick broke the yellow plastic piece in half when removing it. They ended up dropping the oil pan to find it. I have a 2015 3.8 sedan V6 and was wondering if the newer sticks are any better or the same.

 

[Boomer343]

I've used it( not in my Genesis) but don't feel it is anything special or better than main stream full synthetics available for far less money. They have a big marketing department.
You may want to ask over at this web site ... A Review of Mineral and Synthetic Base Oils - Bob is the Oil Guy

 

[Jkon]

I have not used royal purple myself...I have used Amsoil or Mobil 1 in my vehicles/motorcycles for 30 years never had any issues with either of them. Currently use Mobil 1 5W30 in my 16 Genesis and plan to do so as long as I own it.Hopefully that will be for many years to come. I just love my ultimate and look for reasons to take her out for a drive!! Hopefully you like your 15

 

[Andyj]

Good oil info

 

[GarnetTy1473]

I use their racing oil in my son's dragster if that helps. But, it gets changed after every event.

 

[Suburbazine]

I use Amsoil 5w-30 in mine.

I don’t like Royal Purple because the dye makes it harder to judge contamination level when wiping it on a rag. No other issues though.

 

[Mcc]

I use their racing oil in my son's dragster if that helps. But, it gets changed after every event.

Hopefully you or someone can authoritatively answer this question What oil type (syntheti, blend, etc) does Genesis America actually recommend or require for their current lineup? Is it any different between turbo vs no turbo? 6 vs v8? I know nothing about how to interpret the specs In the manual.
thanks

 

[GarnetTy1473]

Hopefully you or someone can authoritatively answer this question What oil type (synthetic, blend, etc) does Genesis America actually recommend or require for their current lineup? Is it any different between turbo vs no turbo? 6 vs v8? I know nothing about how to interpret the specs In the manual.
thanks

I can't get into the Genesis shop manual right now to see if anything is different for the 2019+, and the G70. But, the 2017-18 are

3.8 = 5w30 ACEA A5 or above (API SL, ILSAC GF-3 can be used if the recommended oil is not available
3.3t = 5w30 ACEA A5 or above (API SL, ILSAC GF-3, ACEA A3 oil can be used if the recommended oil is not available
5.0 = 5w20 API-SM &ILSAC-GF4 or above (API SL, ILSAC GF-3 oil can be used if the recommended oil is not available

What all that means, don't know. It doesn't specify full, semi, or non. We use Valvoline full synthetic in our dealership. Factory fill is Quaker State, and I believe it's full synthetic. Going through both Quaker State, and Valvoline oils sites, none of their oils have ACEA certifications, but they are all ILSAC GF5 oils, even conventional. So I guess anything is ok to use. Even the Duramax oil we used for a short time when we first opened is ILSAC GF5.

So yeah, that's all I got.

 

[EdP]

Hopefully you or someone can authoritatively answer this question What oil type (syntheti, blend, etc) does Genesis America actually recommend or require for their current lineup? Is it any different between turbo vs no turbo? 6 vs v8? I know nothing about how to interpret the specs In the manual.
thanks

Interesting question. A few people have indicated the dealer did not use the correct oil. But, did they? Some blends do meet specs. This is from the manual and applies to the 3.8 and 3.3TT. Looks like there is a little latitude in the specs. Doing some searches, not every oil in the literature on the web page gives the list of specs it meets making it difficult to say a particular brand does.

*1 : For better fuel economy, it is recommended to use the engine oil of
a viscosity grade SAE 5W-30 (ACEA A5). However, if the engine oil
is not available in your country, select the proper engine oil using
the engine oil viscosity chart.

Note: ACEA A5 is a European spec. If not available it is OK to use other oils.

On another page you have these notes for 3.8 and 3,3TT
*3 If the ACEA A5 engine oil is not available in your country, you are able to use ACEA B5 or API SN & ILSAC GF-5
*4 If the ACEA A5 engine oil is not available in your country, you are able to use API SM & ILSAC GF-4 (or above) or API SL & ILSAC GF-3.

For the V8, this applies.
*5 If the API SM & ILSAC GF-4 engine oil is not available in your country, you are able to use API SL & ILSAC GF-3.

In addition, what if the dealer is using a non-spec oil and you have an oil related breakdown under warranty. Wouldn't the dealer be liable since they should know what is needed and use the proper oil?

 

[Mcc]

A few people have indicated the dealer did not use the correct oil.

Yes I have read that in several posts but I cannot figure out what Genesis means by the correct oil.

So yeah, that's all I got.

@GarnetTy1473 thanks for trying.

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[Suburbazine]

Let me introduce you to the rage-inducing oil librarians known as BITOG:

Bob Is The Oil Guy

Bob Is The Oil Guy

www.bobistheoilguy.com

Think wrinkly old folks with horn-rimmed glasses arguing over potion formulas.

I say it's too much to worry about for any but the most demanding consumer- just run full synthetic of the specified viscosity and weight. Our engines generally don't have oil consumption issues so there's no need for boutique synthetics to reduce consumption. While I run Amsoil in my Genesis, my favorite "boutique" oil is RLI Bio-SynXtra HDMO

 

[EdP]

Yes I have read that in several posts but I cannot figure out what Genesis means by the correct oil.

@GarnetTy1473 thanks for trying.

Seems subject to interpretation. Based on the "if not available" clause, it seems most any decent oil today is good. It also depends on the driver. For the guys with a tune or their foot on the floor all the time, nothing but the best synthetic would do. For the senior citizen not quite making the speed limit on the way to the grocery store. bacon grease and Wesson oil would probably do.

Oil change times are a guess too. Conditions vary so much from driver to driver and miles per trip and in what climate it is a large set of variables. Ideal would be a test of the oil every x miles. Of course, it costs about half the price of an oil change and takes a couple of days to get results.

 

[carguy75]

I was reading alot about Royal Purple oil and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. On another note, I just had my oil changed at a Hyundai dealership and the oil dipstick broke the yellow plastic piece in half when removing it. They ended up dropping the oil pan to find it. I have a 2015 3.8 sedan V6 and was wondering if the newer sticks are any better or the same.

I have used Royal Purple oil in the past with my old Nissan/Infiniti SUVs (2006 Murano and 2004 FX45) with no issues. Its seems like a good oil to use. I now only use Valvoline synthetic oils in my current cars.

 

[Damagecontrol1]

I've used it( not in my Genesis) but don't feel it is anything special or better than main stream full synthetics available for far less money. They have a big marketing department.
You may want to ask over at this web site ... A Review of Mineral and Synthetic Base Oils - Bob is the Oil Guy

I was reading alot about Royal Purple oil and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it. On another note, I just had my oil changed at a Hyundai dealership and the oil dipstick broke the yellow plastic piece in half when removing it. They ended up dropping the oil pan to find it. I have a 2015 3.8 sedan V6 and was wondering if the newer sticks are any better or the same.

Thanks for all your replies. My dealership said that they used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum full synthetic for my oil change. I will most likely stick with it since it shows good reviews.

 

[TinsleyC]

That's good oil, and it meets the ACEA A5 spec.

 

[inmanlanier]

At the risk of stirring some heated debate (let's all stay civil here) - if you are going to change oil at the recommended service interval, any name brand oil will be fine. The API specs have improved dramatically over time and they are all quite stringent. When I am out of warranty, I go to a 15,000 mile interval with full synthetic (Mobil 1). I've been doing this much of my adult life with testing to back it. Per my bud's recommendations based on his research, I no longer change the filters at 7500 miles in those cases, just when I swap the oil. Under warranty, since the difference in price is close, I just inventory synthetic so I don't have to worry about which oil for which car (I have 5).

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

At the risk of stirring some heated debate (let's all stay civil here) - if you are going to change oil at the recommended service interval, any name brand oil will be fine. The API specs have improved dramatically over time and they are all quite stringent. When I am out of warranty, I go to a 15,000 mile interval with full synthetic (Mobil 1). I've been doing this much of my adult life with testing to back it. Per my bud's recommendations based on his research, I no longer change the filters at 7500 miles in those cases, just when I swap the oil. Under warranty, since the difference in price is close, I just inventory synthetic so I don't have to worry about which oil for which car (I have 5).

What kind of testing do you perform?

 

[inmanlanier]

In the day my friend's shop had analysis done out of town - can't remember by whom. Typical oil analysis. Today I use Blackstone. They do full analysis of particulate matter as well as oil properties.

Attached is one I did with my Expedition at 15,000 miles. Note all oil properties still in spec at 15K miles. The filter had not been changed either.

 

[TinsleyC]

I used Blackstone to test the oil in my prior car, a G37, and if it recall it was tested at 5,000 - and they basically said all was well, keep driving, and increase the interval. They are cheap to use, they even send you a free container to send in your oil.

 

[CharlesMagnus]

Project Farm did a somewhat formal analysis on all the brands of synthetic oil. Amsoil won and Pensoil got second. Penzoil is usually much cheaper than Amsoil. I personally use Amsoil Signature in my 15 Genesis V8. The manual states for the 15 that Quakers State is the recommended oil. The link to the analysis: