Planning to buy used Genesis

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Thank you Mark for that info. Definitely something to keep in mind with mine. Though, being a car guy and mechanic by trade and hobby, I know how to start, warm up, and maintain my cars so I hope I don't ever run into any such issues.... I hope lol.

 

[PMCErnie]

Yes, the original poster has likely taken a powder and bought a Toyota. Driven away, no doubt, by "you know what."

 

[Jet]

So what’s the advice if you still want to purchase a ‘12 R-Spec 51000 miles serviced regularly via Carfax?
Obviously the warranty is out so what extended warranty would be recommended?
Thanks!

 

[Paul]

If it's got 51k, the warranty should still be good, depending on the time that it first went into service.. (5 year/60k miles) If it's a certified car (CPO), the powertrain warranty will take you to 10 years/100k miles. Most dealerships that I've dealt with tend to look more at miles vs calendar time. My recommendation is that if you do purchase a dealership offered warranty, buy one that will cover your anticipated mileage over the course of how ever long you finance the car.
What is your budget? There are low mileage 14's out there for under 22k.
Do not trust carfax as your sole source for the history of the car. They're junk and easily manipulated.

All in all, these are fairly reliable cars and unless you buy a total piece of shit, you shouldn't have too many issues. I bought my 2012 in 2016 as a CPO with 42k and did not purchase any sort of aftermarket warranty. I'm at 103xxxk now and have no worries that this car will continue to be reliable for a very long time.

 

[Jet]

Paul,
My issue is the build date August ‘11 and all of the references to a new engine/tranny not properly resolved until April ‘12 or later...oil consumption leaking into the combustion chamber etc...causing cat problems blown engine?
I appreciate all input just really like this vehicle and the price is okay at $13,900 before negotiations if it make a difference it’s in the Austin Texas metro...thanks!

 

[Gunkk]

Jet: Take the VIN# to your local dealer and ask them if they'll give you a) a detailed service history, and b) write an extended warranty on the car. Talk to the service writer about the car and its history. Odds are low you can get a Hyundai backed extended warranty due to the car's age, but you never know. They might say yes, they might say no and offer you other non-HMA warranty options you can explore.

 

[Bootsman84]

I have owned an 09 4.6 for 4 years now. I live in Wisconsin where it likes to snow. I drive it year round. I bought it with 50k on the odometer. The motor blew up within 3 months. I had a full warranty so it was covered. Turned out the previous owner drove it 50k miles without changing the oil and I have a heavy foot.
The car drives nice. It's comfortable on long drives. Has decent acceleration when you smash the pedal. It's pretty slow and unresponsive if you don't nail it. I also have a SRT8 that kills it performance wise, but it gets up and goes. I got rid of the Hyundai emblems and no one knows what it is. I have had 2 people in the last 4 years know what it is.
My biggest issues with the car are there aren't really any options for performance upgrades, the traction control can't be fully turned off other than pulling a fuse or the wiring diagram on this forum(which is awesome), my locker works when it wants, and it's really slow for the amount of HP it has.
Overall I love the car, I haven't gotten rid of it yet.

 

[Gunkk]

The Genesis is a luxo-barge. Big, heavy, slow. But looks great and has lots of toys for the $$. Really really nice to ride around in as a daily driver and fantastic long distance highway cruiser.

I hear ya about comparing to the SRT8, which is an awesome muscle car, but a completely different animal to the BH.

When I want to get into the right pedal, I drive this. Fun on the weekends and good for taking the wife to the beach...

 

[Bootsman84]

The Genesis is a luxo-barge. Big, heavy, slow. But looks great and has lots of toys for the $$. Really really nice to ride around in as a daily driver and fantastic long distance highway cruiser.

I hear ya about comparing to the SRT8, which is an awesome muscle car, but a completely different animal to the BH.

When I want to get into the right pedal, I drive this. Fun on the weekends and good for taking the wife to the beach...

That looks fun.

 

[Paul]

Paul,
My issue is the build date August ‘11 and all of the references to a new engine/tranny not properly resolved until April ‘12 or later..
I appreciate all input just really like this vehicle and the price is okay at $13,900 before negotiations if it make a difference it’s in the Austin Texas metro...thanks!

What I would do if you're really worried about it, is spend the extra couple of bucks and buy the aftermarket bumper to bumper warranty and hope for the best. My car is an early 2012 with a build date of December 2011. Not all early 12's are susceptible to the oil consumption issues and I feel that some of it might be hype. I will admit that once in a great while, my tranny gets a bit wonky on it's up 2~4 upshift, but its fairly rare. As far as oil consumption, I have my oil changed every 3k so I haven't really noticed much there. For reference, my car has 104k on it and my driving style is normal to somewhat aggressive. I mean lets be real, they wouldn't have given the car a 429 hp motor if they didn't want you to beat on it every so often.
@Gunkk , I wouldn't call the Genesis a big heavy, slow luxo barge per se, and it's not nearly as big and heavy as the Charger/300 SRT-8. Just looking at the two cars mathematically, the Genesis comes out on top across the board.
The 1st generation Genesis 5.0 weighs in at just over 4000lbs vs the Charger/300 which weigh in at a hair over 4400lbs. The Genesis' 5.0 motor makes 429hp which puts it at just over 85hp/liter vs just under 76hp/liter for the 6.4 that the Charger SRT has. That means that the Genesis has a power to weight ratio of 9.3/1 vs 9.0/1 for the Charger/300.

What does all of this mean? Who knows.. I will say this though, the Genesis isn't necessarily slow by any means, and in stock trim will go bumper to bumper with a 2016 Mustang GT and a Challenger SRT from a dig to about 120ish and will completely blow the doors off of the Challenger R/T. Just saying

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[Gunkk]

Fair enough. It's not a '73 sedan deville. And yes the 5.0 is about a second quicker to 60 than a '12 Challenger R/T per Motor Trend.

I guess it's all relative... I used to think it was fast, but then I got the ZL1.

 

[Gunkk]

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[Mark_888]

Hyundai sold almost 34,000 Genesis in 2012, how many of those have had transmission problems and needed to have the transmission replace?

A significantly higher number than any other model year of the Genesis sedan (2009-2018). 2012 was the very first year that transmission was used by Hyundai or Kia.

...the 8 speed transmission is great and superior to the 6-speed.

No, the 8 speed is not superior to either of the 6-speed transmissions used in the Hyundai Genesis. The 8-speed gets slightly better gas mileage (very slightly) and that's about it. The 6-speed has better drivability.

The 2009-2011 Hyundai Genesis V6 models used an Aisin 6-speed (same transmission used by Lexus and many other brands), and the V8 used a ZF 6-speed used by BMW and others. Very few problems reported on this forum regarding either of those two transmissions.

 

[dahammer]

I’m fairly new to this forum which I found while trying to research the 2012 3.8 with the tech package. Most of what I read gave it great reviews but It seemed as if one of the common problems was the new 8 speed transmission. Even though I’d been a die hard Volvo fan for the last 9 years, I ended up buying my first Genesis 8 months ago.......from a local Volvo dealer, no less. It had 35k miles and a build date of January 2012.

I think my car was on the lot for awhile and a week or so from being sent to the Manheim auction. I decided to buy an 4/48 extended warranty from a local Hyundai dealership that I would use for service. About three months later I could feel the transmission acting up: a little mushy off the line under mild acceleration, a jerk between 2 and 3, occasionally not being able to drop into 5th (the engine would race and slam into 5th; once my wife thought we were rear ended), noticeable downshifting as I approached a stop light. I took it into the dealership and they made some adjustments, but the issues resurfaced a few weeks later.

Two weeks ago I dropped it off at the Hyundai dealership and they agreed that it needed a new tranny. It took a couple days for someone from Zurich to come out and approve the claim, and I came back to pick up a loaner: a Sonata Hybrid. Honestly, it was a decent car that got 43 mpg. I picked up my Genny yesterday with a rebuilt transmission. The bill came to $3400 and Zurich had approved up to $3900.

I’ve driven it for about 8000 miles, I love the sound system, it’s a great highway cruiser, it has plenty of power and has lots of leg room when I need space for four plus it gets great fuel economy. My only beef is the display in the dash, the GPS looks like something Fred Flintstone designed and the Sirius XM controls are very crude. (Well my minor beef is the seats are not nearly as comfortable as brand V......those Swedes sure know how to make my butt cheeks smile. The world’s best seat: 1998 S70, living room comfort)

I would absolutely recommend this car, but because of all the electronics and the issues with the first year Hyundai built tranny, buying one without a warranty takes a big set of balls, deep pockets, or both. If you buy a CPO from a dealer, you should get the 10/100k warranty.

PS, I was cocksure my next car would be a Volvo S80 with the Yamaha V8. An absolute fait accompli. Except I drove three of them and they just plain sucked. Didn’t like the handling, the engine was not as peppy as I had expected, and the interior was not much bigger than my ‘05 S60 that I gave my daughter. So I went on a hunt for something bigger and arrived here.