Possible Genesis purchase, looking for feedback

[SLCPUNK]

I've been eyeballing this model for a few years now. Really love the new model (wow), but also love the first generation, and it's in my price range.

I'm a bit of an oddball. I've been driving the same two cars for 14/15 years (Mercedes c280-1994 and Camry 1997.) Both excellent cars for different reasons. And despite being 21 years old, the Mercedes is still my daily driver. I do 75% of the work myself on these cars, and what I don't deem is safe/too much work, I bring into an indy mechanic to do. I'm completely out of the loop in regards to car technology as you may imagine.

I'm finally ready for a new car-lol, and I'm also tired of wrenching on autos in my spare time. Likewise, I need something that isn't going to be a constant headache. Something that is dependable and that is pretty much routine maintenance. A part of me wants to keep it as simple as possible (Mazda6, Sonata, or Accord.) But the other part of me looks at this Genny and realizes what a tremendous value it offers compared to a regular mid sized sedan.

I read reviews, and they seem to be all over the map. People seem to have such varying experiences, and I'm not sure what the overall consensus is.

I'm curious what you think are the best years for this generation, and what problems potential owners may need to be aware of? I've never owned a warranty, although would consider with this purchase. Also curious about overall running costs? How DIY is this vehicle? I'd primarily be interested in a 3.8 and under 20k.

Any information you may have would be appreciated.

 

[Mark_888]

The Genesis V6 engine has been very reliable, partly because the Lambda engine has been around on other Hyundai and Kia vehicles since before the Genesis. The higher-end entertainment, Nav, and electronic systems have had some problems, and Hyundai cannot fix them, just replace the units (which costs a fortune out of warranty), so that is a factor in deciding if you want an extended warranty. The base trim systems are more reliable for that reason. Of course, buying a used car is always a gamble, and I personally don't like to do it.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. Since the Genesis is a luxury car - it's best to either purchase it with an extended warranty or an aftermarket warranty (which is typically pretty inexpensive - but great for peace of mind). All luxury cars eventually run into issues...

 

[SLCPUNK]

OK, good to know, thank you. I'll search after market warranties here. If anybody has a company they recommend I'd always appreciate it.

I'd certainly be buying used, and imagine I'd drive the next car for no more than 3-5 years. I'm not sure how many miles is too much though.

 

[SLCPUNK]

What do you guys think about this one? Seems like a very reasonable asking price. I'd still make an offer, and miles are a tad high, but not too much for me.

Actually this seems like a better deal. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

 

[Ernie3647]

I’ve said this before in my opinion the 2013 model year was one of the best for Genesis. Lots of the minor annoyances had been honed out and it was a very capable car. These used rental models I think are a good deal as long as the mileage is within reason and a service record is obtainable which they should be. Though they lack any of the option packages it just makes for a more reliable car with no gremlins to deal with. One of my friends just bought one a couple of months ago and he’s very happy with it. I’ve driven it and it runs great. We did get the service records on it before purchase and it’s still got 3 years left on the original warranty.

 

[SLCPUNK]

I’ve said this before in my opinion the 2013 model year was one of the best for Genesis. Lots of the minor annoyances had been honed out and it was a very capable car. These used rental models I think are a good deal as long as the mileage is within reason and a service record is obtainable which they should be. Though they lack any of the option packages it just makes for a more reliable car with no gremlins to deal with. One of my friends just bought one a couple of months ago and he’s very happy with it. I’ve driven it and it runs great. We did get the service records on it before purchase and it’s still got 3 years left on the original warranty.

Great to hear. I don't care about tech stuff at all. I just want a solid ride that's built like a tank/safe/rwd. If I can find that, and it clears a PPI by a third party shop, then I'll be fine. Going to test drive them both tomorrow night!

I'm also going to test drive a Hyundai Sonata Limited, but can't imagine it will compare. It does have more goodies (sun roof, back up camera etc), but only has 10k less miles and would come in roughly at the same price. But who knows...I'll try them both.

 

[Gunkk]

The factory bumper to bumper warranty is 5/60, so a 2013 with 24k miles will still give you 3/36. No HPP or aftermarket warranty needed. Note, however that the radio/head unit warranty is only 3/36, and the original 10/100 powertrain warranty only applies to the original owner and is not transferrable.

In addition to the normal carfax, take the VIN of the car you intend to buy to a hyundai dealer service writer and have them look up the service history. They may or may not share it with you but can usually tell if it's been adequately serviced to honor the 5/60 warranty. That will also tell you a bit about how the dealer's service dept. operates in the event that you need them for something other than your regular garage-wrench-turn work.

You may still be able to drop $20 for a short subscription to: https://www.hyundaitechinfo.com/ and pull the same telematics info available to the dealer.

 

[Bill K]

If I was looking for a used Genesis, I would look at a Certified Pre Owned one. With a CPO model from a Hyundai dealer, you get the balance of the 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty, along with the balance of the 5 year 60,000 mile bumper to bumper coverage. (A Genesis transmission could cost $9,000/$10,000)
I would look for a 2014 model, as late as possible. (just before the 2015's came out)

 

[SLCPUNK]

If I was looking for a used Genesis, I would look at a Certified Pre Owned one. With a CPO model from a Hyundai dealer, you get the balance of the 10 year 100,000 mile power train warranty, along with the balance of the 5 year 60,000 mile bumper to bumper coverage. (A Genesis transmission could cost $9,000/$10,000)
I would look for a 2014 model, as late as possible. (just before the 2015's came out)

I'm actually driving a CPO this evening. I drove that Hertz one, and while the price was alluring, the car was beat up.

To be clear, if I bought a CPO does the remaining bumper to bumper include all the tech stuff, such as stereo etc? I read a lot of unhappy consumers online talking about Hyundai's ambiguous bumper to bumper, and would want to make sure as much as possible was covered.

If I understand correctly if I picked up a CPO with 30k, I wouldn't need to get an extended warranty until around 49.9k miles?

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[OneFunGenesis]

The warranty on the tech is only 3yrs 36k miles. That means that the tech warranty is almost run out on a car with 30k miles

 

[SLCPUNK]

OK thank you.

So then I'd need an extended warranty to cover the tech? How long could I get covered on that?

 

[triple33]

Purchased new 2012 Genesis 3.8 base model in January of 2013. Has been an excellent car and would recommend looking at a used 2012 with reasonable miles. I would recommend this car to anyone who wants a solid car at a very reasonable price.

 

[FS00008]

Just joined to follow this thread. I'm considering a CPO Genesis R Spec alongside the new Charger Scat Pack. I am leery of FCA products after having issues with Chrysler in the past, but they are offering a new bumper to bumper extended no questions asked warranty that can be purchased alongside the new car, so there's that. Is there such a deal offered through Hyundai?


Secondly, I drive approximately 70,000 miles a year for work and would want to keep the car for 3-4 years. Can a Genesis stand up to that? Can Hyundai dealers in smaller towns service these things the way a Charger can be serviced at any Dodge dealer?

 

[geops]

Since you drive a lot, you're probably better off with a lifetime warranty if that is what you talked about. Hyundai has purchase option for 10 year / 100000 miles bumper to bumper but it will not help you much. Seems like the reasonable choice in your case would be dodge/jeep/chrysler with lifetime bumper-to-bumper warranty.

 

[FS00008]

Since you drive a lot, you're probably better off with a lifetime warranty if that is what you talked about. Hyundai has purchase option for 10 year / 100000 miles bumper to bumper but it will not help you much. Seems like the reasonable choice in your case would be dodge/jeep/chrysler with lifetime bumper-to-bumper warranty.

That's what I'd get if I got a Dodge or Chrysler, but I'd rather go something else than Chrysler if there is a better option

I drove the Genesis and loved it. So much quieter than the equivalent FCA product, and fit and finish felt better too.

 

[geops]

Luxury-wise the genesis is better than the Dodges. The chrysler 300 is somewhat close. Sadly, you can't get more than 10y/100K extended warranty for the genesis. If I were you, I'd get a Chrysler 300 with lifetime bumper-to-bumper. You just drive too much for anything else to be feasible

P.S. Considering that you're eyeing the R-Spec version, there's also a V8 version of the 300 that has a very similar engine.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

The Genesis is a nicer car than any Dodge/Chrysler competitor and that's coming from somebody who has owned both, actually likes the FCA products quite a bit - and plans to get a Hellcat Charger some day.

But 70,000 miles per year............. You need a lifetime warranty.

 

[SLCPUNK]

I test drove another yesterday 2012 3.8. I did not care for the interior on that particular auto, but the engine was supremely quiet. I didn't even know it was on. The Missus is finally starting to warm up to the car now too...

 

[limitwheel]

I'm also looking at a possible 2013 Genesis 3.8 purchase.
This one is a new car with 335 miles, premium package and never titled.
The only thing stopping me is the price $24,600.
Am I crazy to consider this car for this price?