Potential buyer needs help.

[jef9876]

I just drove a base 3.8 yesterday. I like the car. I also test drove a Maxima which I also liked very much.

My questions for this group,
1) How has the car held up quality wise (broken bits, squeaks, major repairs)
2) What type of fuel eccomony have have you observed.
3) How has the cost of ownership been (price of OEM repair parts, ect)
4) Would you do it again.

Thanks for the input,
Jeff K

 

[dg_moore]

I just drove a base 3.8 yesterday. I like the car. I also test drove a Maxima which I also liked very much.

My questions for this group,
1) How has the car held up quality wise (broken bits, squeaks, major repairs)
2) What type of fuel eccomony have have you observed.
3) How has the cost of ownership been (price of OEM repair parts, ect)
4) Would you do it again.

Thanks for the input,
Jeff K

I have a 3.8 Premium with Nav - purchased in February.
1. No problems whatever
2. Better than my Azera - ~22 around town, ~29 on the highway
3. Too soon to tell, haven't had to purchase any yet
4. In a heartbeat! I like this car better than any I have owned since 1959 when I bought my first car.

 

[dg_moore]

... that includes BMW, Mercedes, Volvo, and too many American cars to remember

 

[danieltoye101@msn.com]

My 3.8 Tech Genesis has been a dream. Other than decison between a V6 and V8 what package do you want to get. TECH package will give you all the bells and whisles including 17 lexicon DVD 7.1 discret surround sound. Will be purchasing the car after the lease is up (23 months) and will likely purchase another one or Equus in the next year.

 

[Weibel]

The Hyundai Genesis sedan is an excellent car - quality, reliability and value are its hallmarks, not to mention performance and luxury. I am more than pleased with my 3.8 sedan. I've owned three different Audis over the years and all three had reliability problems. My brother has owned several 3 series BMW's and they too had reliability problems. So much for highly vaunted German engineering - I would not own a German car after the warranty expires. Korea is now turning out world class vehicles and Hyundai is confident enough in its products to offer a warranty extending to 10 years.

 

[ohiogenesis]

I have the 3.8 premium pkg. This is a great car, however, I would not purchase if you live where it snows. The stock Dunlop tires on this car are horrible in the snow. There was a couple of days last winter where I could not drive the Genesis due to snow(1-2 inches) Spins out and slides. Just sayin!!

my .02

 

[TJPark01]

1) How has the car held up quality wise (broken bits, squeaks, major repairs). Some minor annoyances here and there, but nothing major. Everything has been repaired under warranty.
2) What type of fuel eccomony have have you observed. - For the V8 about 20mpg, mixed city and highway use. COnsidering the amount of power this car has and that you can use regular unleaded, it's pretty good for a close to 400hp V8.
3) How has the cost of ownership been (price of OEM repair parts, ect)
Cost of ownership has been very low. I bot 2 oil filters in the past year. Just got a flat tire that was $200, but not the cars fault.
4) Would you do it again. - Without question. In fact I have to get another car, and I was contemplating getting another one, but the wife won't have it.

 

[ldrider]

We have owned a 2009 3.8 premium and tech package for three weeks. After test driving last September I said it is the nicest car I have been in. Love driving the car. I am 6'4" tall and there is plenty room. A little different ride than the M 35 and IS 250 we were looking at.The Genesis is a lot of car for the money. 17 speakers rock.

 

[dg_moore]

I have the 3.8 premium pkg. This is a great car, however, I would not purchase if you live where it snows. The stock Dunlop tires on this car are horrible in the snow. There was a couple of days last winter where I could not drive the Genesis due to snow(1-2 inches) Spins out and slides. Just sayin!!

my .02

Or, for Pete's sake, get some snow tires for winter. Just sayin' ...
OEM tires that are not good in snow don't seem to be much of a reason for not buying a great car.

 

[Mark_888]

Or, for Pete's sake, get some snow tires for winter. Just sayin' ...
OEM tires that are not good in snow don't seem to be much of a reason for not buying a great car.

In most areas where it snows, one can easily get by with FWD (and obviously AWD) with decent all-season tires. I don't blame someone for bypassing the Genesis because of the RWD if they live where it snows. Unless one lives in an area that is extremely bad in the winter, I would not even consider buying a car where I had to switch to snow tires in the winter (did that once, but never again).

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[Sayantsi]

1) How has the car held up quality wise (broken bits, squeaks, major repairs)
Almost 20k mi so far. Nothing broken that wasn't broken from the factory! TSBs fix most of that, and nothing has gone wrong with the car since. Steering wheel cable TSB, radio equalizer TSB. Nothing major. My biggest complaint is that the center arm rest doesn't have enough padding.

2) What type of fuel eccomony have have you observed.
22-23 city, 27-31 highway, trend is to the lower numbers for a 3.8.

3) How has the cost of ownership been (price of OEM repair parts, ect)
No repairs out of warranty, oil changes with synth are around $40, tires seem to be $100-160 each depending on what you buy.

4) Would you do it again.
Yes.

 

[Mark_888]

My biggest complaint is that the center arm rest doesn't have enough padding.

The Genesis was specifically designed with a firm arm rest. I personally like it that way and think it is perfect the way it is. If Hyundai decided to make it softer, it would probably upset a lot of owners and potential buyers.

You should have noticed the firm arm rest during your test drive before you bought the car.

 

[cschuler]

I had been driving Lincoln Town Cars for 20 years and you know what happened to them. So, I was forced to do some searching and came up with the Genesis as my next car. So far, just loving it! Good ride (but much stiffer than TCs), better handling, acceleration and braking. Much more fun to drive.

So far, the 3.8 Genesis is doing a little better on gas mileage ... but not the improvement that I had expected.

No problems yet, other than cockpit errors. The user interface is very different and I have the goodies with the advanced technology package to learn. This package might not have been necessary, in my case. I'd probably go with the basic 3.8 Genesis sedan, if I had it to over.

 

[ttsig]

1) How has the car held up quality wise (broken bits, squeaks, major repairs)

43K miles, a few minor squeaks, but I've gone hunting and squashed most of the worst offenders.

Two service issues, a bad O2 sensor caused the car to almost stall completely before the computer compensated. Replaced under warranty while I waited. Just last week I had to get the passenger door lock solenoid replaced as it was very intermittent, especially when hot. Also under warranty.

Replaced tires at ~34K miles with Yokohama H4S (nothing special, but got a good deal at ~$100/tire). The Yokohama's are not quite as sticky as the Dunlops, but are quiet, and have a 60K mile warranty and were priced right.

2) What type of fuel eccomony have have you observed.
I have the V6, I generally see 24-27MPG with mixed driving based on how aggressive I am that week. Actually lost about 1 MPG with the Yokohama tires as opposed to the Dunlops.

3) How has the cost of ownership been (price of OEM repair parts, ect)

The tires and oil changes are the only things I've paid for. So far I've let the dealer do the oil changes (~30/ea, but sometimes discounts for ~$10). Oh yea, and new wiper blades. I put on a set of Bosch blades for about ~$40 from AutoZone.

4) Would you do it again.

That's a tough question. I love the car about 99% of the time, so probably yes, but, sometimes when I'm on one of those stretches of road that jostles me around too much, I want a softer ride. The problem is, what else would I buy? I'm not aware of another vehicle that offers the size and comfort of the Genny for anywhere near the same price. There are other cars that are softer, but their not as big and not as fun to drive. Then there are cars that are similar size, offer a more compliant ride, and are still fun to drive, but cost significantly more. I think I'd still save my money and buy the Genny and enjoy it the 99% of the time just like I do now.

 

[dataguy]

1) How has the car held up quality wise (broken bits, squeaks, major repairs)

13,700 miles at 13 months as a daily driver in Los Angeles traffic. No major issues. Mostly minor fit/finish issues covered under warranty. Bad overhead light switch that caused flickering--replaced under warranty. A few phantom issues that haven't been worthy of a service visit (one unexpected engine shutdown in park/idle, and a few unexplained resets of the trip computer and XM radio station category filter).

2) What type of fuel eccomony have have you observed.

See signature below.

3) How has the cost of ownership been (price of OEM repair parts, ect)

I've spent more on modifications to the car (tint, badges, LED lights) and wash/car care products than on parts and service (two synthetic oil changes, tire rotation/balance, paint chip pen, and engine and cabin air filters that I haven't had to install yet). Still plenty of rubber on the OEM tires and good brakes wear left).

4) Would you do it again.

Yes. Certainly room for improvement but it's the best car I've ever owned. It's likely going to be new features/gadgets that will drive me to replace this with a future Genesis model rather than the car itself. Head turning factor is a big plus.

I too would like a softer ride, but I'm well-aware that it's probably paradoxical for there to be a car with sports handling yet a soft ride, especially in the price segment.

 

[ASHDUMP]

The Genesis was specifically designed with a firm arm rest. I personally like it that way and think it is perfect the way it is. If Hyundai decided to make it softer, it would probably upset a lot of owners and potential buyers.

You should have noticed the firm arm rest during your test drive before you bought the car.

haha -

I notice the firm arm rest as well.... wish it was a little more plush! I'm guessing the engineers designed the arm rest on the rear suspension.

 

[bradyb]

I just drove a base 3.8 yesterday. I like the car. I also test drove a Maxima which I also liked very much.

My questions for this group,
1) How has the car held up quality wise (broken bits, squeaks, major repairs)
2) What type of fuel eccomony have have you observed.
3) How has the cost of ownership been (price of OEM repair parts, ect)
4) Would you do it again.

Thanks for the input,
Jeff K

hi jeff!

i have an '09 4.6 (v8) with a cat back exhaust. my average combined mileage is 25.5-ish mpg on the fwy i can get 32.9mpg with the exhaust its close to 400 hp ummm yes 400! no repairs. no problems, tons of compliments.

i had a maxima years ago and liked it very much. try driving the v8- genesis, just for giggles... good luck

 

[jef9876]

Thanks Guys,

It always helps to hear from the owners.
I stopped by last night to just stare at the cars again, I think I am going to do it.
I wanted a dark grey car with just the premium package, can't find one.
The local dealer has a light blue base model, no miles very cheap, might go that way.

 

[dg_moore]

Can your dealer find you a grey one? When I bought my black/black premium/nav the dealer didn't have one on the lot, but he was able to find one and get it delivered within an hour (there are lots of dealers in my area)...

 

[medhat]

While I like the new Maxima, it seems quite a bit smaller, so if you haul adults around with any frequency I'd go with the Genesis. I prefer the ride on my Genesis (09, suspension and all, wouldn't trade it for anything) over my old ES Lexus. I imagine the Maxima is as sporting (i.e. firm), so that's entirely your preference. The Genesis leans more toward luxury, the Maxima towards sportiness. My personal opinion is that the Genesis design will age a little more gracefully than the current Maxima (although I do like it).