Pros and cons of buying a Genesis

[dg_moore]

Well, if appearances or perceptions of wealth are important, the Hyundai brand may not project "I have arrived."...

Wealth, shmealth - next time you drive past a junk yard take a good look. That's where your car, and everybody else's car, will wind up eventually. Not at all unlike a cemetery, come to think of it.

 

[Roikins]

Yesterday I login to the Hyundai tech website,you have to pay subscription ,one week costs 20$,there was a huge list of how to fix every issue and problem that might occur in electronics, display,Bluetooth , audio,and on and on,I don't say that everybody will or had them,but the list was very big,like 10 web pages ,with around 20 faults in every page.
I have brand new 2015 Genny Ultimate for over a month, can't complain about anything ,I love this car ,I agree that it's too much nanny controlled , I think if those settings would be off,the car would be much powerful and funnier to drive,after disabling those traction and stability control I was able to do a very little wheel spin on slick road,and as soon the car started to go sideways ,those nannies somehow kicked in right away. I know it's not sports car,but sometimes we want to have a little fun. Other than that the car is awesome.

 

[Roikins]

Forgot to mention that also me too don't like those silly yellow DRL ,and the LED's only is on with the parking light or nighttime lights.
BTW,does anyone know if I install fog lights on 3.8 model and do a wiring for them,does it voids the warranty?

 

[Roikins]

Because I am doing this weekend that,and going to change that the LED's will stay on with DRL

 

[J_J_Okocha]

Wish I would have gotten the 2012 model with the newer suspension but other than that not I enjoy riding in it. I've had the car for about 4 months now. I have the 2011 version.

 

[Roikins]

- Steering is a bit numb
- seats are not very bolstering
- Premium and Technology package electronics are unreliable and expensive to fix
- Base radio is strangely void of modern technologies (though the speakers still sound great)
- Very little aftermarket support
- Headlights dim with acceleration and brighten once you let off the go peddle
- Electronic nannies are always lurking, even when you think you've turned them off
- Accent lights are not Daytime Running Lights and can't be used as so.
-DRLs look silly
- Pre 2012 models are looking a bit dated, not bad, but dated.
- Very little interior storage
- rear wheel drive only
- Back seats don't fold down for some reason. Nothing but a trunk pass-through that will be useful if you often find yourself transporting sticks or yard rakes.
- No Luxury dealerships, you are buying a Hyundai so you have to go to Hyundai dealerships.


As you can see, the list of things that I don't like about the car are pretty nit-picky, no matter what car you choose you will always have a list of things that aren't optimal.

But for about 20K you could have a 333 hp Hyundai that will get puzzling looks for days or a Camary like the one your high school math teacher drove.
Decision was simple for me.

Regarding the headlights dim on acceleration , I saw in the tech manual that Genesis has a automatic light leveling sensor, for example if you have 3 girls on your back seat , that the sensor lover the lights may be when you accelerate little harder the sensors can't react that fast

 

[zielritter]

Regarding the headlights dim on acceleration , I saw in the tech manual that Genesis has a automatic light leveling sensor, for example if you have 3 girls on your back seat , that the sensor lover the lights may be when you accelerate little harder the sensors can't react that fast

I frequently have 3 girls in my backseat. They are of the canine variety, however.

I'm pretty observant when it comes to picking up on the idiosyncrasies of my car. I notice no dimming in my lights, even in the halogens before switching to HID. This is while running an aftermarket sub as well.

I would have your alternator checked for free at an AutoZone just to make sure. There's the potential that your alternator isn't keeping up with the electrical load - although I would think your symptoms would be reversed, brightening on acceleration/dimming when letting off as alternator is spun up or slowed down.

Another thought is that your acceleration is jarring some ground loose.

 

[DRS]

I appreciate the feedback that has been given. I have no illusions about this being a luxury car. But every car model has its pros and cons and some have more bugs than others. I figured this would be a good place for some feedback.

You will love one. Buy one and enjoy.

 

[Roikins]

I frequently have 3 girls in my backseat. They are of the canine variety, however.



I'm pretty observant when it comes to picking up on the idiosyncrasies of my car. I notice no dimming in my lights, even in the halogens before switching to HID. This is while running an aftermarket sub as well.



I would have your alternator checked for free at an AutoZone just to make sure. There's the potential that your alternator isn't keeping up with the electrical load - although I would think your symptoms would be reversed, brightening on acceleration/dimming when letting off as alternator is spun up or slowed down.



Another thought is that your acceleration is jarring some ground loose.

Lucky you regarding the ladies on back seat
It's possible that it is the reason what you explained , but it's not for my car, I responded Buford T Justice" , he complained about it

 

[MRM]

If I decide to get one, it would be the 3.8 or the 4.6. Both seem to get about the same mileage.

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[GJEMD]

If I decide to get one, it would be the 3.8 or the 4.6. Both seem to get about the same mileage.

I recently replaced my 2010 4.6 with a 2014 3.8 premium. I must say the 2014 is a Superior automobile in many ways. I can say 50 less HP is not an issue as I had thought. Overall the 2014 3.8 is much more balanced auto than my 2010. The 3.8 seems to be a perfect match for the 8 speed the way it currently is programmed. I drove a 2012 4.6 8 speed and did not like it. I drive a 280 mile round trip twice a month 1/2 interstate 1/2 2 lane highway. The 3.8 consistently uses about 20% less fuel on the trip.

The final 1st Gen Genesis could not be better.

 

[ppg677]

Newbie here. Been looking hard at the Genesis sedan. I know most of these come loaded and a person can get a lot of car for the money. But my question is what are some of the major cons or issues with these cars? I would appreciate some feedback. Thanks.

Pro: you get 80% of a BMW 5-series for half the price

Cons: you are missing 20% of a BMW 5-series.

I got my brand new 2013 3.8 Genesis base a couple months ago for $24,500 (everything but sales tax).

So far I noticed that yes, the throttle response can be a bit dull. I wish it had a "sport mode". The driver's leather seat is stretching out after only 1200 miles (common issue...dealer is going to replace mine but I suspect it won't help).

But for $24,500, I'm not complaining so long as the car lasts me a decade and doesn't cost an arm/leg in repairs. The ride is quiet/smooth and luxurious. The car looks beautiful. Put the pedal to the metal and she flies (perhaps after a second delay though

 

[amartz]

So far I noticed that yes, the throttle response can be a bit dull. I wish it had a "sport mode".... Put the pedal to the metal and she flies (perhaps after a second delay though

Check out http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=13828

 

[MRM]

Bumping up the thread for an update.

I wound up buying an '06 Lexus IS a few months ago. Nice car, but too small. Will be looking to sell soon. As of now, I'm considering the Genesis or the Azera. I will drive both once I have the Lexus sold and determine which one I like better.

 

[FastDEW1]

To the OP:

I am able to buy pretty much any car I want. I have a bit of a collection going, but use the Genesis as my daily driver. I drive 160 miles per day round trip to my office and I like to be comfortable. So I enjoy large sedans. Did the SUV thing for 10 years and went back to large sedans. I have owned BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Chrysler, etc, etc. But now I am driving a Genesis. Just because I can buy what I want, I hate to spend money I do not need to spend. I find the BMW just over priced for what you get (expect for my Z Roadster, I love that thing!!) and I think Lexus is just not for me, although I can't exactly say why, just doesn't feel right. My wife has an Infinity and she loves it, but I am more car guy and she is more shoe girl. lol.

Anyway - I had a 2011 Genesis 4.6 that I purchased because I wanted to try the Genesis out. The car was super reliable and I never had any issues with the Nav. In fact the Lexicon system is flat out fantastic sounding. I put 46,000 miles on the car and had zero trouble with it (I am not an easy driver either). But the ride was just too firm rough for me, so I let it go. Then I decided I wanted to really spoil myself and I purchased a brand new 2014 S550. The S-Class was new for 2014 and it is sweet for all of the electronics, the ride and handling, the awesome navi screen, etc. The S had a wonderful ride and tons of twin turbo V8 power. BUT, the damn thing sucked for reliability. In 16,000 miles I had it in the dealer 9 times! Brakes, transmission, turbo, drivers seat, etc, etc, etc. For a $100K+ car, I learned to hate the thing.

My business partner has a 2014 Equus Ultimate. It has been absolutely reliable and I think nearly as good as my S was for far less $$. So I went off to buy an Equus. But decided to go back to the Genesis and found a left over 2014 R-Spec that I scored an amazing deal on. The R-Spec ride is much more controlled than the 2011 was and it is a great car. I have had it 3 weeks now and have 3,900 miles on it already. The car has tons of power, although I miss the low torque of the S - The 5.0 really winds and with the 8 speed it moves out at any speed. The Lexicon is 90% of what the Bermester was in the Benz. The steering is a little numb, but still solid and excellent directional control. The car is very tight. Love it.

For cons I would say -
1) Brand cache (I don't care but some might)
2) No cooling for the passenger seat
3) Wish the folding mirrors were automatic instead of on a button I need to press
4) Still a little too firm on rough roads, but great otherwise
5) In the 2011 the programing of the Technology system was a little strange and no bluetooth . This has been solved in the 2014 (I think 2013 also).
6) No paddle shifters

The car overall is very tight and reliable from my experience.

 

[ComputerBudda]

I love my 2010. Best car I've very owned. Depends on what you are looking for. This is luxury on a budget especially if you get a 2-3 year old one. If you want a performance luxury sedan, get a BMW or Audi. If you want to impress, buy a MB.

 

[MIKES3]

Most of you are a little older than me. With that said I would consider this car a well loaded vehicle with respectable amount of power. Luxury? I would say so



I have the base version of the 2013 Genesis V6. It has 28k miles on it. The sound of the car under moderate load is incredible. It has a nice rumble to it for a V6. (curious to hear magnaflow or flowmasters)
Very different sound than my 04 Grand Prix GTP

I have the 7 speaker radio. Non-tech package. Its not loud enough for me. Needs more amplification. Speakers seem to sound good for stock.

The gas mileage doesnt seem to bad. I average about 24 miles per gallon. Not bad for a 4000lb car

I have 17" tires with 225 wide. I would prefer at least 235-245 wide for better traction on dry roads. However, the 225s are great in the snow

As long as this car is reliable I love it. I dont have all the bells & whistles so I'm hoping for less electric issues.

 

[stogge]

I came out of a 2014 Infiniti Q50s, and I have not looked back once. Really love this car, and I think that I will keep it for a while, which is a real feat for me!

 

[sluggo]

I've got 16,500 on my 2013 3.8 Premium. Bought it for the crap commute I currently endure (55 miles r/t of stop and go). It never complains and it's been the only thing between me and losing my mind. Nice, quiet, serene interior with enough comforts to make the miles tolerable. If that's all the car did for me, it would be money well spent.

Other things I've learned to like about the car:
- I don't have to apologize about lack of space to those in the back when there's four people in the car.
- The sound system is more than I'd hoped for.
- It's not a car that people lust after. Sorry if that sounds like a negative, but it's true. For those of us who would prefer to spend money elsewhere, this turns out to be a plus, as it keeps the initial price down. In addition, I'm not worried about someone stealing it. Seriously, if I owned an A7 here in San Jose, I don't know if I would sleep as well as I do. Flash draws attention.
- Big booty. Four sets of clubs with no problem.
- I've eaten maybe $6k in depreciation so far. That A7? About $30k. I'm not saying the Genesis is built to the same standard as the A7, but if I'm going to buy one car that serves as both a daily driver on a bad commute, and also does weekend drives from time to time, the A7 would be a bad economic choice.
- I really love giving car snobs and other Hyundai-haters rides. I generally just keep my mouth shut and let them talk about their own cars. It's funny how people get really defensive about their own decisions after a few minutes in the Genesis.

Cons:
- Not much good to say about the transmission, except for the warranty. It's a difficult thing to live with at times, like getting used to a horse with an odd gait. Walks when you want it to trot, that sort of thing.
- Not crazy about blue everything on the dash and controls. Blue is the worst possible color choice for night driving, as the human eye is very insensitive to that color. The old BMW orange/red should be standard - much easier to see at any time, day or night.
- The B pillar intrudes on my shoulder space.

Finally, the car was just such a ridiculous bargain that's it's hard to quibble about this and that. A dealer price of $31.4k and $180 for aftermarket HIDs (the only thing I really wanted from the tech package) makes it less than half the price of the A7 and (according to CR) will be safer, more reliable, and cheaper to drive and repair.

So if you're thinking about buying a Genesis, forget about comparing it to German or premium Japanese cars. I think the car that comes closest to the Genesis in terms of the value proposition (what you pay compared to what you get) is the new Chevy Impala. If you haven't driven one, you should drop in and see if you can get a test drive. They're pretty good.

 

[Jon Jackson]

Just about everything that needs to be said has been said but....

coming from a Mercedes E500 I found it an easy transition and I did not think I would.

Pros: The sound system...holy crap...wow...17 speakers...650 watts....you don't need to tweak it at all.

429 HP engine...duh...that did it for me right there lol.

My car is badged, in two months or so, only one person knew what kind of car it was, That's really cool.

Plenty of bells and whistles....cool things like the door handle area lighting up at night...the Genny door badge lights up...self leveling head lights....


The cons: NANNY state of a car..lol....hesitation when you don't want it....not the best ride on bad roads but of course low profile tires so...yeah....

For myself, I kinda wanted a new Merc, but the price man...PLUS the cost to fix a Merc will KILL you...

It's a good car, fun to drive, fun to blow a Mustang etc away and leave them wondering what car just beat them.