Question for 5.0 owners

[Seattle Genesis]

I went from a 2012 R-Spec black on black to the 2015 Black on Ivory. A couple notes:

First the 2015 is heavier, and it was immediately noticeably slower on the starting line WOT. Its not the same car for sure. I love my 2012, sold it to a good friend who is enjoying it! We did line them up side by side and 2012 is 1-2 car lengths faster to 60mph, but it should be its lighter.

Second however is the quality of the 2015 is night and day over the 2012 IMO. Quietness, smooth ride, back seat isn't like sitting on a bench and feeling every bump. My kids love the ride and say its much better. The leather is smooth and has a pillow feel to it. Technology, LOL enough said...

What do i like over the 3.8. Wider back tires, looks nice!, exhaust tips, and fog lights. Rear heat and steering would have been nice but i live in the south so lets be real, don't need it.

Sweet combo. That's the color combo I wanted but just couldn't wait another minute form them to get here. Not even sure they would get here. Glad I got the black on black. No regrets. Can you post pics of your car so I know what I missed out on?

 

[ferrethouse]

even if all logic (reduced HP and increased weight) suggests that would be very difficult to achieve

I don't think it is faster but peak horsepower can be misleading. They broadened out the torque curve.

 

[Mark_888]

I don't think it is faster but peak horsepower can be misleading. They broadened out the torque curve.

I understand what they did, but as mentioned above "2012 is 1-2 car lengths faster to 60 mph."

 

[Midnightsun]

I understand what they did, but as mentioned above "2012 is 1-2 car lengths faster to 60 mph."

So in real life they are pretty close. I believe the 2015 will improve just like mileage improves as things break in and loosen up a little. Maybe try again in 6 months to really see the difference.

Let's assume it's 1 car length, really not bad at all as this probably translates to .2 seconds if that in real world 0-60 times. One thing for sure is the drivability with the increase torque has definately improved and is very noticeable and this is all that really matter at the end of the day unless you are drag racing and if you are you bought the wrong car. This would be more appropriate.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-video

This car is not a drag car nor is the Gen 1, they are luxury cars with power on demand. Just like Rolls and Bentley, they all have mega motors to get up and go effortlessly, Hyundai offers a great equivalent for the price.

 

[Mark_888]

So in real life they are pretty close. I believe the 2015 will improve just like mileage improves as things break in and loosen up a little. Maybe try again in 6 months to really see the difference.

Let's assume it's 1 car length, really not bad at all as this probably translates to .2 seconds if that in real world 0-60 times.

No, let's assume 1.5 car lengths, since that was probably the average of multiple runs (to eliminate driver variation). If you take the best driver response on the 2015 and the worst from the R-Spec, then it would be 1 car length, but that is not fair.

Car and Driver "squeezed" 5.1 sec on 0-60 from a new R-Spec (I assume squeezed means multiple tries and 5.1 was the best). So that would make the 2015 5.0 V8 about 5.4 sec on 0-60. A far cry from the 4.75 claimed by someone, but as I said, I don't think a lot of 0-60 times reported are based on actual tests, just speculation.

 

[ksoze]

Can anyone confirm if Siri Eyes Free is accessible via Bluetooth on the iPhone? I am trying to figure out what functions works if the iPhone is NOT tethered in the car through USB.

 

[ckon]

Can anyone confirm if Siri Eyes Free is accessible via Bluetooth on the iPhone? I am trying to figure out what functions works if the iPhone is NOT tethered in the car through USB.

Yes, it is.

 

[ksoze]

Yes, it is.

Thanks!

 

[Onuriss]

Does the 5.0 RWD Ultimate have the headlight washers?

 

[ckon]

Does the 5.0 RWD Ultimate have the headlight washers?

AFAIK, only AWD models have them.

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[bnajack]

No, let's assume 1.5 car lengths, since that was probably the average of multiple runs (to eliminate driver variation). If you take the best driver response on the 2015 and the worst from the R-Spec, then it would be 1 car length, but that is not fair.

Car and Driver "squeezed" 5.1 sec on 0-60 from a new R-Spec (I assume squeezed means multiple tries and 5.1 was the best). So that would make the 2015 5.0 V8 about 5.4 sec on 0-60. A far cry from the 4.75 claimed by someone, but as I said, I don't think a lot of 0-60 times reported are based on actual tests, just speculation.

Car & Driver did a nice review of the 5.0 (and Sonata) in last month's print issue (New Car Edition) comparing it favorably in concept to the original Lexus LS. IIRC, their 0-60 time was 5.0 seconds. I will confirm when I get home. For some reason, the review is only in print and not on their website.

 

[Mark_888]

Car & Driver did a nice review of the 5.0 (and Sonata) in last month's print issue (New Car Edition) comparing it favorably in concept to the original Lexus LS. IIRC, their 0-60 time was 5.0 seconds. I will confirm when I get home. For some reason, the review is only in print and not on their website.

As noted above, the 2015 Genesis V8 RWD is 1-2 car lengths slower than 2012+ R-spec.

 

[bnajack]

As noted above, the 2015 Genesis V8 RWD is 1-2 car lengths slower than 2012+ R-spec.

I did note above and is the reason I made the post. I will confirm tonight when I get home and confirm the actual 0-60 time tested by Car & Driver on a 2015 5.0 in their latest issue. It is what it is.

 

[bnajack]

I did note above and is the reason I made the post. I will confirm tonight when I get home and confirm the actual 0-60 time tested by Car & Driver on a 2015 5.0 in their latest issue. It is what it is.

Ok. From the September 2014 issue of Car & Driver test of 2014 Hyundai Genesis 5.0:

0-60- 5.0 sec
0-100- 12.3 sec
0-140- 27.4 sec
Rolling Start 5-60- 5.6 sec
1/4 mile- 13.6 sec @ 105 mph
Top Speed (Governor Limited)- 145 mph
Braking, 70-0- 167 ft.
Roadholding- 0.86G
EPA City/Hwy- 15/23 MPG
C/D Observed- 19 MPG

If you can still find the magazine, it is worth buying. The article is very complimentary on the Genesis.

Now, all that said, I thought the R-Spec was a 4.8ish 0-60 car.

 

[Gunkk]

How is the rolling start (5-60, 5.6 sec) slower than a standing start (0-60, 5.0 sec)?

And that article is about the 2015, not 2014 Genesis???

2012 R-spec C&D review including comments on the 2009 4.6 (aka long-termer) ref: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hyundai-genesis-r-spec-50-sedan-test-review

Compared with our 100,000-mile Genesis V-8 long-termer—it used the smaller 375-horse, 4.6-liter Tau, which is still on offer—the 4234-pound R-Spec carries 115 more pounds. The newer model was slightly quicker in a straight line: We squeezed a 5.1-second 0-to-60 time from the R-Spec and covered the quarter in 13.7 seconds at 103 mph. Our long-termer’s initial test numbers read 5.3 and 13.8 at 104. The chassis tweaks and sticky, optional Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position tires increased lateral grip from 0.84 g to 0.87. The rubber did nothing to improve the 70-to-0-mph braking figure; both the long-termer and this car posted 164-foot efforts.

 

[GenesisCaptain]

How is the rolling start (5-60, 5.6 sec) slower than a standing start (0-60, 5.0 sec)?

Rolling start is always slower because there is no opportunity for engine and wheel spin-up. They do the rolling start to demonstrate low-end torque.

 

[Aquineas]

So does anyone know how many miles the 2015 Genesis had on it when aweime001 did his run?

 

[bnajack]

The test was for 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate. Sorry, i had a stupid attack!

 

[drpearso]

If you got into a 2015 5.0 you would finally understand.

Speaking of differences between gen 1 & 2. The AC is fantastic compared to the mediocre system in gen 1 and will freeze you out. The cooled seats actually got my family jewels over chilled on the way back from work wearing a pair of jeans so it is really working well. The cabin is so much more quiet it stands out considerably, amazing piece of work. Suspension is improved considerably as well as the overall handling and ride in general. In fact there is not one thing I have found yet that I preferred in the Gen1, tip of the hat to Hyundai for a major achievement.

5.0 vs 3.8? You have to drive the 5.0 in order to see how different it is from the 3.8 V6. I love the 5.0 V8 Ultimate. I test drove several 3.8's and kept a loaner 3.8 to drive it for 5 hours to make sure the seat worked for me. The 3.8 is great, but there is a very nice difference between the 5.0 V8 and the 3.8 V6. I guess you have to be a motor person to appreciate the extra power in the 5.0 V8. I had to trade my new 2013 Genesis Rspec that was less than a year old and only had 8k miles on it in order to get in the 2015 with the new seats that my spine requires. The 2013 Rspec was a great car, but the seats were vastly inferior to the 2015's seats. The 2015 Genesis Ultimate will change Hyundai Motors to a level above the 5 series BMW IMHO. Regards

The only thing I would like to have on the 2015 Gen (that was on the 2013 Genesis Rspec) is to have the side-door storage panels that opened up. That was a great idea on the previous Generation Genesis, and I wish it was on the 2015. Regardless, the 2015 5.0 Ultimate is a great, fun, awesome looking, great riding, quiet, smooth machine.

My brother leased (3 year lease) a New Q50 Infinity 4 door in Jan 2014. But after riding with me for 5 hours in my new 2015 5.0 Ultimate to a football game, he went in to get a new 2015 Genesis. He took at least a $10k hit on Infinity lease deal, but he wanted the Genesis due to how much better of a car it is than the Infinity Q50. He has owned or leased several previous Infinities over the past years, as well as his wife, but there is no comparison between a Q50 and a 2015 Genesis. He has never owned a Hyundai until now. Regards

 

[Aquineas]

5.0 vs 3.8? You have to drive the 5.0 in order to see how different it is from the 3.8 V6. I love the 5.0 V8 Ultimate. I test drove several 3.8's and kept a loaner 3.8 to drive it for 5 hours to make sure the seat worked for me. The 3.8 is great, but there is a very nice difference between the 5.0 V8 and the 3.8 V6. I guess you have to be a motor person to appreciate the extra power in the 5.0 V8. I had to trade my new 2013 Genesis Rspec that was less than a year old and only had 8k miles on it in order to get in the 2015 with the new seats that my spine requires. The 2013 Rspec was a great car, but the seats were vastly inferior to the 2015's seats. The 2015 Genesis Ultimate will change Hyundai Motors to a level above the 5 series BMW IMHO. Regards

The only thing I would like to have on the 2015 Gen (that was on the 2013 Genesis Rspec) is to have the side-door storage panels that opened up. That was a great idea on the previous Generation Genesis, and I wish it was on the 2015. Regardless, the 2015 5.0 Ultimate is a great, fun, awesome looking, great riding, quiet, smooth machine.

My brother leased (3 year lease) a New Q50 Infinity 4 door in Jan 2014. But after riding with me for 5 hours in my new 2015 5.0 Ultimate to a football game, he went in to get a new 2015 Genesis. He took at least a $10k hit on Infinity lease deal, but he wanted the Genesis due to how much better of a car it is than the Infinity Q50. He has owned or leased several previous Infinities over the past years, as well as his wife, but there is no comparison between a Q50 and a 2015 Genesis. He has never owned a Hyundai until now. Regards

You forgot an important portion of your post: which game?