Replacement tires for 2015 Genesis 3.8 AWD Sedan?

[BenGenesis]

I replaced the original Michelins (at 23K miles they were shot) with Cooper Zeon RS3G1 and while I've been very happy with the tires, they need to be replaced (I'm now at 43K miles). I got about 21K miles out them (rotated at each oil change, alignment, etc). My trusted mechanic said "W" rated tires are soft compound and will not last longer regardless of the treadwear rating (these Coopers are rated for 45,000 miles). Has anyone found a high quality, nice riding, all season W rated tire that lasts longer? I don't want cheap, off brand tires made in China.

 

[silberma]

W tires are a waste of money on the Genesis. V tires rated for 149 MPH are more than adequate. Go to tire rack or consumers reports to figure what tires are best for you.

 

[BenGenesis]

The W rating is specified by Hyundai. Most tire shops will only replace with the specified tire rating from the manufacturer.

 

[Whitey]

When I buy tires, they put on what I tell them to. As your mechanic stated, the W-rating is a softer compound tire. If you want a longer-lasting tire, you may wish to try a higher-rated tire with a harder compound that won't wear as quickly. Mind you, ride comfort and noise level are just some factors to research. Maybe others out here can comment on what their experiences are relating to those factors and others.

I'm also looking since the 2nd owner of my newly purchased put BFG Advantages last year and they are a bit noisy, so I'm weighing options as well.

 

[silberma]

My 2017 G80 AWD came with Michelin M&S tires with a rating of 96V which are rated for 149+MPH. The W rating is good for 168MPH and came standard on my BMW because it can go faster than 149MPH. There is no way a 3.8 liter G80 can go that fast.
PS Higher rated tires may have softer rubber to give them better grip and cornering which may make them shorted lived.

 

[Whitey]

True Silberma. I've had many Z-Rated Tires on past BMW's which chewed through them like candy. Yet on a prior Jag, my lower rated W's ran much longer than a set of Z's. Of course, driving conditions and style also come into play, yet I doubt any of us drive our Genny's "hard".

How are your Michelin's noise-wise? I'm looking for a tire that will be webby, webby quiet for when I'm hunting wabbits.

 

[silberma]

The Michelin Primacy are very quite tires. Had them on other cars (Honda Accord) as well and am very pleased

 

[BenGenesis]

As a follow up to my post, I called Hyundai consumer affairs and they said we can replace the tires without regard to the speed rating. While it indicates the tire size, the placard on the door jam does not specify a speed rating. They only put "W" rated tires on from the factory as the car rides smoother with the softer compound. They said to expect a firmer ride with a non W rated tire but improved winter traction and much longer wear is expected. Opens up a lot of great options. I think I''ll be going with the Cooper CS5 as I've had them on several prior cars with great results.

 

[Whitey]

Glad you've decided on a route to take, Ben. It appears they're quite a highly-rated tire based on a quick web search. I'll be curious to hear back how quiet they ride after you've put them on. On my short list, the Michelin Primacy's mentioned above by Silberma is recommended as one of the quietest tires along with the Bridgestone Serenity Pluses, neither of which I've had but every car handles tires differently. Keep me posted on how it goes.

 

[Philip2]

I hate to rock the boat here but my used 2015 came with new Pantera A/S tires. These are apparently a cheap Chinese brand and actually cost less than one half a Michelin.

The ride has been amazingly smooth and quiet and handling, for old fart like me, is adequate.

Time to get new tires and I went to my very trusted tire man. He tells me Michelins are good but overpriced and your pay for the name, like I did with my last car which was a Mercedes. He told me Michelin makes a second label, which I forgot the name of, which is pretty good..

I had a discussion with him over the phone as to whether my very enjoyable/ quiet ride is due to the car itself or the tires. He says he will take the car out and let me know which is the case.

Anyway has anyone else gone with Panteras? I really wonder if more expensive tires would be quieter or give a smoother ride.

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[BenGenesis]

When I bought my car CPO, the dealer installed chinese tires. One week later, I replaced them after blowing two out on the road (soft sidewalls). I went to Coopers and I never had that problem but they only lasted 23K miles. I have just installed Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ and got them for less than $800 installed at BJ's (they had a great coupon). So far, I'm happy with them. Quiet, smooth ride, great in the rain. So were the Cooper Zeons. I think the low cost, off brand, chinese tires are better suited for smaller, lighter cars. This is a large, heavy car.

 

[G-639630]

Saving money on tires by buying non brand names is a bad idea. Tires are the only thing between you and the road. In addition to long life you need low noise good braking, resistance to hydroplanning and good traction. Good luck finding these qualities on a cheap tire. I buy Michelin brands and never regret it

 

[nellie1289]

fyi when i had my 2016 genesis the original Michelins lasted 23k miles, i turned them in on michelin's 45k warranty, got pro rated roughly 50%, and they put the same tire back on with a 45,000 mile warranty. I turned the car in on lease at 33k miles, the tires were doing fine, but i didnt really care. either way i had a 'warranty' for 45k miles and if they burned off again, i would have a pro rate again. this was my strategy. Ps i never really drove the car hard.

 

[Whitey]

When I purchased my '16 a month ago, I saw it had Nexen 5000's and first thought was "these will be getting replaced soon", but they've surprised me and are quieter than the newer BFG Advantage's that were on my traded-in '15 from the prior owner.

My imminent switch to 20's has me taking notes out here and doing homework to figure out what will keep my 'Blue Angel's' ride as smooth as possible.

I've had many different tires over the years from the top (Michelin) to the bottom (Clear) and just about everything in between (Bridgestone, Good Year, Pirelli, Continental, Yokohama, Falken, Sumitomo, Federal, Lizetti, etc.) and I can say some of the off brands were better than the name brands. If I'm not mistaken, I believe almost all have manufacturing plants in China now as well. They're not all bad, just have to do your research and know what you are buying.

And Philip, Michelin owns BFG and Uniroyal now as well as a few others.

 

[JerryK73]

Continental DWS06 is what I replaced the Michelins with. Been very happy with them. Low to virtually no noise, great grip in dry and rain. Not sure how good they are in the snow since we haven't had much in Jersey/Maryland since I put them on about a year ago.

 

[crizzlec]

Loved the DWS06’s I had on my Q5.

That’s what I’ll be putting on the Genesis this fall. Haven’t loved the Primacy’s.

 

[skipgen]

My car came with Bridgestone RE970's - which I'm happy with.

 

[Jamesalanb]

I hate to rock the boat here but my used 2015 came with new Pantera A/S tires. These are apparently a cheap Chinese brand and actually cost less than one half a Michelin.

The ride has been amazingly smooth and quiet and handling, for old fart like me, is adequate.

Time to get new tires and I went to my very trusted tire man. He tells me Michelins are good but overpriced and your pay for the name, like I did with my last car which was a Mercedes. He told me Michelin makes a second label, which I forgot the name of, which is pretty good..

I had a discussion with him over the phone as to whether my very enjoyable/ quiet ride is due to the car itself or the tires. He says he will take the car out and let me know which is the case.

Anyway has anyone else gone with Panteras? I really wonder if more expensive tires would be quieter or give a smoother ride.

As a former tire store manager - that's just a selling ploy to get you to buy the cheaper tires they have there...

 

[need4spd]

fyi when i had my 2016 genesis the original Michelins lasted 23k miles, i turned them in on michelin's 45k warranty, got pro rated roughly 50%, and they put the same tire back on with a 45,000 mile warranty. I turned the car in on lease at 33k miles, the tires were doing fine, but i didnt really care. either way i had a 'warranty' for 45k miles and if they burned off again, i would have a pro rate again. this was my strategy. Ps i never really drove the car hard.

+1 I did the same thing, 21k on the clock, and Michelin prorated the OEM tires based on the tire tread warranty.

People, you need to contact Michelin directly and work with a Michelin tire dealer, they will prorate and put on any Michelin or BF Goodrich tire you want on the car (BF is owned by Michelin)

 

[STL_Genesis]

I picked up a CPO 2016 3.8 AWD back in Feb. The car came with Continental DWS06, they looked like new rubber at the time. So far (about 4,000 miles), i have been really happy with them ... great ride quality, quite, and they seem to be holding up well. I don't drive all that hard so I can't comment on aggressive driving performance. If I was replacing tires today, I would put this same tire on the car.