Rigid Collars installed on my G2!

[dareckibmw]

It's weird, they don't post the phone number on their website and/or facebook page. I remember, Tomi emailed me once with his cell.# but I don't have it anymore.

Msg. them on FB https://www.facebook.com/pg/atqservice/about/?ref=page_internal

 

[chris41]

Looks like this summer I'll be driving to Niagara Falls, Canada for a family vacation. Then I'll sneak off to Cambridge and have the collars installed!!

 

[lobsenza]

I would love a phone number too. I would like to call prior to placing my order.

Are we meeting on 2/24 in Austin?

 

[Aquineas]

Austin Meet switched to the 26th at 11:00am so the Houston dude could make it.

 

[lobsenza]

I will be there!!!

 

[Mladen5375]

I started a thread a few weeks ago looking for a spot to have my rigid collars from ATQ Performance Parts installed. Finally got them installed and a four wheel alignment done and all I can say is WOW! I've read the thread the G1 guys have on their rigid collars and thought some of that had to be stretches of the the truth. I mean, how can 10 little collars that cost less than $150 really have that much of an impact on ride quality, steering feel, and overall tighter feeling?

I honestly can't describe how much tighter the car feels. On freeway onramps the car no longer compresses to one side. It just stays solidly planted, daring you to add more speed. Upon hard braking, the nose doesn't dip down. When you accelerate hard, the back end doesn't dip (as much). When you drive over bumps, the body doesn't bounce up and down. This to me was the most beneficial pro since I'm lowered. With a lowered car, my stock shocks and struts are constantly slightly compressed so before the collars, undulations would be transmitted through the suspension to the body, creating a somewhat bouncy ride. Now, the body doesn't move up and down at all as all the work is done by the suspension. I honestly have no idea how or why that is, no matter how many times I watch the Spoon rigid collar video. It just doesn't make sense to me how a piece that stops horizontal motion affects vertical movement. All I know is I got them, they're installed, and now my 4500 lb cruise ship feels like a lightweight little sports car.

Maybe you guys can chime in and tell me how much of that is placebo. Or, if you live near me in SoCal, hit me up and take it for a test drive and tell me I'm imagining things. If not, tell me how to describe it better because I honestly don't know how to.

I bought my collars at ATQ Performance Parts in Canada. They're not listed as an actual kit on the website, but I contacted them and dealt with the owner, Tomi Varga. He sent me 10 collars in the sizes needed with a diagram as to where they go.

The actual hardest part was finding a shop who knew how and where to install them. For you guys in SoCal, I ended up going with Khartunerz in Murrieta. I initially went to Concept 3 in Brea but he didn't know where to install them but charged me labor anyway since he had to put the car on the lift and inspect it. I had to pay labor again at Khartunerz so I'm just trying to save you guys some money so you don't have to pay twice.

FYI: I have no affiliation with ATQ, Khartunerz, or Concept 3.

Is there anyway you can post that diagram of where they go? I'm thinking about doing the same and I'd like to see which bolt they go to.

Thanks

 

[celltech]

Is there anyway you can post that diagram of where they go? I'm thinking about doing the same and I'd like to see which bolt they go to.

Thanks

I posted some pics a few pages back showing them, although there is no car sized pic with arrows pointing them out. I think you can see 2 of them in the rear without pulling any panels off. But everything else is hidden by them. But honestly, once you pull the panels off it becomes almost self evident. You have 8 huge bolts sitting at the corners of the subframes. That "mechanic" at Concept 3 must not be too bright.

 

[redandblackpack]

Do these impact the softness/comfort of the ride? Is it worth doing for those of us still on stock suspension/wheels?

 

[celltech]

I am totally stock and it didn't hurt the ride one bit. If anything it makes it less jiggly on rough roads. And for me the on center dead spot is gone...

 

[C-Hawk]

Hello fellow Genesis owners I've been thinking of adding ridget collars to my 2011 4.6 sedan after reading what others have stated about them so I decided to ask my local mechanic if he could do the application and he told me it would cause more noise and vibration, can anyone who has added them to their sedans advise if this was the case. Thank you.

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[amartz]

Nope. Not at all. If anything, because it all seems a more solid vehicle, there is less noise. Don't confuse what I just said with a more stiff/harsh ride, because that is *not* what these do.

 

[celltech]

I don't think mine made any difference for noise, better or worse. Getting rid of the crappy stock Conti tires sure helped cure some vibrations. The collars helped with on-center steering and when I hit a large or sharp bump. You just hear/feel one distinct "thwack" and not one with an aftershock or two.

 

[C-Hawk]

Thanks for the replies, I'm going to order mine right now

 

[RyanB]

So I just ordered a set but the instructions on line are for the 5.0 and I didn't see any listing for the 3.8 AWD. Is the set of six spacers all I need? At checkout they don't have any way to enter comments or to contact them to verify.

 

[celltech]

Hit up Tomi on their Facebook...he is pretty responsive.

 

[RyanB]

I did but all I got back was that the parts and install are the same for the 3.8 and 5.0 however from reading the installs in this discussion I thought the 5.0 only takes 6 and the 3.8 takes 10. I guess I will see what arrives.

 

[LarryJM]

I did but all I got back was that the parts and install are the same for the 3.8 and 5.0 however from reading the installs in this discussion I thought the 5.0 only takes 6 and the 3.8 takes 10. I guess I will see what arrives.

This is what is keeping me from ordering a set. It seems there is a real lack of process (no phone nr., unclear of what one should order, etc.) and that's a shame since IMO it's costing the Co. $$$ and lost sales.

Larry

 

[quanva]

I did but all I got back was that the parts and install are the same for the 3.8 and 5.0 however from reading the installs in this discussion I thought the 5.0 only takes 6 and the 3.8 takes 10. I guess I will see what arrives.

You guys are over thinking it, read about them here, ordered online and got them in 4 days.. hit up a random suspension shop in my area. showed them the instructions,parts and that it shouldnt take more than 90 mins ...


My AWD took 6 total,feels like a brand new car, very stable.. very german like..well worth the 260 total i spent..If your lowered this is a MUST

 

[mtriples]

Just got mine in the mail, having them installed soon!

 

[Grokster]

Just ordered a set of 8 Collars for my 2015 3.8 V6 RWD after trading e-mails with Tomi. I kept pushing for 10 Collars based on the OP's experience but Tomi was adamant that 8 was the most I would need.

Will see when I get to the install step.