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sell me lol

Well thats another point I didnt mention. Honestly if I told my story its too long. I really truly appreciate your guys opinion. I been back to work and actually have a nice back up plan with me when I got tax return I saved up and didnt touch it. My return was a little under 10k. I am honestly back up and running to normal. Yes I am still young and you can never be 100% with jobs. We moved over to a duplex I own amd rent went down about 300 buck. If I could save just about 200 to 300 in gas also I would be set. I have gone over my finances with my wife. We want a reliable car an a little more economical in gas. Not a car that I am afraid to drive on trips because of gas lol. I own a lexus gs400 also a v8 and I honestly am aware of cost repairs being expensive. All my young life I have owned a 3.5 acura rl three lexus a gs 300 a 400 and a es300. Also a Honda accord 01 so yea it might not have been an audi mercedes or bmw but I am farely aware of cost repairs. Expensive cars have fortunately/unfortunately been in my life starting with my grandparents and parents lol. I just want a car that yes having higher miles won't be breaking on me constantly. Toyota honda are very reliable cars but I want to try the Genesis.
You have owned a lot of cars for only being 23 years old. If you want to get a Genesis, how about a 3.8L V6 with a lot lower miles on it? It will likely be more reliable than the one you are looking at, and will save on gas compared to the V8.
 
I've been around almost 50 years longer than the OP and I continue to be bemused by these young guys who will sacrifice apparently anything to drive more car than they can afford. Years ago I had a typist - a single mom with two young children, barely holding things together, and unable to get child support from her ex, whose ego "forced him" have a new Camaro every year while his children went without necessities. You have to wonder about peoples' priorities.
 
To the comment above. U shouldn't make that judgement only because you saw someone prioritize cars over family. Let alone I'm 23 years old have never tasted beer alcohol or any drugs or cigarettes like the majority of the youth out now a days. My feet have never set foot inside a club or house party unless it's a family oriented party. I started working at a young age of 15 and I don't mean 10-15 hours a week I mean a full time to the point where I was making 6-8 hundred dollars every two weeks as a 16 year old. I am dedicated to working I am now a father of a one year old n husband to my girlfriend since the age of 16. She has been the only girl in my life and is now the mother of my loved baby boy. My priorities are set pretty well due to being raised by my great strict father. He has taught me to support my family first to bring food to the table every day to keep a ruff over our heads. I would never prioritize a car over family or anything no matter what. I have been married two years might not have a great budget control but my wife helps me with that lol. I may have own cars actually 9 cars in total 3 which my father payed for them but they where never brand new always used. Ever since then I worked hard for everything I own including a duplex home which i live in now. I am not in any way rich just a hard worker. Just cause someone is 4 decades older then me doesn't mean I don't qualify for nice things in life if it takes some 40 years to get the thing you have that's all up to you. You can have pretty much anything in this life if you set your mind to it. It is America lol. So I am proud to say I have worked n everything done legally to be where I'm at unfortunately I bought a car that was way to much of a gas eater n want to trade it is all.
 
Just cause someone is 4 decades older then me doesn't mean I don't qualify for nice things in life...

That's true. The fact that you can't afford them is what means you don't qualify for the nice things in life.

You can have pretty much anything in this life if you set your mind to it.
But you can't have things you can't afford.

Why don't you set your sights on something that you CAN afford and that will treat you right? You should be easily able to find a 2-3-year-old Hyundai Sonata with < 30,000 miles on it for $15K or so and a lot of the original warranty still on it. And it will get you a LOT better mileage than a Genesis.

And the money you save can go for other things like your kid's college someday, your rainy-day fund for the day that life decides to slap you upside the head (and take my word for it, life WILL slap you upside the head - no one escapes that), and the day that you can't work any more or don't want to work any more because 23 years old was forty years ago (you'll be AMAZED how fast that happens - take my word for it...). If you're living paycheck to paycheck now, what is your plan for how you're going to live when you're 63?

And please don't tell me "Social Security..."
 
Many years ago, I bought my first new car (the 67 Vette in my signature). Both my wife and I had good jobs. We paid that car off in the first year. I have never bought a car since that required making payments. Now at 71, I am very comfortably retired with no money worries. Except for homes (the interest is tax deductible), paying interest just isn't money smart.

As others have suggested, buy a 50,000 mile Accord, Camry, or Fusion.
 
I honestly couldnt drive a car an pay for something I dont like
 
I honestly couldnt drive a car an pay for something I dont like

Your 23 years are showing. When you are 40 you will get the points that have been made here. My son is 28 and he is beginning to get it. We all mature and become wiser with age. Maybe think about what you need in the long run vs the shiny object that excites you at the moment.
 
Thanks guys honestly you have made good points made me think about a few things. I honestly think I will still get a genesis I cant pass on it and ill see what they offer me for my qx
 
In 6 years you will look back and say "If I only knew then what I know now." I did. and every so many years it continues to multiply.

Based on your age and previous vehicles owned, you will not have the Genesis in 14 months. We can not force you to take our advice, but in the future you will get a healthy dose of "I told ya so."

Having a high HP twin turbo Z and going to a POS Chevy Aveo was a humbling experience. I had it for nearly 8 years, then leased a Sentra which was 10x the car the Aveo was. I rode that for the 39 months. Over those 135 months I spent on average $152.44/mo in car payments. I put another $150/mo away in savings for my next Z.

When my lease was up, I knew with having a child on the way a Z wasn't practical so I bought my Genesis as a hold me over and kept the savings untouched. Our opinion is that the Genesis is not a practical decision on your part. Did I mention my motor replacement for my genesis was between $11k and $12.5k? If you brick a genesis, you will be so far upside-down you will be forced to have it repo'd as a best-case-scenario.

You may be asking yourself, "why don't you just buy the Z too, you have the cash to buy one in pristine condition and extremely low mileage for a car that was built between 1990-1993 AND have $4-5K left for mods."

The simple answer is, and wisdom will confirm, because you just never know when bad shit is going to happen.
 
I honestly couldnt drive a car an pay for something I dont like


Well, I drove a clapped out 52 Chevy, a pretty well crapped out 55 Ford, a decent 57 Ford during my college years 1961-1965. I got married in 1966 and the wife continued to drive the 57 Ford. I bought a clapped out 1960 Ford wagon for $200 to drive to work. Saved enough money for a healthy down on the 67 Vette and, as I said before, it was paid off in 12 months.

After that, I drove a lot of nice, interesting cars (see my signature), because I could afford them due to not paying someone interest. And I bought a few basic cars for commuting rather than pile miles on the "interesting" ones.

Think long term (a couple years anyway), not short term.
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I honestly couldnt drive a car an pay for something I dont like

You are not going to "like" what happens to any car with over 100,000 miles and NO warranty coverage.
 
You are not going to "like" what happens to any car with over 100,000 miles and NO warranty coverage.

I don't think you can say "any" car. I have driven a Toyota, Mazda, Acura, BMW, Mercedes and Suburban to over 200,000 miles on each and with no major problems. I currently have 123,000 on my Genesis and it performs like new. Reliability many times depends on proper maintenance.
 
I don't think you can say "any" car. I have driven a Toyota, Mazda, Acura, BMW, Mercedes and Suburban to over 200,000 miles on each and with no major problems. I currently have 123,000 on my Genesis and it performs like new. Reliability many times depends on proper maintenance.

I think the key difference is that you put all the miles on. You probably did not purchase the cars with over 100,000 miles that some one you didn't know put them on and do not know how well it was maintained.
I agree with most here that a used car with less mileage is a safer bet and should be given serious consideration as opposed to a high mileage but great looking car.
Ultimately OP will have make his own choices and live with the consequences, good or bad. Good luck to you with whatever choice you make.
 
Situation Saturday I guess lol. Here is mine open to opinion n criticisms. I own a 2006 infiniti qx56 with 108300 miles on it. One of the finest luxury suvs out there. Now thing is its killing me on gas it gets 13 mpg city grandma driving it and 18 highway also driving as if I got loads of open glass in the car lol. My wife and I love the roomy interior looks of the car but its honestly killing the wallet. I put 250 $ if not more of gas a month. And thats being nice lol so I been car shopping and found a 2009 4.6 hyundai genesis. Price is well well below nada or kbb value but its because it has 112k miles on it. It is the premium genesis so it has the navigation with 17 speakers very well taken care of. One owner all the goodies but im nervous since ive never seen a hyundai be a reliable vehicle. I have done lots of reading and it seems as if hyundai stepped up its game when it hit the streets with the genesis in 08. Whats your guys opinions.

Why get the thirsty v8 if it is the gas that is killing you?

By all accounts, the v6 has plenty of power to propel the vehicle, and gets beter gas milage (no personal experience)

I purposely bought one with the fewest miles... and got the HPP 100K warranty... as I am terrified of the electronics taking a dump after a few years (not that there is a risk... but I have owed $$ a few BMW's outside of the warranty period...never again)

Around town - 16-18 MPG
Highway - 21-23 (have yet to do JUST a highway drive with a tak of fuel)

Mixed - 18-21

I fil up on Tuesday and Friday

Tues - Friday
My commute is 45 Miles each way, mostly highway (there are some access roads here and there, but mostly highway) and I get 21-22

Fri - Tue
I fill up and in this pretty even 50/50 Mix... I'll get right 19-20 (Gauge reads 18.8 right now), but there is always tomorrow!

Around town... I Granny it mostly. On the highway...80
9or so) is the normal cruising speed.

I'm sure I could get better milage on the highway.

For comparison... my 09 Accord i4 EX-L had almost the same fill up schedule...almost. I am filling up 1-2 tanks more per month on the Genesis than I did on the Accord...
 
My recollection is that geo23 had "Drives a Hyundai Genesis 4.6 V8 Tau Sedan" displayed when he made his first post, so maybe he already bought the car before he started this thread.
 
I honestly couldnt drive a car an pay for something I dont like
That line speaks volumes.

You COULDN'T drive a car you don't like.

As my father used to say, spare us the drama. If I held a loaded gun to your head and said, "Drive this 8-year-old Prius until you get to be on a first-name basis with your mechanic, or I will blow your brains out," I think you'd find you COULD drive that car.

You just don't WANT to, which is not at all the same thing.

You want to drive a big luxury car, and you think you can afford it, just as long as absolutely nothing goes wrong in your life. The problem is, something ALWAYS goes wrong in life - you lose a job, the roof on the duplex you said you own needs to be replaced, your tenant trashes the place and skips out on the back rent and you have to pay thousands of dollars just to make the place rentable again, or, God forbid, you or your wife or your kid run into some horrible medical expenses (you DO have good health insurance with low deductible, right?).

Want to learn how fast life can bitch-slap you? Talk with anyone who bought all the house they could barely afford ten years ago, when prices were going up up up, and then ran into one of life's unexpected reality-check sessions, like a spouse's job loss. Before they knew it, their lovely 5-bedroom house with the 2-1/2 car garage was in mortgage foreclosure and their credit rating was shot to hell.

If you're looking at a car and figuring, "Yeah, I can make these payments, as long as nothing goes wrong," you're looking at the wrong car.

You titled this thread, "sell me lol." It sounds to me like you've already sold yourself, and you just want everyone here to tell you it's a wise move. Since you're not getting that, and you claimed to be open-minded about this in your OP, I suggest you re-think this, before you find yourself saying, a year or two down the road, "God damn it, another ckufing learning experience..."
 
I say let him make the choice whether its the right car for him or not.
Are there likely better options given his financial situation, most likely.

However, I don't think any of us can say we haven't bought something we really wanted against our better judgement.

If he wants a luxury car that vintage with a v8 in that price range, his options are limited.

Let him live and learn.

I bought my 2013 Rspec new last may. It was the first new car I have ever bought. I drove many crappy used cars over the years. I built up to decent used cars (camrys). Finally, now that I am in a better off financial state (ie no debt other than mortgage), I bought the Rspec. Could I have purchased a BMW M5, or a E63, sure, but I couldn't comfortably afford the payment along with my mortgage, the insurance, fuel, and also have money to still buy other toys with.
I am only 36.
 
I say let him make the choice whether its the right car for him or not.
He posted here asking for advice.

Are there likely better options given his financial situation, most likely.
No kidding.

However, I don't think any of us can say we haven't bought something we really wanted against our better judgment.
Not me, not for that amount of money.

Let him live and learn.
The idea is to learn from the wisdom and mistakes of others so we don't have to make the same mistakes ourselves. Otherwise, we would all be back in the stone age and stay there forever.

I bought my 2013 Rspec new last may. It was the first new car I have ever bought. I drove many crappy used cars over the years. I built up to decent used cars (camrys). Finally, now that I am in a better off financial state (ie no debt other than mortgage), I bought the Rspec. Could I have purchased a BMW M5, or a E63, sure, but I couldn't comfortably afford the payment along with my mortgage, the insurance, fuel, and also have money to still buy other toys with.
I am only 36.
36 years old is quite a bit different than 23 years old. I don't know about you, but my financial situation between ages 23 and 36 was vastly different.

I would recommend that the OP watch the Suze Orman show about 5 times before making any more financial decisions. Even if the decision has been made, he should still watch the show for his future decisions.
http://suzeorman.com/the-suze-orman-show/
 
He posted here asking for advice.


No kidding.


Not me, not for that amount of money.


The idea is to learn from the wisdom and mistakes of others so we don't have to make the same mistakes ourselves. Otherwise, we would all be back in the stone age and stay there forever.


36 years old is quite a bit different than 23 years old. I don't know about you, but my financial situation between ages 23 and 36 was vastly different.

I would recommend that the OP watch the Suze Orman show about 5 times before making any more financial decisions. Even if the decision has been made, he should still watch the show for his future decisions.
http://suzeorman.com/the-suze-orman-show/

I am night and day different than at 23. I had 30k in student loan debt, 10k in credit cards, and drove a 1993 ford aerostar that had a leaky roof, no AC and 200k miles. I graduated college, got a good job, paid off all the loans and credit cards, havent carried a balance in 6 years, and now drive a new Rspec.

All through college I listened to Clark Howard. Dave Ramsey is also a good one for money advice.
 
I drove many crappy used cars over the years.
Heh. Have a look at the first four cars in my history below. You might think the Datsun would have been half decent, and it was, until it blew a head gasket.

And those were all NEW cars.

Yeah, go ahead, buy a 6-model-year-old car with 100,000 miles on it that you can barely afford. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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