Since the Dunlops are so horrible in snow.......

[Cut-Throat]

Well then listen up. I wanted the Contis but they were BO so I settled for the Serenities. I can compare both since I have the continentals (same models as I linked to) on my Mercedes SL and the Serenities on the Genesis. For ride comfort and noise level, Conti all the way. Not saying the Serenities are bad, just the Contis are better. You also asked about a good performer in snow for an all season. Contis are top rated and the Serenities are poorly rated. If I had to do it again, I would wait for the Continentals to be out of BO. I have dedicated winter tires for winter but then again I live in Montreal, Canada.

I actually tried to get the Contis back in February this year from my dealer and tirerack and they were back ordered with no date of ship predicted. Tire Rack suggested the Serenities. They are still on back order at Tire Rack and my dealer cannot get them. I am about to to take a long trip to Florida, so I am putting the Serenities on this morning. If the dealer had the Contis, I probably would try them. The Contis are much cheaper as well. This tire may not be available at all anymore.

I have owned the Serenities on my Lexus GS350 since February and they are very nice!

 

[MHT]

I actually tried to get the Contis back in February this year from my dealer and tirerack and they were back ordered with no date of ship predicted. Tire Rack suggested the Serenities. They are still on back order at Tire Rack and my dealer cannot get them. I am about to to take a long trip to Florida, so I am putting the Serenities on this morning. If the dealer had the Contis, I probably would try them. The Contis are much cheaper as well. This tire may not be available at all anymore.

I have owned the Serenities on my Lexus GS350 since February and they are very nice!

I guess I was lucky I was able to get the Contis in May 2010. I too was told by a couple of tire dealers that they were on back order but found a dealer that just happen to have one set of 235-50-18 in stock. From what I have heard a great demand for the tire as put some sizes on back order again and the tire should be available soon.

 

[OldSpice]

The Michelin Sport A/S is a nice tire but for some the only draw back is it is directional tire that can only be rotated front to rear and you have to be careful that they are not rotated any other way. Some people may not see this as a problem and that is ok.

MHT, Are you insinuating Cut-Throat does not understand the concept of a “Directional Tire"? I could see the problem if my spare tire was directional

 

[MHT]

MHT, Are you insinuating Cut-Throat does not understand the concept of a “Directional Tire"? I could see the problem if my spare tire was directional

NO! I was not, I was only alerting those who might be interested in the tire to the fact that it is an Directional Tire. The problem is when you go in to have them rotated and they are not rotated properly. If you have to replace a tire they must be replaced in pairs . I am not insinuating anything and I hope OldSpice did not take it that way.

 

[OldSpice]

No, I was kidding, Cut-throat can take it he has thick skin

 

[MHT]

No, I was kidding, Cut-throat can take it he has thick skin

OK..............................

 

[dg_moore]

I think these would be the best all season tire, especially in the winter

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hoosier&tireModel=A6

Put on a set of these puppies and you'll be good to go:
http://tinyurl.com/27y7p3e

 

[scottdk]

Put on a set of these puppies and you'll be good to go:
http://tinyurl.com/27y7p3e

These are actually what I'm runnin' on the Genesis in the summer

 

[garddog32]

I put the Continental ExtreameWinterContact tires on my car (they are currently rated #1 by TireRack for winter tires). I also went down to the 17" wheels (Elbrus I04). I highly recommend these tires for anyone living in the snow belt. We've recently had a couple of significant snow falls here in Wisconsin, and the tires performed great. However, they do ride rougher and louder than the OEM tires. Also, they are not the best on clear roads. I can easily get the traction control to kick in just by punching the gas. Bottom line, if you battle snow on a daily/weekly basis... I definitely recommend the Continentals. If you're not in the snow belt and only get snow on rare occasions, then this tire isn't for you.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...utoModClar=4.6&snowSortCode=20418&sortSize=17

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...&autoModClar=4.6&tire=255TR7EWCXL&qty_front=4

 

[dg_moore]

These are actually what I'm runnin' on the Genesis in the summer

They're great for plowing and cultivating

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[Cut-Throat]

I put the Continental ExtreameWinterContact tires on my car (they are currently rated #1 by TireRack for winter tires). I also went down to the 17" wheels (Elbrus I04). I highly recommend these tires for anyone living in the snow belt. We've recently had a couple of significant snow falls here in Wisconsin, and the tires performed great. However, they do ride rougher and louder than the OEM tires. Also, they are not the best on clear roads. I can easily get the traction control to kick in just by punching the gas. Bottom line, if you battle snow on a daily/weekly basis... I definitely recommend the Continentals. If you're not in the snow belt and only get snow on rare occasions, then this tire isn't for you.

What was your thinking in going to the 17 inch wheel?

Also it looks like the Michelin X-Ice Xi2(Studless Ice & Snow) is now number 1 in this category at tirerack. (Surveys not the Tests

I am surprised that people just seem to gravitate towards the Bridgestone Blizzaks instead of these Studless Ice and Snow tires????

 

[dg_moore]

What was your thinking in going to the 17 inch wheel?

Also it looks like the Michelin X-Ice Xi2(Studless Ice & Snow) is now number 1 in this category at tirerack.

I am surprised that people just seem to gravitate towards the Bridgestone Blizzaks instead of these Studless Ice and Snow tires????

I bought Blizzaks based on reviews, plus first hand observation. I've been using snow tires of one variety or another since the mid-1950's and the Blizzak has the most aggressive tread pattern I've ever seen. I put a set on my 3.8, and also on my wife's Infiniti G35 Coupe. We had our first snow this morning - not enough to amount to much but enough to test the Blizzak's traction - outstanding on both cars: neither of us spun a tire. They are a little noisy on dry roads, but hey - they're snow tires: what would you expect?

 

[Cut-Throat]

Well, I got the Bridgestone Serenities installed today and it made a world of a difference on the ice and snow. This will be a better tire to get me to Florida in a couple weeks.

If I ever end up spending the winter again up north in snow country, I will opt for the Blizzaks or another Set of snow tires.

 

[UIUC]

it looks like the Michelin X-Ice Xi2(Studless Ice & Snow) is now number 1 in this category at tirerack. (Surveys not the Tests

I am surprised that people just seem to gravitate towards the Bridgestone Blizzaks instead of these Studless Ice and Snow tires????
__________________I have the Michelins and after two bad winter storms in a row I can assure all that they are excellent on ice and snow. But they are somewhat noisy on dry pavement. The manual says one should inflate winter tires 4 psi higher than standard recommended 33psi. What are you all inflating to?

 

[Gurkha]

The manual says one should inflate winter tires 4 psi higher than standard recommended 33psi. What are you all inflating to?

As a new Genesis Owner, I was going through the manual and noticed that line about the 4 psi more. I have not noticed that in any other owners manual (increased air pressure for snow tires). Anyone care to explain the theory behind that?

 

[TEF]

The major reason why I continue to use Blizzaks is that they remain a known quantity. In snowbelt areas one tends to buy a set of snows with each new car or carries a set over from a previous vehicle (should they fit). Since they are on a car for less than six months/year, tires last four to five years and, during that period, one doesn't think about buying new ones no matter how well they may have tested by Tirerack. When it's time at last for new snows, the old ones always seemed to have worked so well, why risk one's money on another brand. Moreover, while Blizzarks might not be the very best tested each year, typically they rank among the best, so why not go with a proven product? I am on my fifth set of Blizzaks and have never encountered vibaration, noise or a failure of any type which is more than I can say for Dunlops and Michelins summer tires.

 

[Midnightsun]

Well, I got the Bridgestone Serenities installed today and it made a world of a difference on the ice and snow. This will be a better tire to get me to Florida in a couple weeks.

If I ever end up spending the winter again up north in snow country, I will opt for the Blizzaks or another Set of snow tires.

When the time comes may I suggest you look into the Continental Extreme Winter Contact in a 17". I have put on new 17" wheels and have mounted these http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...TR7EWCXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Here is a real world, real conditions test. Either the Blizzak or the Conti seem like an excellent chioce. Cannot figure out why in the real world test the conti beats them all but at the end the still rate the Blizzak as #1? Regardless, I figure I drive in the real world and not on our local hockey rink. http://www.tirerack.com/videos/index.jsp?video=46

A winter tire is always noisier than a 4 seasons or dedicated summer simply because of the tread pattern. I was shocked at the quietness of these winters. Believe it or not the are more quiet than my Serenities!

 

[Midnightsun]

As a new Genesis Owner, I was going through the manual and noticed that line about the 4 psi more. I have not noticed that in any other owners manual (increased air pressure for snow tires). Anyone care to explain the theory behind that?

I am almost sure it has to do with the TPMS. I have owned a couple of TPMS vehicles here in Canada and if you do not inflate about 4 psi over for winter, the cold will set of the darn warning every time on a colder morning such as -15. Even at 4 psi over if we get down to 35 below it will still set it off. Increasing the pressure prevents this from happening since now it will register above warning pressure on very cold morning. TPMS is not a good idea in colder climates as it makes you run over inflated 98% of the time. In Canada the Genesis or any other Hyndai for that matter, do not come with TPMS as it is more trouble than it is worth. Unfortunately in the States the famous Firestone tire blowout rollover deal made TPMS law in all new vehicles sold in the USA.

We are so technically advanced, I do not see why they cannot correlate exterior temps into the TPMS reading. This way the puter could just say "Hmmm tire pressure is slightly low but then again it's 30 below so the lower pressure is normal and therefor I will not send a signal." Would make a good system perfect for all conditions.

 

[Midnightsun]

As a new Genesis Owner, I was going through the manual and noticed that line about the 4 psi more. I have not noticed that in any other owners manual (increased air pressure for snow tires). Anyone care to explain the theory behind that?

What section as I would like to see if they have this blurb in the Canadian manual? This would almost confirm if it is TPMS related or not. If it is supposed to be in section 5 "Driving your vehicle" there is no mention of it under sub section snow tires.

 

[dg_moore]

...Cannot figure out why in the real world test the conti beats them all but at the end the still rate the Blizzak as #1? ...

+1 - this makes no sense to me either. The Blizzaks seem to trail in each broad test category, yet they get rated on top. .