Since the Dunlops are so horrible in snow.......

[Gurkha]

What section as I would like to see if they have this blurb in the Canadian manual? This would almost confirm if it is TPMS related or not. If it is supposed to be in section 5 "Driving your vehicle" there is no mention of it under sub section snow tires.

This IS from the Canadian manual, page 7-42:
"Snow tires should carry 4 psi (28kPa) more air pressure than the pressure recommended for the standard tires on the tire label on the driver's side of the center pillar, or up to the maximum pressure shown on the tire sidewall, whichever is less."

Since we both know that Canadian cars (at least my V6 Premium) do not have TPMS, I don't know why it's mentioned.

 

[Midnightsun]

This IS from the Canadian manual, page 7-42:
"Snow tires should carry 4 psi (28kPa) more air pressure than the pressure recommended for the standard tires on the tire label on the driver's side of the center pillar, or up to the maximum pressure shown on the tire sidewall, whichever is less."

Since we both know that Canadian cars (at least my V6 Premium) do not have TPMS, I don't know why it's mentioned.

Talk about strange. I have been driving for 36 years and never heard of this. Even called my good friend who has a tire shop and he never heard of it either. Probably in the Canadian manual because they omitted to remove it. Regardless, neither good nor common practice.

Here is what Tire Rack says. http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=121

 

[QCTLG]

According to The Statistical weather in Montreal...

Montreal's Summers average high temperatures is 26°C (79°F) and low of 16°C (61°F),
Montreal's Winters average high temperature of -5°C (23°F) and lows of -13°C (9°F).

If 10°F = 1PSI loss/gain, then in Montreal adding about 5-7 PSI in Winter would make sense

I'll buy that.

Regards,

 

[rmorgan56]

I put on a set of the Continentals two Saturdays ago, and we've had several snows since. This morning we had 5", with secondaries not cleared at all and just one lane on the freeways.

The car was essentially perfect. In particular, I noted the ability to move in or out of tire paths without any sideways twitch--something my FWD Volvos always did.

As an aside, I didn't get the TPMS sensors and have no regret. The idiot light is not at all distracting, especially since I usually have the hold and cruise lights on--the TPMS warning is just another data point.

--Rick

 

[Midnightsun]

This IS from the Canadian manual, page 7-42:
"Snow tires should carry 4 psi (28kPa) more air pressure than the pressure recommended for the standard tires on the tire label on the driver's side of the center pillar, or up to the maximum pressure shown on the tire sidewall, whichever is less."

Since we both know that Canadian cars (at least my V6 Premium) do not have TPMS, I don't know why it's mentioned.

I checked my manual and you are correct, it's there. Did you notice the other warning? "Do not drive faster than 120km/h (75mph) if your car is equipped with snow tires" Yeah right!!!

 

[Cut-Throat]

I put on a set of the Continentals two Saturdays ago, and we've had several snows since. This morning we had 5", with secondaries not cleared at all and just one lane on the freeways.

The car was essentially perfect. In particular, I noted the ability to move in or out of tire paths without any sideways twitch--something my FWD Volvos always did.

As an aside, I didn't get the TPMS sensors and have no regret. The idiot light is not at all distracting, especially since I usually have the hold and cruise lights on--the TPMS warning is just another data point.

--Rick

Were these the Continental Snow Tires or the All Seasons? Which model? Thanks

 

[rmorgan56]

Hi, CT. They are the Conti ExtremeWinterContact, as recommended by Tire Rack. I got their "recommended package," with Elbrus 17" wheels. Tire Rack's service was exemplary--72 hours from order to delivery. I switched 'em out in the barn since I didn't need the TPMS calibration--gave me an excuse to buy a new torque wrench.

 

[RLREILLY81]

Well it looks like I am going to get a chance today, in about 30 minutes, to see what all the noise is about regarding the poor traction on the Dunlops. It has a covering of snow here in NJ and I am interested to see how the ride goes. I hope they aren't as bad as everyone says, at least not yet. They only have 6700 miles on them and I really don't want to put money out until the tread is gone.

 

[dg_moore]

Just got back from my first drive in real snow with Blizzaks. Cold, light drifting snow over rutted, packed snow base. Never spun a wheel, not a slip or slide. With a heavy foot I could break it loose, but with sensible winter driving technique the Blizzaks are terrific.

 

[Viking]

rmorgan56,

I 2nd the compliments on the Continentals. In Minneapolis here, we have had our share of snow (18" fell last Saturday), but the Genesis is performing much better with the DWSs...

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[Gurkha]

Had the Genny about a week now, but have only driven it for a 2 days, as we've had a fair amount of snow in the past week. Hey I'm a 20+ year FWD owner. lol.
I have Yokohama Ice Guard IG-20's on 17" rims.
They do a good job for the price, with predictable handling.
I have been using Yokohama winters for a number of years on various cars, good bang for the buck, much like the car
Can't wait to try the 18" Dunlops in the spring!

 

[Cut-Throat]

rmorgan56,

I 2nd the compliments on the Continentals. In Minneapolis here, we have had our share of snow (18" fell last Saturday), but the Genesis is performing much better with the DWSs...

It appears that you have completely different tires than rmorgan. He has the Conti Winter Tires and you list the All Season Conti's.

Couple of questions.

1.) Where did you buy them ? In Minnesota? They seem to be on backorder everywhere.

2.) Do you add extra weight in your trunck for better traction or are you driving it empty?

 

[Viking]

Cut-Throat,

Oh, I didn't see that (that he has the winter tires). Yes, I have the all-seasons and no, I don't have any weight in the back.

I ordered the tires through Discount Tire shop in Eden Prairie, but this was back in late August when I ordered my wheels too. The wheels took about 12 weeks to arrive but DT had ordered the tires at the same time so they were sitting at the shop when my wheels arrived.

If you call them they can check to see if they have sets somewhere in their shop network.

 

[SCVDon]

This IS from the Canadian manual, page 7-42:
"Snow tires should carry 4 psi (28kPa) more air pressure than the pressure recommended for the standard tires on the tire label on the driver's side of the center pillar, or up to the maximum pressure shown on the tire sidewall, whichever is less."

Since we both know that Canadian cars (at least my V6 Premium) do not have TPMS, I don't know why it's mentioned.

My guess would be because snow tires often are narrow and may have a lower max. weight limit for the same tire size, so adding pressure would reduce tire wear problems. Just a guess.

 

[dg_moore]

I replaced my Dunlops with Blizzaks - they are performing very well. I was looking for a way to add some weight and recalled that lots of people are using bags of sand, cat litter, salt, etc. Since I don't have a sandbox, or a herd of cats, or a use for huge quantities of salt, it occurred to me that bags of topsoil might be a good choice. They are compact, heavy, and can be used in the yard in the spring. I bought 4 bags - 160 pounds - and placed them above the wheels. I can feel the weight difference - we're expecting snow tonight, so I'll probably be able to see if they make a difference in the snow.