Smart cruise

[Skywagon]

Brake lights? Look at your car in the multifunction display between the tach. and speedo. the tail lights will illuminate on your little car if brakes are being applied due to being too close to a car in front of you. It's hard to see but it does happen. Also, just did 2600 miles in 6 days. The cruise control slows the car considerably while going around long turns at high speeds, one time it slowed me 9 mph on an exit ramp. Also slows the car 2-3 mph when going down hill, hitting a series of bumps or going over a dip. As I first posted there has to be some type of an accelerometer in the car to sense these motions. The best thing about the system is it will save you from rear ending someone if you become distracted. Also the LDWS will shut down in heavy rain and will send you a message it has occurred. Came back on after rain lightened up. One more item, I got a tone, I think it was when I went through 100 mph when I was passing a couple of trucks on a two lane road. That 100 mph mark is easy to break with an R Spec. Got 23.7 mpg cruising at 78 mph. Wonderful car, zero problems even with after market wheels tires and wheel spacers on the it.

 

[Stymer]

I read in car and driver (or road and track?) that the system uses the nav maps to decide appropriate speed in turns, and slows the car down automatically in turns. Certainly notice it in my car, and hate it. But I love the system! Use it all the time, especially in heavy traffic.

 

[Cut-Throat]

I read in car and driver (or road and track?) that the system uses the nav maps to decide appropriate speed in turns, and slows the car down automatically in turns. Certainly notice it in my car, and hate it. But I love the system! Use it all the time, especially in heavy traffic.

I really doubt it.....The car slows down in turns because it sees the guard rail.

 

[mrenadette]

Hi all, looking at buying a used Genesis. Smart cruise would be a great option. What year did it become available? Can't see any mention of it on the 2009 literature.

 

[DeeVa]

I really doubt it.....The car slows down in turns because it sees the guard rail.

It really does slow down, even without a guard rail. I love SCC. I don't see how you can watch your movies/DVD when driving without it.

 

[pilotdane]

You guys have me wondering. I have never noticed my car slowing down for curves but I tend to hit "set", turn up the radio and wake up & get out of the car when I'm home. My commute is rural with no guard rails. I'll have to pay close attention to it on the way home tonight.

 

[Cut-Throat]

It really does slow down, even without a guard rail. I love SCC. I don't see how you can watch your movies/DVD when driving without it.

Mine will only slow down when there is something on the curve to trigger it. Be it guard rails, a tree or bush, retaining wall or embankment........I have been on curves that are free of obstructions and the car will not slow down at all.

 

[Stymer]

Mine will only slow down when there is something on the curve to trigger it. Be it guard rails, a tree or bush, retaining wall or embankment........I have been on curves that are free of obstructions and the car will not slow down at all.

That doesn't make any sense. If it could sense objects that are not moving, it would pound on the brakes thinking that a car ahead was stopped. The system actually does a good job ignoring objects that are not moving, or are of a high differential from your speed. Two examples: 1. if you change lanes behind a car that is going faster than you are, the cruise control will not slow you down, instead allowing the car ahead of you to pull away to the selected distance. 2. If you come up on stopped traffic, the cruise control will not apply the brakes as it does when approaching slow traffic. Or if it doesn't, it's after my pucker factor has caused me to apply them myself.

So, if it doesn't identify stopped traffic, it's not going to identify guard rails or bushes or anything else. It slows down from either nav software, or an accelerometer. I was thinking accelerometer until I read that it uses the nav system, though I have some trouble believing that.

Something to try, on a known curve, set the cruise at various speeds and see if it always slows to the same speed. Then on the same curve, try tight and wide lines and see if it slows to the same speed.

 

[Cut-Throat]

That doesn't make any sense. If it could sense objects that are not moving, it would pound on the brakes thinking that a car ahead was stopped.

Sure it makes sense. It senses objects in front of it that are not accelerating. IOW - If the car ahead of you is gaining on you, it will not slow down, but if it is slower than you are (The space between you is getting shorter), it will slow down and apply the brakes if necessary.

 

[pilotdane]

I had to run some errands out in the country after work yesterday and I can say my car does not slow down for turns no matter what. Guardrails, signs and steep banks next to the road and cars approaching on a tight narrow curve made no difference. The car ignores stationary objects and those moving at a closing speed which suggests a car in the opposite lane coming at you.

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[DeeVa]

Maybe another innovation in the 2012 models or maybe your curves aren't sharp enough!

 

[Cut-Throat]

I had to run some errands out in the country after work yesterday and I can say my car does not slow down for turns no matter what. Guardrails, signs and steep banks next to the road and cars approaching on a tight narrow curve made no difference. The car ignores stationary objects and those moving at a closing speed which suggests a car in the opposite lane coming at you.

I can guarantee you that if you have the SCC on and you come upon some traffic that is completely stopped in front of you, the smart cruise WILL slow you down dramatically!

It sounds like you don't have enough experience with the SCC. One day in the country with the SCC does not do it! - I have logged over 10,000 miles with the SCC engaged, so I understand how it works pretty well. It does not slow down on every curve, but it has to lined up properly with an obstruction on the curve, and it does happen now and then.

Also, the reason the car does not slow down with cars coming in the opposite lanes is because those cars are not directly lined up with your car. Log about $5K miles with the SCC engaged and then you'll understand how it works.

 

[nextcar]

btw, does the genesis use laser or radar for the SCC?

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

btw, does the genesis use laser or radar for the SCC?

Radar.

 

[Stymer]

Also, the reason the car does not slow down with cars coming in the opposite lanes is because those cars are not directly lined up with your car. Log about $5K miles with the SCC engaged and then you'll understand how it works.

If you are on a two lane road and are on a curve to the right, any cars coming in the opposite direction are definitely lined up with your car, but the system ignores them because the speed differential is too great. You can tell if the system recognises something because the car icon will show on the SCC display. No icon, nothing registering. I guarantee you, if you have the cruise set at a fast enough speed, you will eventually go around a curve, have the car slow, and have no icon displaying on the screen. It's responding to something other than an object or car on the road.

Either way, this sucks. If I wanted to slow down on the corner, I would have disengaged the SCC.

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

If you are on a two lane road and are on a curve to the right, any cars coming in the opposite direction are definitely lined up with your car, but the system ignores them because the speed differential is too great. You can tell if the system recognises something because the car icon will show on the SCC display. No icon, nothing registering. I guarantee you, if you have the cruise set at a fast enough speed, you will eventually go around a curve, have the car slow, and have no icon displaying on the screen. It's responding to something other than an object or car on the road.

Either way, this sucks. If I wanted to slow down on the corner, I would have disengaged the SCC.

It's a Canadian thing.

 

[pilotdane]

I can guarantee you that if you have the SCC on and you come upon some traffic that is completely stopped in front of you, the smart cruise WILL slow you down dramatically!

So, what you are saying is that our Genesis are equipped with a collision avoidance system?

If the cruise control is locked onto the car in front and they suddenly stop, the Genesis certainly stops. Driving along in cruise control and coming upon a stationary object my car has thus far never applied the brakes.

It would be a great safety feature if it had it. Hyundai might have some form of pre-collision braking but does not promote it for legal reasons. Maybe it only applies the brakes when a collision is absolutely unavoidable. Something none of us want to test in the real world.

 

[daveltd]

So, what you are saying is that our Genesis are equipped with a collision avoidance system?

If the cruise control is locked onto the car in front and they suddenly stop, the Genesis certainly stops. Driving along in cruise control and coming upon a stationary object my car has thus far never applied the brakes.

It would be a great safety feature if it had it. Hyundai might have some form of pre-collision braking but does not promote it for legal reasons. Maybe it only applies the brakes when a collision is absolutely unavoidable. Something none of us want to test in the real world.

Pilotdane

I have put the smart cruise to the test twice and stopped the car with over 2 feet of space between both cars. The Genesis does brake hard but slowed my car to a dead stop. This was an experience I wanted to try as there other posts by member who had tried the same experiment. The second time I tried I had my wife with me as she didn't believe me but was shocked when she saw the results.

Also did a 2000 mile trip in late August all mainly highway driving. So I set the cruise for the speed I wanted and reduced dash display down to one bar and was assured I would not run up on a slow car ahead.

The one thing I don't like is when engaged and you leave the display at 3 bars it slows the car too soon for my liking.

Dave

 

[Stymer]

Pilotdane

I have put the smart cruise to the test twice and stopped the car with over 2 feet of space between both cars. The Genesis does brake hard but slowed my car to a dead stop. This was an experience I wanted to try as there other posts by member who had tried the same experiment. The second time I tried I had my wife with me as she didn't believe me but was shocked when she saw the results.

Also did a 2000 mile trip in late August all mainly highway driving. So I set the cruise for the speed I wanted and reduced dash display down to one bar and was assured I would not run up on a slow car ahead.

The one thing I don't like is when engaged and you leave the display at 3 bars it slows the car too soon for my liking.

Dave

Are you saying that if our cars approach stopped traffic, the cruise control system will apply the brakes and stop the car? If that's true, I guess I've not had the guts to wait that long before 'stepping in'. I know it works with slow moving traffic, but wasn't sure about stopped traffic.

 

[Shawn33]

Are you saying that if our cars approach stopped traffic, the cruise control system will apply the brakes and stop the car? If that's true, I guess I've not had the guts to wait that long before 'stepping in'. I know it works with slow moving traffic, but wasn't sure about stopped traffic.

Yes, I believe that's what he's saying and I would tend to agree. The car does seem to do a good job of detecting a stopped car verus one moving in front of you. I agree with you that I would slow down earlier then the Genesis does under normal conditions. But thats the great thing about the system is that you still can. The car will only do it if you haven't.

On a related not, 2 times now I have seen a warning of some sort pop up on the center display. Both times it's been cars waiting to turn in front of me that I have run up behind. There was space on the shoulder so I didn't slow down too much as there were breaks in the traffic for the waiting car to turn but they chose not to. So I got closer to them then normal before sliding over to the shoulder to pass. The alert pops up but as soon as I'm over on the shoulder it goes away so I see it out of my peripheral vision but haven't gotten a close look at it yet.

Shawn