Snow Snow and more Snow

[Viking]

Cut-Throat is right, the stock Dunlops are terrible in the snow no matter the skill of the driver.

I grew up in MN and have never had problems in the snow until last winter when I got stuck on the street in front of my house. Yes the street in front of my house. I don't mean stuck in a snow bank - I mean right in the middle of the street. Couldn't go forward or reverse, with the ESC on or off, wheels straight ahead. I did not have any added weight in the trunk but still..

This year is much different. I am really liking the new Conti DWSs; they perform great and I have not had any problems - despite all of the snow and ice this year.

 

[Manofknobs]

Viking, with the Conti DWS doing so well in the snow do you think there is any need for dedicated snow tires? I still have the Dunlops and yes they are terrible. I plan on putting on the Conti's as soon as they are back in stock.

 

[scottdk]

Offhandedly stating that RWD cars are useless in snow is unfounded. All vehicles regardless of the drive, will get stuck in deep snow, but less so with modern snow tires. Relative to the cost of a set of tires and wheels, parking a $30K plus Genesis for half the year seems an expensive option. Especially, if one factors in the operating cost of a second vehicle to get around. If you live in a place with snowy winters, invest in a set of decent winter tires and you'll be surprised.

I store the car in the winter because I think of the Genesis as a "fun" car.....for pleasure. I don't get much pleasure with a car like the Genesis in the winter nor fun, and winter is torchure on a car especially the finish. Just after a few years of driving a car year round in MN, it is noticable on the paint finish.

I really enjoy having two cars, and yes my other car I drive in the winter is winter tire equipped and also drive it to work. So essentially, it's actually my main vehicle. I really only drive the Genesis when it's time for fun, going out with the friends, road trips etc. Keeps a lot of miles down on the car and I'll have the car paid off in 2.5 years with only around 40,000 miles on the car when it's paid off.

My cost of my other car (besides the wifes Sonata) was $450 with 56,600 miles when I bought it a year and a half ago. I've done a few repairs myself and tranny flush, coolant flush etc., so i have about $1,200 into the car that will last probably another 100,000 miles. Cheap transportation IMO. My last winter car was a 1990 Subaru Legacy LS (FWD) and I spent about $2,000 for the car with all repairs etc. and drove it 60,000 miles, and sold it for $1,500 bucks. Buying a brand new car is a luxury, and is not cost efficient. I love cars, so I have a Genesis, and treat it like a second wife

 

[Adventuress]

If I can get it out of the driveway I drive it. I love my Nokain snow tires!

 

[Gambler]

We finally got some snow here and I hopped in the Genesis today to try it out. I thought for a second I wasn't going to make it out of the parking lot. Lots of slippage with the stock tires. I wanted to upgrade to the Continental all seasons, but they are backordered everywhere. I guess I'm going to have to deal with it for this winter.

 

[RLREILLY81]

We finally got some snow here and I hopped in the Genesis today to try it out. I thought for a second I wasn't going to make it out of the parking lot. Lots of slippage with the stock tires. I wanted to upgrade to the Continental all seasons, but they are backordered everywhere. I guess I'm going to have to deal with it for this winter.

You and I both. I am going to wait to do a combo wheel and tire purchase. I have stock 17" and just learned they are only 6.5" wide. So the width and the stock tires are horrid. I want 18"x8" with the Continental DWS (???) the ones with the 65K mile warranty.

 

[Viking]

Manofknobs: My experience with the Continentals DWSs so far is that I won't need dedicated snow tires.

ScottDK: Agree with you - I would love to have two cars and keep the Genesis just for the summer (not so much for the winter handling as much as to keep the car looking good for years).

Rlreilly81: I agree. Although I had the 18" stocks, I went with a slightly wider wheel (8" vs. the OEM 7.5"). I kind of wish I had gone with 19" but the probable rougher ride was too much of a risk for me..

 

[ilovemygenesis]

I just went through my own episode in the snow today, i have the blizzak tires and for the most part they did well until i got to my driveway,i got stuck and my wife and i had to shovel my car out. I just got the tires put on a couple of weeks ago before the major storm on the east coast, bought them last year and I'm glad i did

 

[nearwater]

You and I both. I am going to wait to do a combo wheel and tire purchase. I have stock 17" and just learned they are only 6.5" wide. So the width and the stock tires are horrid. I want 18"x8" with the Continental DWS (???) the ones with the 65K mile warranty.

Wider width tires perform worse in snow.
You're supposed to get narrower tires for better traction when purchasing snow tires.

Dan

 

[nearwater]

Hard to do - I don't have either of the two Genesis's anymore.

To tow the Genesis, you must remove a small panel on the front (or rear) bumper cover, then install a large threaded Eye Bolt from the trunk spare tire storage compartment into a threaded receptacle built into the bumper/frame. Then the tow strap/cable hook catches the Eye. Slick design, really, but one I wasn't at all familiar with until the tow truck arrived after about a 5 hour wait. Had I did as my GF suggested and read the owners manual, I could have been rolling 4 or 5 times, without having paid the towing fee.

Moral of the story: I STILL don't know it all.

Lots of modern cars(manufactured within the past 5 or so years) have the tow hook slots in the bumper behind the bumper cover. Especially with the ground clearance getting lower with modern vehicle designs.

Dan

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[RLREILLY81]

Wider width tires perform worse in snow.
You're supposed to get narrower tires for better traction when purchasing snow tires.

Dan

Then maybe I should get some bicycle tires on it. I have 6.5" wide now and they are atrocious. I didn't think they made narrower tires unless I went with a smaller wheel.

 

[nearwater]

Then maybe I should get some bicycle tires on it. I have 6.5" wide now and they are atrocious. I didn't think they made narrower tires unless I went with a smaller wheel.

Narrower tires cut through the snow better, while the wide tires 'float' on the snow.
See how the snow rally cars use 'bicycle tires'.

Dan

pic borrowed from motorsport.com

 

[Gambler]

I don't get it. That car has the narrow tires, but is floating way more than my wide tires do.

Narrower tires cut through the snow better, while the wide tires 'float' on the snow.
See how the snow rally cars use 'bicycle tires'.

Dan

 

[OldSpice]

I don't get it. That car has the narrow tires, but is floating way more than my wide tires do.

I think that car has air shocks

 

[dg_moore]

Judging from the way he drives, I'd say he had four flats and is now running donut spares

 

[rickfen]

I don't get it. That car has the narrow tires, but is floating way more than my wide tires do.

It's cause the Subaru is lighter than the Genesis

 

[Gambler]

I got my Blizzaks/18" rims from TireRack and installed them Saturday. Tried them out this morning in the Ice/Slush we got last night. It really does make a world of difference from the stock tires. It transformed the car from being unbearable in the snow to almost as good as the Tahoe (in RWD mode). Well worth the investment!

 

[OldSpice]

We are getting 1" of ice on top of snow today.
This is really starting to suck here

 

[nearwater]

It started to rain here as well since last night, and the roads were slippery as hell.
But the ESC did an awesome job keeping the tail from kicking out.

Dan

 

[bigel]

Snow, then ice, now rain here in central NJ...new GY Eagle GTs working like a charm! Have not had a care while driving in this cruddy weather since replacing the 'done-slops'!