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Soft Paint! (detailing thread)

leechri3

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Watch Pan the Organizer on YouTube's Video where he Ceramic coats his own BMW. He does a good job. Take some of it with a grain of salt but he offers a good overview.
End result is worth it
Good Luck.
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Here's the link. I also have a Himalayan Gray G70 and I've only done touchless washes, using a power washer w/ foam cannon and a turbo car dryer. Two coats of ceramic sealant (24 hours apart) and then a final spray wax seemed to help.
 
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CVODON

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In response to post above, Why did you use ceramic sealant if you intended to wax the car? If you used a SI02 Sealant you were good to go for 3 - 6 months, depending on what product you bought. You then applied a wax product on top of this long term sealant. Wax products are basically a month long product. Do some research, check with the sealant company and you will find wax is a thing of the past and not needed on any modern SI02 Sealant for any reason.
Also you have to touch a car occassionally and wash it with a mitt, I hand wash mine at least once if not twice a week, foam soap will soften the dirt and make the finish slick so hand washing is less abrasive but it, The Foam, will not clean the car by itself. It is a prelude to proper cleaning only.
 

leechri3

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In response to post above, Why did you use ceramic sealant if you intended to wax the car? If you used a SI02 Sealant you were good to go for 3 - 6 months, depending on what product you bought. You then applied a wax product on top of this long term sealant. Wax products are basically a month long product. Do some research, check with the sealant company and you will find wax is a thing of the past and not needed on any modern SI02 Sealant for any reason.
Also you have to touch a car occassionally and wash it with a mitt, I hand wash mine at least once if not twice a week, foam soap will soften the dirt and make the finish slick so hand washing is less abrasive but it, The Foam, will not clean the car by itself. It is a prelude to proper cleaning only.
Agree with you about wax really not doing anything in regards to protection or an additional hydrophobic shield, but I do find adding the spray wax gives the car a better shine, especially because I have a darker color vehicle. As for the Foam wash, I find it works well as just a maintenance wash every weekend and then use the 2 bucket method with a grit guard and mitt once every 4 weeks or so. But I live in L.A. so never have to worry about snow/salt and hardly rains. The biggest pain is the black dust that builds up, which is easily washed away by the pressure washer.
 

robscar

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Thanks for all the responses. I have watched some of Pan the Organizer videos, so I will look for this one.
After the car was delivered I did the two bucket wash, clay bar, correcting polish, machine polish, fine machine wax, and 2 coats of paint sealant. All Adams products. I like the paint sealant as it gives a nice soft shine and six to eight months protection.
I think I would like to do the next level of protection, but what truly holds me back is that I enjoy performing the detailing. Plus, knowing the amount of orange peal on these vehicles, it would drive me nuts if I did not try and address correcting the issue before doing the ceramic coating.
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CVODON

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leechri3
You just need to find a Sealant that leaves a shine that suits you. The spray wax is just wasting your time. I know you can get small samples from some of the companies. Surely someone makes a sealant that will give you the shine you desire. I, as mentioned, use CarPro Reload which is 5% SI02 Sealant. I use it on top of the Ceramic but it can be a stand alone product as well. Has VERY high gloss, may save you a step and a little time.
 

MotownMJ

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G70 3.3T, Black Forest Green. The weather was horrible when I bought my car...Michigan...so did not see the damage from bird droppings. Dealer detailerl tried to remove the damage to no avail...so I had Xpel professionally installed on hood and front clip to hide it. 3rd car I have done with this shop...So anyway, I pick up the car and the first thing he says to me is, "You know, the paint on this car is not very good. The early Tesla Model 3's were this bad, but this has a lot of flaws, thin areas. Your G80 was not like this, so don't know what's the deal here..."
Hmmm...
 

pulsar

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G70 3.3T, Black Forest Green. The weather was horrible when I bought my car...Michigan...so did not see the damage from bird droppings. Dealer detailerl tried to remove the damage to no avail...so I had Xpel professionally installed on hood and front clip to hide it. 3rd car I have done with this shop...So anyway, I pick up the car and the first thing he says to me is, "You know, the paint on this car is not very good. The early Tesla Model 3's were this bad, but this has a lot of flaws, thin areas. Your G80 was not like this, so don't know what's the deal here..."
Hmmm...
Thin areas would be strange since factories use robots to paint cars. Film thickness should be consistent unless someone already buffed and polished the paint enough prior to create thin areas. Your dealer detailer may have caused that issue. I try to never use anything harsh on the paint when buffing. A swirl remover is very mild normally so removal of clear coat should be minimal. A polish compound or scratch remover is more heavy duty but also removes more clear coat.
 

Ernie3647

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G70 3.3T, Black Forest Green. The weather was horrible when I bought my car...Michigan...so did not see the damage from bird droppings. Dealer detailerl tried to remove the damage to no avail...so I had Xpel professionally installed on hood and front clip to hide it. 3rd car I have done with this shop...So anyway, I pick up the car and the first thing he says to me is, "You know, the paint on this car is not very good. The early Tesla Model 3's were this bad, but this has a lot of flaws, thin areas. Your G80 was not like this, so don't know what's the deal here..."
Hmmm...
I actually got the opposite message from my installer on my last warp for my G70. He complemented the paint job on the car. If what you say is so It appears there are inconstancy’s in the line.
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Toddasaurus

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^Agreed with above. I've yet to notice any soft, or thin paint/clear coat on mine. I went over all of it inch by inch as well when I applied my ceramic coating.
 
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